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  1. This came across, and I think I have a fair picture of what you were listening to. I'm really enjoying your coverage, and want to thank you very sincerely for providing this to us. We are very lucky, and I am sure that the majority of folk here will join me in thanking you for doing this.
    8 points
  2. So firstly, a tip to all. When your post is over 2 phone screens long, people generally switch off and don’t read the whole thing... Secondly, a big of an overreaction I feel. I don’t believe anyone was being heartless and diminishing the impact this would have on trained first responders. All they were saying is at least the paramedics expect that one day they will have to see something gruesome and plan for it to some degree. A ride engineer is not going to have any thoughts on their radar they may have to attend to such a thing, so it’s bound to be more shocking. Thats all.
    4 points
  3. Its the start of the process and they usually end up in payouts before very messy, very public court cases. Anyway, fuck all that, why do people automatically assume that medical personel have training that protects them from shocking scenes of injury and death? They have support services in place to counsel them through incidents and have some testing to gauge their state of health, but its not like they are brainwashed, mindless robots and many are still left to suffer in silence while ptsd sneaks up on them and ruins their careers (and sometimes their lives). "Dealing with it" is an unnatural coping mechanism developed in response to trauma. Its actually a mental health issue that people are willing to suffer because of the greater good, not becaused they have training to switch it all off. They are literally willing to suffer damage to their health because they feel they can help others in greater need. Everybody needs to remember that. People are completely heartless when they say things like they are paramedics, nurses or doctors, they should be used to it. Its the same as you saying they are heartless, uncaring machines who are completely unaffected by their work. Nobody knows what someone has or hasnt seen, or just how full the bottle is with all the years or horrible incidents building up before a mental break occurs. Likewise, nobody knows exactly how any of us will respond to any emergency situation until it occurs. It could only take one incident to end your career and you do them a GREAT disservice to make suggestions like its expected of them, completely voiding people of the natural grieving process. So let me make this clear. Your employer has a duty of care to you. Forget the customers or guests, it starts with employees and they are often the first overlooked. Their duty of care is to maintain a safe working environment and not place any employee in a situation of risk that impacts on their health and welbeing. That is law. No matter your position, all the way up the chain to the most dangerous jobs you can think of. Risk management has been performed and safety mechanisms are implemented to make the job safe as possible. So when an employer has been shown to have failed in their duty of care, no matter what is expected of you job title, they are entirely responsible for all outcomes and the care of their employees. What they saw permanently impacted these employees so severely they felt they could no longer work for or maintain their position at dreamworld. Hell, some may not ever return to this type of work again, and dreamworld are entirely responsible for placing them in this position and for what they had to experience. People need to remember they are victims of this tragedy too, not just the poor people who lost their lives. That is the difference between an accident and negligence. If it was all a freak accident and the park had delivered on all their responsibilities, these people would have still experienced the same shocking scenes and the outcomes would have likely been the same, but work cover would have kicked in and covered them to the length of their policies. People forget work cover is NOT medical coverage, it is an insurance company who will fight for every dollar they have to give out. Coverage ends, its never for the rest of your life and they dont make a habit out of paying out policies in cases of gross negligence. Someone is going to end up sued and the employees sometimes say the whole court process was so terrible, often invasive and incredibly drawn out they probably wouldnt go through it if they could turn back time. This from the service many people seem to think is there, working in your best interests to cover you against serious injury and look after you for the rest of your life should something happen. Dreamworld failed and all their employees are entitled to everything they can reasonably prove in court. End of story.
    4 points
  4. Yeah look as fun as shitting on DW is right now, we probably don't need a report on every stoppage. If a ride is closed unexpectedly for a day I don't care. That happens. 3 of the parks bigger rides being closed at the same time without a solid reopening date is story enough. Wonder what could be going on with Side Winder? I get buzzsaw needs a new part and ToT is about the most complex ride anywhere, but Sidewinder is about the most standard ride anywhere?
    1 point
  5. The biggest part that everyone doesn't understand is this; it affects everyone differently. Some paramedics are so desensitised that they can easily brush things like this off, hell even a ride operator could if they were that kind of person. I personally am the kind of person who could brush off seeing something like this happen but I know that it's not the same for everyone, in fact, its the complete opposite for some. I know some paramedics who take every single thing they see, home with them. Some need to take a few minutes after a difficult job and some just see it as a job and don't let seeing such gruesome things stick with them. I personally know some of the QAS paramedics who attended the scene. I know them through family members who works with them. Most of them weren't negatively affected by this at all. There were of course a couple who are still having problems coping with witnessing the aftermath of that. These people see some of the most horrendous scenes every day, sometimes there's specific ones that stick with you, sometimes you never forget a single one. Everyone is different and I really feel sorry for the people in the civil case against Ardent because they may be professionals in the medical field but they still witnessed something truly insane.
