dell2006
Aug 4 2009, 02:26 PM
After seeing the old police accademy a few times, good laughs for familys, Was really let down after watching the new stunt show!!!
There wasn't even a real story line. and can see a lot of running costs to keep this show running.
The effects weren't even in time, Eg gun shots hiting targets an delayed reaction.
Pure Crap!!!
Bring back the old show anyday!!!!!!!
Gazza
Aug 4 2009, 06:36 PM
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The effects weren't even in time, Eg gun shots hiting targets an delayed reaction.
That one is manually set off by the guys in the booth, so it comes down to how well they do it on the day.
djrappa
Aug 4 2009, 07:08 PM
QUOTE (Gazza @ Aug 4 2009, 06:36 PM)

That one is manually set off by the guys in the booth, so it comes down to how well they do it on the day.
Yeah and that should either be perfect every time or get a new operator or don't have in manual.
When we put in effects you have everything run from show control and the only human action is a safety enable. That way you achieve repeatability and accuracy.
AlexB
Aug 5 2009, 06:44 AM
Its so funny so see that something in AOS has money thrown at it to make it perfect, and yet the same standards don't apply down the road.
I mean - who'd have thought that the profits would be so obviously higher out of AOS?
Mad Hatter
Aug 27 2009, 12:24 PM
from what ive heard, its not so much money thats an issue, its just poor decisions along the way which havent helped. Underestimated the wear and tear on the vehicles is a big one, if they had a chance again they probably would have gone with full tube frame chassis like the stunt car built in reverse. Would have made repairs much easier and could have swapped out the drivetrain to something else that will cope a little better. It really is a show that could have 3 or 4 sessions a day in peak periods because its over so quickly, but the reliability suffers greatly when you amp up the amount of drive time.
Its a trade off, the more indepth the show is, the longer the cars are out on the track which increases the chances of a failure. Police academy was such a good runner because the human element took just as much (if not more actually) stage time as any vehicles part of the show.
In saying that though, the driving quality is excellent. Some really hard stunts performed, made it seem effortless. Wonder how many cars were binned during pre production though
brissy phil
Oct 20 2009, 12:52 AM
QUOTE (Mad Hatter @ Aug 27 2009, 12:24 PM)

from what ive heard, its not so much money thats an issue, its just poor decisions along the way which havent helped. Underestimated the wear and tear on the vehicles is a big one, if they had a chance again they probably would have gone with full tube frame chassis like the stunt car built in reverse. Would have made repairs much easier and could have swapped out the drivetrain to something else that will cope a little better. It really is a show that could have 3 or 4 sessions a day in peak periods because its over so quickly, but the reliability suffers greatly when you amp up the amount of drive time.
Its a trade off, the more indepth the show is, the longer the cars are out on the track which increases the chances of a failure. Police academy was such a good runner because the human element took just as much (if not more actually) stage time as any vehicles part of the show.
In saying that though, the driving quality is excellent. Some really hard stunts performed, made it seem effortless. Wonder how many cars were binned during pre production though

This attraction is a copy of this one from Hollywood Studios
http://disneyworld.disney.go.com/parks/hol...eme-stunt-show/But the Hollywood Studios one is MASSIVE compared. The grand stand for the audience is around 3 times the size, the stunt area is easily twice the size in every direction and there is a water mote between the crowd and the stunt area which includes jet skies and boats in the show.
DonjaiInLA
Oct 20 2009, 07:54 PM
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This attraction is a copy of this one from Hollywood Studios
http://disneyworld.disney.go.com/parks/hol...eme-stunt-show/Oh. my. god. No one has ever made that connection before!
brissy phil
Oct 20 2009, 08:55 PM
QUOTE (DonjaiInLA @ Oct 20 2009, 07:54 PM)

Oh. my. god. No one has ever made that connection before!
Because I am new on here I can't quite tell if you are being sincere or sarcastic... probably the latter :-) Haven't had a chance to read all the different posts yet and catch up...
AlexB
Oct 20 2009, 09:00 PM
Not trying to be narky or anything Brissy phil, but that might be a good idea. it's always good to bone up on a topic that is several pages (and threads) long. Otherwise we end up with the same thing said by many people a week or two apart.
Other than that, Welcome to the forums, and don't mind Don. He's harmless.
summerfun91
Oct 21 2009, 07:00 PM
QUOTE (dell2006 @ Aug 4 2009, 12:26 PM)

