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  1. Ships are designed to flex and bend, Bulkheads act like shock absorbers and can pretty much expand and contract if needed. as seen in the video below. This would make attaching any ride with a decent footprint ridiculously expensive if possible at all. Also the fact some rides wont even work unless the ship is perfectly level, any listing at all and it will not go. Case in point, the carousel on the Oasis of the Seas, specially designed and super reinforced because a standard carousel wouldnt run at a 5 degree list. http://youtu.be/NE_ri8PkihE Then you get the problem of corrosion, very fe
  2. It wont be a woodie. the footprint/area they need to clear would be far too big. Its not like a steel coaster that can have supports every now and then, every bit of wood needs to be supported. Its certainly doable but highly highly unlikely for a place like dreamworld.
  3. You don't understand. You can make any ride into those, that's purely the theme. Are you saying if they put in an all out insane roller coaster with that style theme you'd would think its a suitable replacement? I'm guessing they don't choose new attractions by choosing the theme first then the ride after, other way around guys.
  4. yes i must know absolutely nothing, i never claimed to know electrical, mechanical, i said i knew about the structural because i do, theres a shitload of crap boilermakers out there but grouping us all as the same is just ignorant of you. Unlike many others i do everything to standards even if involves having a whinge for my super to go get me the standard to read up on. Ive often had to work to 0.5mm tolerances so i know my shit. All bob tan said was the car is lighter, for all you know it could be 20kg lighter. i have no idea who the guy is and i said one comment about most gms knowing shi
  5. i may not be a ride designer, but im a qualified boilermaker and guess who builds the structural part of the cart? a boilermaker, guess who has to understand why they build something a certain way? i do. I need to know what forces act where so i know why i have to gusset or brace it, i need to be able to calculate the exact weight or a structure to allow for movement. I may not know everything but i sure as hell know a shitload more then most of you. Oh well you can go back to bullshitting it up like one thread i saw where they claimed a flaw in lethal weapon was x-ray welded. Enjoy your mis-
  6. Yeah but the ride isnt going to be that much lighter, thats what ive been saying all along the weight difference is probably only a couple of hundred kg max. And i know the ride has a preset setting it uses instead of getting up to a certain speed or input, it would take 3 launches to dial in a new preset setting to a slightly more powerful one to launch a slightly heavier car which would travel further anyway so you can use a even lower setting again. Yes its a new ride experience, yes its an improvement but dont claim is all the work of a brand new car instead of telling everyone the launc
  7. im not complaining about the seat. i dont care about having to wait in line for 1 more rotation, i bitch in this thread because some people seem to like to talk shit they have no idea about and i thought some of you may need a bit of a reality check you dont know everything. Ive seen it before on this forum and giving wrong information is just crap, if you dont know what your talking about no point opening your mouth. Now back to the Thread i like the new car, i like the idea, although im still adamant if they made the top of the tower go over-vert it would be so awesome.
  8. so they claim is a new lighter car but they have to reduce the seating to reduce weight? ffs dreamworld your bloody ridiculous, a heavier car would go higher when launched at the same speed anyway, a little thing called inertia you learn it in year 9 science........ and in my experience general managers know f all about what they manage, my gm at work has never worked a day on the tools and really has no clue about construction.
  9. no because the ramp at the front forces air up and over the seats in a bubble. So by the time its reached the second row its already being forced over the top, same thing with convertibles. So they only put 2 seats in the front because thats not inside the bubble, put 4 seats in that row and its just trying to push something with a straight up and down front at speed, would take alot more force and the cars inertia would be greatly reduced
  10. the beams are either being used as a jig (unlikely) or for some reason they think its easier to attach beams and the framework in one then put the beams on separately which would be a million times easier. good job contractors! id like to see them lift that in one go, that frame would just bend itself over!
  11. Is it concreted in or anything? from the shape of the ellipse on the north end it looks like they are assembling it on the floor to crane up to sit over the end of the tunnel for theming.
  12. well someone described it has a little house type thing, i have no idea what it looks like so i was just putting it out there. instead of the onride picture being taken on the launch i was saying it might be taken when the car comes back down the tower so you can actually see people.
  13. Probably has something to do with wind resistance, why was there only 3 in the front of the old car? probably the same reason, im guessing wind going into the back of seats isnt very aerodynamic, so they have maximised the seating while keeping the wind resistance at an acceptable level, i dont know what the additional structure is like but my guess would be a camera housing and the picture would be taken when the cars coming back down which is then shown on the plasma like sea vipers.
  14. Well we all know the launch system was very capable of hitting the top with the old car, it does seem to be a bit hit and miss these days i guess it depends how long it has to build up after each launch too.
  15. Thats where it was hitting when i went in july with the old car.......
  16. Yeah exactly, im not saying they cant loose weight off it because they can im just saying its really not going to make a huge difference because they wont loose as much as dreamworld seem to claim. There wont be any noticeable performance increase just because of a so called "lighter car", giving the launch systems a tuneup will have a much bigger increase.
  17. That isnt the axle though the axle would run through that and be much smaller since bearings and such have to fit in that tube too and those wheels would be a cnc billet of aluminium much like a car alloy wheel is. PLease just stop now you seem to have very limited understanding of the contruction side of things, yes its got some burly parts on it compared to a standard coaster car but its not a standard coaster car is it. Bigger wheels reduce the wear and tear on things like bearings and the wear on axles, greatly decreasing the down time caused by failing parts such as this. Everything is
  18. Yeah and carbon fibre costs 100 times that of steel mate. Gazza all that you just circled is the theming the fact that back bar is only stich welded shows its not a structural element, strip off all that theming which is probably only 3mm plate or so and it would just be a frame underneath you can even see the start of it that attached to the wheels, that would just continue on into a beam which runs the whole length of the car with a cross beam or two. Trust me you are trying to talk way out of your knowledge here guys whats shown on the outside is never that structural its all the internal
  19. You do relise Im talking about the chassis of the car here? you ever seen a bare chassis? its like 6 beams welded together with some gusseting. Im not talking about the electronic or hydraulic side of this because all the weight saving will mostly come from the metalwork side.
  20. You'd be surprised how little design has been changed, yes you can use lighter materials and you can reduce weight but you cant do it by sacrificing the strength so you have to put more material into it. In the end were talking about building a car here not something that involves alot of engineering, there's only so much you can do with a basic frame. All they've done with x2 was remove material from low stress areas, from looking at that that's how the train should have been made in the first place, that was only needed because the first train was way over engineered.
  21. Heres a "statement" from the engineering world, materials have not gotten stronger over the years, neither have welds so i dont see how thats possible, ive seen drawings of the first ships my company built and comparing it to the current ones 20 years later nothing has changed, still the same materials with the same strength. If its going to be lighter its not even going to be 100kg lighter so it wont make much difference anyway. When has something dreamworld ever claimed be remotely true anyway....
  22. Sure adding another row would be nice but none of you even know if the new car is lighter, the chassis would have to be steel, ally would just flex too much under high g's, the plating may even be steel too depending if its a paint job or raw, noone knows if it is lighter or not and you cant base that on a picture. Considering none or you have an engineering degree (that i know of) i would be reluctant to just throw stuff out there thinking its possible when the designers have gotten the most out of it they can. Im a boilermaker and even my companys design team gives us some shit you just loo
  23. its inside a dark tunnel all day every day, you see it in the light for what 7 seconds?
  24. Why is being made of aluminium a bad thing? its lighter so can be launched faster with less power. But i'd say at least the chassis would be steel even if the casing is aluminium.
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