Zanstabar
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After visiting the park and going for a quick ride, I must say that I enjoy the presentation of the Gold Coaster. From the pastel colours to the plant graphics, it feels like a postcard vision of the Gold Coast with a dash of Golden Girls. With all that said I do wish that they could've done something bit more substantial. The renovation, while aesthetically pleasing, doesn't do anything to change the existing problems with the ride and it's queue. My biggest gripe might just be the sign at the entryway. I'll commend them for going for a Googie inspired design but the execution is just a bit too flat. Would've been great to seem some more depth or maybe even some texture to break it up.
At the end of the day, it's great to see them tie this attraction back into Ocean Parade. When my only sensible comment is about an entry sign, I think you've done well.
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Man, the event just keeps getting more and more lacklustre each and every year. I understand that our parks aren't powerhouse of themed entertainment and are operating on a smaller budget, but it's reaching a point were every element has been regurgitated so much that any fun has been sucked out. Each show seemed repetitive with very little differing from day trade. Wheres the spectacle? Wheres the wow? I was holding out hope that the parade might've offered something unique but what I witnessed was the same as the Day Parade sans Looney Tunes.
Now maybe I'm a cynical adult, and you might be correct, but shouldn't we be asking a little more from the parks than just the same old things?
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It’s as if they’ve taken the spirit of minimalism and turned it into the most bland and uninspired end result possible. Let’s hope this isn’t the final result.
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The most exciting thing about the website is that they seem to be moving away from the term "precincts". Worlds and Destinations sound a whole lot more exciting and a lot less clinical than previous years.
It'll be interesting to see what the rest of the food offerings are. The Mexican Feast does seem like a nice offering and the pineapple churros has certainly piqued my interest. I wonder what the chances of seeing Jambalaya on the menu once again...
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19 hours ago, Prequel said:
The only way you will overcome roller coasters is through riding them, speaking from experience.
You do not need to jump into the deep end, in some cases it will only create more fear. Slowly and surely take more and more steps to build your confidence, these feat of engineering are nothing to be scared of.
So in short, my advice is take what you can handle. You are allowed to take your time, there is no rush. Just be productive about it, there is no use in being scared of something you clearly have some interest in.This is the best advice you’ll get. There’s no real objective statement of what rides are scary and what aren’t because everyone has different fears.
I’m scared of heights, conflict and @AlexB so Giant Drop is a nightmare for me, but for some it’s a cakewalk. I ended up finally riding when I finally felt ready to do so rather than forcing myself, and now it’s one of my favourite experiences on the Gold Coast.
To echo Prequel, take your time and exposure yourself to similar but smaller experiences.
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The park would need to have a bigger range of Fright Nights and Halloween/Horror specific merchandise to make it viable. Hasn't there only ever been a small handful of FN related merch each year?
As a fan of all things spooky, would I love to see it? Absolutely, but I don't want to see it unless they fully commit and provide more than the bare minimum they normally do.
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There's nothing truly Atlantean in New Atlantis. I want to root for our local parks and be able to shout "world class" unironically, it's just so hard to do so when they give you such poor products. I want to speak of Sea World the same way I speak of Islands of Adventure but I can't when you're giving us Six Flags.
On 17/07/2020 at 12:33 PM, Luke said:I would love to observe how VRTP goes about building new attractions for their parks. See the whole new attraction process: deciding on attraction/ride, securing capital, design, construction, how major decisions are made, and the reasoning/logic behind those decisions.
This. I truly wonder the logic behind some decisions. Coming from a creative background, some of the decisions seem very baffling and makes me curious as to what happened behind the scenes.
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My visit to the park yesterday was my first experience seeing Vortex and The New Atlantis since construction had gone vertical, and the lack of anything "natural" was immediately apparent. The entryway to New Atlantis and the dolphin lagoons no longer feel welcoming as they once did, as giant concrete forms aren't as charming as a well maintained landscape.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that I don't think there is any charm, soul or personality to the New Atlantis. It just feels so very clinical, which feels so weird for a theme park.
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The old Parkz hits me like a brick, almost as much as finding Roller-Coaster.com.au again
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This report makes me miss USJ a whole lot. How do you think it compares to the rest of the Universal Parks?
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4 minutes ago, Smol bean said:
So it looks like movie world are doing a daily countdown with a video showing a ride each day until movie world is back open
How many rides showcased in the countdown will open with the park?
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Given the sorry state of the event in recent years, I'm hoping that the resources that would've gone into Fright Nights 2020 can be used to improve it for the next.
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21 hour ago, red dragin said:
Doesn't look too bad, we where never going to get anything amazing.
"...fully immersive precinct..."
"...the ultimate Atlantean adventure"
"...world-class attractions..."