After seeing the old police accademy a few times, good laughs for familys, Was really let down after watching the new stunt show!!!
There wasn't even a real story line. and can see a lot of running costs to keep this show running.
The effects weren't even in time, Eg gun shots hiting targets an delayed reaction.
Pure Crap!!!
Bring back the old show anyday!!!!!!!
Actually I though it was good, and a laugh with a great storyline.
Who cares if they are off timing its only a show get over it.
djrappa
Oct 22 2009, 12:57 AM
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Who cares if they are off timing its only a show get over it.
I'm sorry, I'm not normally derogatory but this has to be one of the most stupid things I've ever read... that's not my opinion, that is fact!
kieron5379
Oct 22 2009, 09:27 AM
QUOTE (djrappa @ Oct 22 2009, 12:57 AM)

I'm sorry, I'm not normally derogatory but this has to be one of the most stupid things I've ever read... that's not my opinion, that is fact!
I agree. Why get over it when it's supposed to be a professional show and minor things like that should really be spot on?
If they want to offer a "world class" show (which i don't believe it is anywhere near, but for the sake of the argument i'll say it is), everything should be polished. And i will even give them a month or two to smooth it out but if they can't get something simple like that right, then its a bit hard to just get over it...
djrappa
Oct 23 2009, 12:44 PM
Just remember, I never said anything about their timing, I haven't seen the show in at least 6 months so I would assume it's tight by now, others seem to be suggesting it's not. I never took a swipe at Stunt Driver crew, I just laughed at it being suggested that I would not be able to cue a show.
Just on the comment "what equipment they got given," they didn't get given anything, this show was built in house from the ground up so they didn't "get given" anything. That would be like me complaining at the equipment I have to work with when I specified the equipment in the first place.
The show is very lacking, but that doesn't mean they can only do what they have half baked. I've never had a problem with what the drivers and crew do with the show they are given, my beef with the show is in it's contents, not it's execution, and always has been.
It's the same crew as PASS, and that show was nailed nearly every show, so you can't say bad things about the crew.
Adam
Oct 23 2009, 04:47 PM
QUOTE (dell2006 @ Aug 4 2009, 02:26 PM)

The effects weren't even in time, Eg gun shots hiting targets an delayed reaction.
Does it currently require an operator to press a button at the exact same time that an actor fires a gun?
reanimated35
Oct 23 2009, 08:28 PM
so who did they ditch from the team? i swear there are less drivers now than when it first started
Richard
Oct 25 2009, 10:57 AM
OK, someone saw the show six months ago and they found elements of the show lacking. So then it's their responsibility to pay for admission again to see it now that they've gotten their act together and are actually putting on a decent show?
Sorry but impressions last. The fact that there have been any reports at all from any point in time suggesting that the show is substandard means that the park hasn't done their job correctly.
Forget the "1%" that pick at things and complain. Flip it around and it shouldn't take the 1% that visit the park to the point where they can actively comment the evolution of the show over time to defend the show and tell people they're wrong for thinking the show was a letdown because in their eyes it was when they visited.
Gold Coaster
Oct 25 2009, 11:14 AM
And I was at the show recently and it was substandard then.
Gold Coaster
Oct 25 2009, 01:32 PM
QUOTE (Gold Coaster @ Oct 25 2009, 11:14 AM)

And I was at the show recently and it was substandard then.
No, that doesn't make me hypocritical. I've seen the show once as I wanted to give them some time to get it right. I went in open-minded and came away majorly disappointed.
summerfun91
Oct 25 2009, 04:20 PM
QUOTE (djrappa @ Oct 22 2009, 10:21 PM)

HAHAHAHA
That is so funny what you said, given what I do for a job every day and what company I work for. Oh wow, you're so not getting it are you.
I'm glad you have such low standards, it's people like you that have allowed sub standard product to be accepted over the years for the norm. Funny thing is I know that low budget doesn't mean low standards and I know what the parks are capable of and have done in the past.
Again, just for laughts
My post I posted yesterday (I have changed my username) has disappeared which in my opinion is unfair considering
however i'm just going to re-post.
I don't know you
I don't know what type of job you do or the company you work for, I am not the slightest bit interested ok!
I don't care who works for who, I don't really want to or need to know.
Try guess what company I work for and what I do- That's very much impossible don't you think!
I don't know why i get replies saying how stupid my posts are when we are all entitled to write what we want!
I don't know why my post got deleted and i'm hopeful that this site won't do that again!
summerfun91
Oct 25 2009, 05:49 PM
QUOTE (Swanny @ Oct 25 2009, 02:53 PM)

