Nebuchanezzar
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Looks as orgasmic as it always did!
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casual - student otherwise no idea how many tradespeople they employ. they sure dont look like engineers though, lol. i assume they're just mechanics. there's a handful of them that i see all the time that work on the rides - 7 or so and they're all middle aged.
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how ever many of four days (fri-mon) I wish to work off peak, and whenever I want to work on peak. You are alternated between the rides you know (I know almost all) perhaps not every day, but often enough.
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there are mechanics and whatever there during the week when it's closed and people in the offices too. those jobs are permanent so i believe they'd be advertised on seek and whatever, yes? you should give 'em a ring. or join as a carny (like me!) and then move into the offices somehow idk
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Let me reword it then. No, the slab did not house a fair portion of the ride. It housed a small section of the ride and part of the station. The Tumble Bug is a very large, heavy ride with weight distributed only on the slab, whereas the Big Dipper's widespread supports allowed for weight to be distributed over a wide area. Another large ride on top of a slab which doesn't have a lot of support underneath (walk through the Dodgems building and see for yourself) might not be able to be accommodated.Well if your memory of the Dipper is not that great then perhaps it would be better for you not to comment on things you do not know all that much about. The slab housed a fair portion of the Big Dipper ride and it would be fair to say that its strength would be sufficient to hold the Tumblebug and another ride quite easily. As I said before, common sense tells you that.
I...did you even read what I typed? I suggest you take a trip to Luna Park. The only building adjacent to Maloney's corner is one built by and partly owned by Luna Park. The rest are behind the train tracks and on top of a cliff. Also, whereas Maloney's corner has been filled with rides for the last five years or so, atop of the carpark has been empty for that period of time. Residents would have rights to complain.Yes the top of the carpark is right next to apartment buildings but then so is Maloney's corner, which really invalidates your argument.
a) park policy is to have the kids rides next to the big rides to offer alternatives to those who aren't tall enough for bigger rides - a very sensible policy.Who is to say that this area atop the carpark couldnt be a future precint for an expanded kiddies area, with all the childrens rides located here??
the room on top of the car park isn't all that big, and it's not easy to get to. putting a rampway up there (i've got no idea where you propose they put it, but meh) would probably involve getting rid of something else. rides are a small part of lps - it would seem to be that it's unviable to knock down a merchandise stall or whatever to provide access to some kids rides especially since the area isn't big or easy to get to.
c) the trees are probably heritage listed
d) given that the apartments in this case would have been there first, and given that moving rides there would be a new development, and given what legal action the residents have previously sought and given how much it's cost lps throughout the last decade or so, i don't think your proposal sounds like an inviting option. we're talking about viable and realistic proposals. your ideas are as follows: scrap everything and put rides everywhere. not realistic. interesting but unrealistic. none of these things you're suggest could REALISTICALLY happen.
Jesus Christ lol. You were wrong, so there's no need to add anything else. I walk through there every day and I'm telling you that there's no room. No amount of poncey, stuck-up language makes you any more right. I'll take a bloody picture or describe it to you. Distance from Tango-Kitchen =7 metres or so Distance of Kitchen to cliff = 10 metres or so. There's no room for a cinema. You are wrong. Move on.Not a very intelligent or cogent rebuttal, with nothing to support your case in point. Dont bother. My point of view still stands.
Vehicles moving through packed midways is a bad idea generally. It's far easier and far more guest friendly to have emergency vehicles move in behind the scenes. It also allows a quick and direct link to the first aid bay.How about straight down the middle of the midway with an access point to Maloney's Corner remaing behing Coney Island?? That is what used to be the case in previous incarnations of the park and there is no reason to see that it would not work now. -
Too many unused open green spaces imho. Parks are usually far denser.
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Idk man. My memory of the Big Dipper isn't great, but wasn't it only a very small part of the ride that was on top of that slab? I'm looking at a photo of it now and it looks like one support and part of the station is on top of that building. I don't pretend to know the weights of each ride but the Tumble Bug isn't exactly a small ride, and I think another ride might be pushing it.Given the fact that the very same slab housed and held the former Big Dipper Rollercoaster I think there is a very good chance indeed of it holding another ride PLUS the Tumblebug. Common sense tells you that.
Because Maloney's corner is concealed by a cliff and a train track, whereas the top of the car park is smack bang next to apartment buildings.Granted that placing rides here will probably never happen, it however cannot be discounted as space for future projects. Why would there be any difference in placing rides there than in Maloneys Corner?