    1 point
  6. Sorry I couldn’t take a picture over the barrier but they don’t like it.
    1 point
  7. I went September last year. Most of the advice given here is good. Here’s my tips. Use this website as your DLP bible. http://www.dlpguide.com/ Breakfast - Go to Maccas outside the park. It’s nice and quick. Just from my experience, the Monday we visited had no fast passes across either park due to the visitor numbers being very low. Also, DLP is visually stunning and very cold,in December. Take loads of photos. First Park - Walt Disney Studios. Start with Crush coaster (get Ratatouille fast pass if possible.) Then aim for Tower of Terror then Rocknrollercoaster. Attractions like the Tram tour and Art of animation may add to the movie themed experience, but if your looking to fit both parks in one day, I’d aim to do the main 4 by lunchtime and move to Disneyland park around 1pm. Disneyland Park. We went straight for lunch at Victoria’s Home Style Resturant on central plaza. A counter service roast beef/turkey sandwich eatery at the budget end. On the rides, we first went to Frontierland and BTM followed by Phantom Manor. Both really well themed and you’ll keep lunch down. Then on to Adventureland and Temple of Peril and POTC. POTC is right next to Pen Pan. Look at getting PP fast pass before going on POTC. Fantasyland has a younger appeal. Peter Pan is the main draw but if you can’t get a fast pass, consider if a 90 second ride is worth a 90 minute queue. Do visit the dragons lair under the castle. It’s possibly the best animatronic display in any Disney Park. It’s a small world is one of those “I did it once” rides. I’ve not done it since 1992. Finally, Discoveryland. Star Tours and Space Mountain are a must. Again, try to work the fast pass to your advantage. Shopping - I always have a theory of doing your souvenir shopping and the end of the day. However, while Main Street is open until park closing, some shops around the lands may close early. (DLP is a business) So if you fancy that BTM T.shirt or mug at Thunder Mesa mercantile, buy it before they close. At 6pm we eat at Plaza Gardens restaurant. A bit more expensive but it was an eat all you can buffet with lots of choice. Also, lots of Disney characters offering photos meaning you don’t have to queue during the day. After Dark - personally, I always found the outdoor rides the best after dark. BTM, temple of peril and even Mad Hatters tea cups. Have a great trip.
    1 point
  8. So I left after Ms Knight's evidence as I had to take the person I was going to the hearing with, back to the airport. As far as I am aware, Jason Johns, the next witness didn't provide anything major or new in regards to the case so I didn't miss much. Here is the link to yesterdays document: https://tinyurl.com/Thursday-inquest And here's todays: https://tinyurl.com/Friday-inquest There are many things I could say about Ms Knights evidence today but I really must refrain. What I will say is that she was very frustrating to get information out of and many of her answers were confusing or contradictory to previous answers she had given. Ms Knight appeared to be in quite a high level role yet seemed to have very minimal responsibilities or knowledge of her scope of responsibilities and powers. It was very difficult to listen to and quite concerning but I am so very glad that all of this is finally coming out. Such Damning evidence that points towards a complete failure of most aspects of that park.
    1 point
  9. Ms Knight states that no one was ever disciplined for using an e-stop button. In February 2016, a new button was added to the main control panel, a blue “conveyor reset” button that was stated in the memo to staff, to only be used by engineering. This was the same time the e-stop button was installed in the unload area. The memo states “to ONLY use that e-stop in the event of an emergency, in the emergency shut down procedure follows”. A later memo went out to clarify that this button was to be used if there is a risk to “guest safety or well being” “ride operator procedure” “damage to the equipment” and that “activating this button will cause the ride conveyor to stop”. When Ms Knight was asked about the main e-stop button on the control panel, she confirmed it is the final button in the sequence of 3-4 buttons to shut the ride down completely. Ms Knight was asked about the unlabelled e-stop at the unload platform and if she knew why it was unlabelled. Ms Knight answered “no”.
    1 point
  10. I reckon you'll find Dreamworld claim to run teams/pairs of mechanic/electricians. More teams = more fixy-fix.
    1 point
  11. Motocoaster is down today meaning that only 4/9 big thrill rides are operating and the only coaster open at the park is Escape to Madagascar. Lol.
    0 points
  12. Someone revoke Ardent of their registration to operate amusement rides. It is very apparent they can't do this properly and are training staff poorly. The entire management of Dreamworld should have been sacked like what the banks did in the royal commission. There is a culture that exists in this company that favours cheaping out and cutting corners in guest safety to make more profit. What a bunch of grubs, the entire maintenance department at the park need to be jailed. This company needs to be shut down as soon as possible for the good of humanity.
    0 points
  13. i know there was a first aid station near the fairy shop thing, which is very close, but by the sounds of Clark's testimony, he came from the WWW clinic. Even at a dead sprint thats several minutes - especially carrying trauma kits and an AED. For the water to still be at chest height when he hit the water (hint - the trough itself isn't that deep, so chest height is practically full strength operation) it sounds very different to some of the operator testimony about how quickly the ride was stopped. Given the guy was level 2 paramedic, he'd have a level head. I have a lot of confidence that his testimony is reliable... which does bring into question other people's statements...
    0 points
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