So, if everyone else thinks that there is something wrong with the show, why is it that that they all have to 'get over it'?
Complain to someone who will actually do something about it. Go to customer services and complain there.
I didn't say get over it completely. However whinging online isn't going to get far!
As for spelling errors this ain't not spelling bee, this isn't no exam. So some of us don't really mind simple spelling or gramatical errors.
cerberus584
Oct 25 2009, 06:33 PM
QUOTE (summerfun91 @ Oct 25 2009, 05:49 PM)

As for spelling errors this ain't not [sic] spelling bee, this isn't no exam (I don't even know when to put the [sic] there). So some of us don't really mind simple spelling or gramatical [sic] errors.
I don't mind simple spelling errors in some circumstances, but not when this is part of the community guidelines:
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Spelling, punctuation and grammar should be correct and proper at all times.
Take the necessary time to properly form your posts, because if they are not up to standard they may be deleted. Many Browsers these days have built-in spell checkers so there is no excuse for not making the effort.
In terms of the show, I agree that while we are not in America, there is no reason that the general public does not deserve a first class show. I am more than prepared (having been involved in several productions) to accept that for the first week or two there may be some teething issues but these should be resolved as soon as possible. I haven't seen the show since about a month after opening so I can't comment on it's present state but when I did see it I was reasonably happy. If you're unimpressed you're more than welcome to contact guest services to voice your opinion, just like every other guest to the parks.
reanimated35
Dec 9 2009, 12:57 AM
Thanks to the SeaViper thread I found this image of Movieworld.
There seems to be the following:
2 x Red Cars
1 x Red car in need of a paint job as it's mostly white
1 x Black car
4 x Unknown presumed black cars (one is just poking out of the shed)
Now that probably means they have kept the other black cars they originally used, but for what purpose? Spares or is there some plan to bring them back sometime?
Mad Hatter
Dec 9 2009, 09:11 AM
there is no way you could get a car repaired and back on track within the time frame of the next show even if you have the most minor of accidents or even most mechancial failures. Got to keep a few cars as spares that can simply be swapped over in the event of something happening, but they could also rotate the cars through service and strip down and rebuild them as per a maintenance schedule. Its not like a ride where they can stay in service for thousands of hours with minimal down time, this particular package is very tough on gearboxes, differentials and even things such as wheel bearings and the like, even the chassis and roll cage structure is prone to mechanical stress. They would to have a service plan that seems them stripped down and inspected along with wear items replaced, could see the car out of use for a number of days before its returned to service.
reanimated35
Dec 9 2009, 02:30 PM
that's true, but what about the stripped down white one? did they have some kind of major accident that required a repaint oh 90% of the car?
I also just noticed what appears to be 2 old style (model-T?) cars just behind the unpainted one. from the PASS?
themeparkgc
Dec 9 2009, 02:49 PM
QUOTE (reanimated35 @ Dec 9 2009, 02:30 PM)

I also just noticed what appears to be 2 old style (model-T?) cars just behind the unpainted one. from the PASS?
Those two cars appear to be the Bonnie & Clyde cars from the left side of main street. If you look
here you can see a different angle and can work out the shape a bit better.
As for the police cars from PASS they appear to be at the northern end of the site behind the Looney Tunes Ride. See
here. It appears that they have kept two and sold the rest.
djrappa
Dec 9 2009, 04:44 PM
Bonnie and Clyde cars are back out now. They were put backstage for halloween.
ShadowXL
Dec 9 2009, 09:37 PM
QUOTE (reanimated35 @ Dec 9 2009, 02:30 PM)

that's true, but what about the stripped down white one? did they have some kind of major accident that required a repaint oh 90% of the car?
That car isn't like that because of an accident.
QUOTE (reanimated35 @ Dec 9 2009, 02:30 PM)