Nah there's no room. lol.You are correct. They do. But since LPS HAD plans to install a cinema EXACTLY where those said offices now reside behind the Tango, this certainly makes my idea feasible. All the offices,staff rooms etc were at one time earmarked to be placed in an building at the back of Maloney's corner. It could quite easily happen,if thats what the park wanted.There is room there , with a bit of vision. Oh and money of course!!!
Such as? The boardwalk?So does this space provide an entrance for emergency vehicles to run through a path behind the cliff face and the Big Top? If it does, it further validates the above point. Surely alternative measures could be found if LPS truly wanted to place a ride here or behind the Big Top. -
No, there isn't more room. Unless you want to be unrealistic and say 'scrap all seating areas and pathways for people to walk'. I haven't been past, but I assumed that the Rock 'n' Tug had been stuck between Scoops and Crystal Palace? I'll check tommorow night when I'm working. I'm not sure what type of live loads the top of the Dodgems building can accomodate, but given that there's only one pylon in the centre of the dodgems building, I'd suggest that it probably couldn't hold a very big ride. If you got rid of the TB, I reckon you might get a small roller-coaster up there. Maybe... On top of the car park is probably a noise restricted area given that there's no gap between apartments and any ride that would be up there. Also, I doubt the car park was built with a ride being atop of it in mind. You suggest that the park operators have no vision and foresight. Can I suggest that maybe restrictions on development thanks to the apartment dwellers is probably a more realistic reason for the park showing no signs of development? That and money sucking by the owners. The gap between the Big Top and the cliffs houses kitchens, staff dressing rooms, offices and a whole bunch of other shit. There's no room for a ride back there. The gap between the rotor and the face is used for emergency vehicle entrance. Ambulances and firetrucks. --- Wondercam's idea is pretty good though.The point that was being made is that there is STILL room for more rides in LPS with this lineup. Maloneys Corner could certainly be reconfigured to fit in more rides than it currently does and LPS HAS placed rides in between the Crystal Palace and the Scoops Ice Creamery. -
It's looking quite impressive I think. I don't know how much room you guys think LPS has, but with these two rides space is pretty much filled. They can't cram every space full of rides because there has to be room for people to...you know...walk around in and whatever. The only other possible space I can think of is on top of the Dodgems next to the Tumble Bug, but it'd be almost impossible to stick a ride up there.
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Tango Train's the best part of Luna Park, haha, I hope they never get rid of it. The reason it took so long is because they had to replace the steel beams underneath the ride. They needed manufacturer approval for a new variety of steel, but the manufacturer is now bust, so they had to get an independent engineer to approve it, and that took quite some time. That's probably not all that relevant now since it's been up and running for a while now.
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I very much doubt that Luna Park can contribute much to NSW's popularity, lol.
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it'd be useless at the time but i imagine its policy to prevent some kind of whacky re-start or somethingIs a e-stop possible without power ? I dont think it is. Most of the people were able to get off rides except for ranger and ferris wheel (until generator kicked in)
please shareTony, I think the best answer is that many have tried, and failed, to prove Sir Isaac Newton wrong, but what goes up, must come down. Simply by having people in the gondola is enough to prevent a perfect balance. (Although Bussy could share some stories about bounty that are pretty cool)
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lol i wasn't there don't blame me they should have just e-stopped and got everyone off the ride i reckon, and that's what they did, right?
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4 weeks to go i got told yesterday
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we operate the small slides if you ask. it's just that we can't be in two places at once.
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The HUSS Ranger has a T shape, with the whole ship thing jetting off perpendicular to the main arm/trailer setup. So you've got a pretty damn wide boat which is offset from the main arm by a few metres, and then a trailer set up further behind that. It actually extends back quite a bit from the front of the ride. The Kami Kazi type one is a lot skinnier. The one main arm is connected side by side to the two rotating arms. Pretty slender. The problem isn't the swinging circumference, or whatever you'd call it. The depth of the HUSS Ranger is the problem. And that space in betwene the Wild Mouse and Crystal Palace is a lot smaller than kit appears, imo. They had that little swinging ship thing there the christmas hols just past and it, the queue and a few chairs were fitted in pretty tight. re: coney. A guitar hero setup? I reckon that'd be a pretty ****ing popular attraction, lol.
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T-Rex: There's no room near the rotor for a ride as immense as the tumblebug. wondercam: there's CERTAINLY no room between the dodgems and coney for the spider moving some of the kids rides to the front and some to the middle isn't a bad idea to free up maloney's corner. there's certainly not enough room for the ranger in between the wild mouse and crystal palace. that rides footprint is a lot bigger than whatg is immediately obvious to you. Re "Dragons Rage" What a terrible name for a roller coaster at Luna Park. It's not IoA or anything. It'd need to be old timey themed. Take a ride name from Coney Island or the history of LPS and give it that name, basically.
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i've never experienced headbanging on the zipper. it's rough for sure, but that's 60% of the fun for me, and hence, i don't think you can use that to say you want some chaos over a zipper. re tumble bug: it'd be pretty ****ing fantastic to have it swining out over the harbour somehow and somewhere
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river caves would be laughed at these days. bermuda triangle is fantastic. what could be put in lps (if there was space) that would acheive the same thrills as bermuda triangle in such a small space?
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Eh. I've thought the same about the Tumble Bug loading but it's the same on every ride - every person working on that ride checks your safety restraint. Ferris Wheel - both doors are checked in view of the operator Tango - all bars checked by every staff member Spider - all bars checked by every staff member Dodgems - all belts checked by every staff member i'm pretty sure it's to cover LPS's bases, to be triple sure that the harnesses are locked. Don't blame LPS for that. Blame liability laws. Tumble Bug is an old bastard ride which takes forever to load for a hundred different reasons. Not much we can do to go faster. When I'm working there I have to let people in, unlocked their bar, balance the ride out, and then make sure each bar is locked. Have a think about it before you complain, lol.
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There's a little bit of talk going on - or there was, since I haven't heard much since then. Mentions of a new roller coaster were made but they could have been made in jest. The Tango seems to be the priority at the moment, in getting it up to scratch (which is gonna take a few months, somehow). From a business pov, don't you think that their business plan makes a lot of sense? It makes them a tonne of money with little effort. --- Getting rid of the Tumble Bug/relocating the Dodgems would be a wise idea imho. I think the Big Dipper building might be heritage listed. If you free up that space (which involves relocating the mechanics workshop too), you'd have a massive gap in which you could redevelop part of the Midway to incorparate some permanent attractions. Other than that, areas for redevelopment are pretty limited. The picnic area is completely off limits for development because it's vital in an emergency. I guess what I'd like to see is the Spider relocated to where the Tumblebug is, with the Ranger sitting kinda upstairs and to the side of that. So (looking towards the cliffs) you'd have Coney Island on the left, a small gap for access to the staff area/wheelchair access point, Spider, and then on top of a small building (perhaps housing the dodgems?) you'd have the ranger which could be accessed through the big dipper temple. redevelop maloney's corner into something far more permanent - needn't be a roller-coaster but it would need to be something with a presenseDo you see any sign that the current owners of the park are looking to add new permanent attractions? I don't think so. Their business plan seems to be focused on functions and events with new rides only coming to the park in the form of temporary travelling attractions -
Tear down the Tumble Bug (which is a run down hunk of junk anyhow), and couple that area with the area behind and to the side of Coney Island, and you could build some kind of freaky, compact roller coaster in that space.
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It's staying until the end of MarchBig Splash was fantastic! It's a quick ride and also has a large capacity (ie. about 500-1000 persons per hour). Even if the queue is at MAXIMUM (100-200 people in line) you're only waiting about 5-10 minutes. SO an excellent addition - very pleased they brought this one in for the holidays! Hope they introduce a ride like this or a new coaster and make them permanent.
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go karts would be pretty damn awesome
the room on top of the car park isn't all that big, and it's not easy to get to. putting a rampway up there (i've got no idea where you propose they put it, but meh) would probably involve getting rid of something else. rides are a small part of lps - it would seem to be that it's unviable to knock down a merchandise stall or whatever to provide access to some kids rides especially since the area isn't big or easy to get to.
c) the trees are probably heritage listed
d) given that the apartments in this case would have been there first, and given that moving rides there would be a new development, and given what legal action the residents have previously sought and given how much it's cost lps throughout the last decade or so, i don't think your proposal sounds like an inviting option. we're talking about viable and realistic proposals. your ideas are as follows: scrap everything and put rides everywhere. not realistic. interesting but unrealistic. none of these things you're suggest could REALISTICALLY happen.
A new ride replacing LPS Ranger?
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