I also just noticed what appears to be 2 old style (model-T?) cars just behind the unpainted one. from the PASS?
They use one during the Batman street show, they might use them at events aswell maybe?
nathanpamenter
Dec 28 2009, 01:51 PM
Finally got around to seeing the show this morning. Had little interest beforehand and after reading the mixed reviews decided it was time to check it out.
Audience interaction parts were funny and clever. It worked really well. The Hollywood producer is a terrible terrible actor.. please cut that part completely. There seems to be no need for it.
The stunts.... cars going round in circles..... It got pretty boring after a while. The last sequence with the flyover worked well.
The audience I was viewing with seemed to enjoy the show. Big cheers etc... but as a repeat attraction I doubt any but the diehard car enthusiasts would give this a second viewing
2/5
shamona
Dec 28 2009, 02:39 PM
QUOTE (nathanpamenter @ Dec 28 2009, 01:51 PM)

Finally got around to seeing the show this morning. Had little interest beforehand and after reading the mixed reviews decided it was time to check it out.
Audience interaction parts were funny and clever. It worked really well. The Hollywood producer is a terrible terrible actor.. please cut that part completely. There seems to be no need for it.
The stunts.... cars going round in circles..... It got pretty boring after a while. The last sequence with the flyover worked well.
The audience I was viewing with seemed to enjoy the show. Big cheers etc... but as a repeat attraction I doubt any but the diehard car enthusiasts would give this a second viewing
2/5
i have seen the show a couple times before i viewed it this morning. I think the cars were going much slower than usual due to the rainfall. Regardless i think the show is crap and would love the PA show back.
Gazza
Dec 28 2009, 08:55 PM
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think the cars were going much slower than usual due to the rainfall.
Indeed, there appears to be a 'slo-mo' version of the show that gets run on wet days. Previously the show would be cancelled in poor weather.
DarkSide
Dec 30 2009, 02:23 AM
Hi Everyone 1st of all Merry Xmas & Happy New Year 2010, Recently i was surfing youtube and i came across the new Stunt Show Like The topic says REAL LET DOWN comparing to french version and american to the australian version, the australian version is a cheap version of all the stunt shows ive seen
French Version - Moteurs Action! Hollywood Stunt Driver
Prt1Prt2Prt3Prt4American Version - Lights, Motors, Action! Extreme Stunt Show
Prt1Prt2Prt3Australian Version - Hollywood Stunt Driver
Prt1Prt2You compare the differences Tell Me Your Oppinions
Wyncenuros
May 9 2010, 06:39 AM
I am interested to see what people's opinions of this show are now that it has had a good time to settle in to the park and the drivers to relax into the new show. There have been some nice comical additions added in which do bring a more human fel into the show. What do others think?
djrappa
May 9 2010, 10:23 AM
Whilst I don't think the show will go down as one of the great all time theme park shows (as PA did) or receieve rave reviews like others such as Waterworld do, I think the show has matured a lot and is now a reputable addition to the park.
The show works MUCH better with the reduced number of cars and the pacing and overall 'feel' to the show has been much improved. I do have to give credit to the Show and Entertainment directors for improving this show so much over time.
I still don't really like how it just screams being a watered down knock off of the Disney show, and I feel it lacks the comedic element that made PA so popular, but that is a conceptual problem, not an executional one.
So in short, yes I like it, change has been good in this case!
Wyncenuros
May 9 2010, 08:33 PM
One thing I was interested to see last weekend is that two more members of the old PA team have joined the Hell Driver team.
I agree DJ it does scream of being a cheaper knock off, but for people like me who cannot afford to see the original and are resigned to watching it on youtube, it does a pretty good job.
I never got to see the show with 5 vehicles however I would say that this would make the set seem a little overcrowded and the feeling of "are they going to hit" would be diminished as there are so many vehicles that you wouldn't really notice if two got close.
The quality of the driving has greatly improved with the policia vehicles almost constantly side by side instead of one behind the other during drinfting, however as I witnessed last weekend, this greatly increases the chances that they will have a fender bender if one suddenly brakes.
I am interested to know if anyone has any knowledge of the frequency that the vehicles are taken out of action for serious services and repairs. I ask as we saw one policia car getting a new window put in while still walking out of the auditorium after a show (under the parking garage) and another getting a dent (from the fender bender) bumped back out, along with the almost constant backfiring of one of the policia cars (literally, flames were shooting over two feet out of the back of the car).
Gazza
May 9 2010, 10:08 PM
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I never got to see the show with 5 vehicles however I would say that this would make the set seem a little overcrowded and the feeling of "are they going to hit" would be diminished as there are so many vehicles that you wouldn't really notice if two got close.
That was pretty much it, it just made it look like a slot car track or a ballet basically, but now you can focus on both cars as they aproach each other and see the near miss.
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