All quotes from Clark Kirby, found in a Blooloop article about New Atlantis.
I'm aware that Marketing and PR are always going to try and spin things in their favour, but I never expect them to deceive us. If New Atlantis was never going to be "fully immersive", then don't claim it to be.
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Just now, Zac Beckwith said:
Do they have any form of misters which somewhat dampen the ground? If not then this may be a way to fix the issue without spending loads on shades and covers
They don't have misters or much in the way of anything to make the ground more pleasant.
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Clearly it's a COPIC FYR1. It's undeniable.
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1 hour ago, Spike said:
Sadface. I’ve missed you Alexb. Back to discussion of Hot Wheels, is anyone actually going to miss the Hot Wheels Partnership?
The Hot Wheels IP had absolutely no impact on the ride experience. If you want my opinion, it was an absolute waste.
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35 minutes ago, Prequel said:
I remember going to Wet and Wild as an end of year rewards day for school, and i just remember the pain of my feet burning because of the lack of shade there was on the footpath. I haven't returned in a few years now, but if you have not added more shading to paths, or cooling it down with water or something, please do.
Last time I went to the park in late February, there was a sign advising guests to wear shoes rather than doing anything actually meaningful to change the problem.
It's one of the many things that contribute to me not having a good or even mediocre impression of the park.
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I wonder if they ever intended to have “New Atlantis” be an immersive land or whether it was just the buzzword of the day when they were writing the press release. To say I’m getting more and more pessimistic about these additions is an understatement.
The wasted potential is probably the worst part of this. They could have done something unique in the Australian industry but seem to have settled upon the most generic addition possible. If money/time/resources were always going to have such an impact, I would’ve much preferred an area that worked well within their limitations... I’d prefer simple done to a high standard over the ambitious done badly
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10 minutes ago, Taj O'Neill said:
i think maybe the leviathan queue will have the most theming and seeing as they are building a massive mountain structure as part of that precinct you may be wrong but we'll just have to wait for the final product
Is this in reference to the original Photoshop composite? Pretty sure that's very inaccurate given how the layout for Leviathan isn't correct. At this point, I think it's safe to assume that the physical model is the the closest representation of what we'll be getting, which doesn't have me very excited.
When I hear "fully immersive precinct" and "sleek, eye-catching and architecturally aesthetic theming" I come to expect just the likes of Pandora: The World of Avatar or Diagon Alley, not the queue for Green Lantern
24 minutes ago, Taj O'Neill said:does anyone know if the leviathan will have a metal track or a wooden track
Pretty sure it's all wood. I don't see them touting it as a hybrid
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I have a sinking feeling that the symbolic alphabet is going to be the only form of placemaking within New Atlantis. When I think of Atlantis, I definitely don't think of these what those photos of Vortex are offering.
Holding out hope I'm incorrect...
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2 hours ago, Taj O'Neill said:
All Hail Clark Kirby the Australian theme park God
Little early to be singing the praises of someone, don't you think?
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4 hours ago, Smol bean said:
Well dreamworld had a space theme for tot2
Tower of Terror was more "Fortitude Valley" than it was "Outer Space".
If you're stuck with a name like "Steel Taipain" and an abandoned saw mill next door, why not go with a bit of Outback Steampunk? A land of imaginative creations with an Australian flavour...
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The Rocky Hollow Log Ride was a staple for almost every family trip of mine to Dreamworld. I have fond memories riding it as a young kid, being terrified of that very meagre final plunge. I even remember riding it with members of the family that don't normally partake in other attractions, such as my grandparents.
Call it nostalgia but the best replacement is just a flume. It's a staple of a Theme Park experience, with the worlds most well regarded parks all having an installation of some sort. Each and every family member, from the young to the young-at-heart, are all able to enjoy the experience. The most exciting prospect to me is that a flume attraction offers Dreamworld an opportunity to reintroduce well-themed environments and exciting stories to it's guests; Flumes can be quite underwhelming without a keen appreciation for themed entertainment.
Is this the most exciting concept? Is it the most flashy? Absolutely not, but I do not believe that it has to be. Not every addition to a park needs to be the brightest, most modern or the most daring. The last thing Dreamworld needs is to be on the "Bleeding Edge"; What they need what is proven to work, what already meets their existing market and what fills the gap in their lineup.
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An inverting flat ride on the Gold Coast being loosely themed towards a wave?
What can I say except "Innovate, don't imitate"...
How is everyone's expectations holding up? A lot like a story in one of Plato's works, mine have sunk significantly since the announcement. Maybe I had my expectations too high? Or maybe when they bill it as a well-themed and immersive land I expect them to actually deliver...
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Carnivale 2020
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Posted · Edited by Zanstabar
Carnivale 2021 could be described in one word: Generic.
I want applaud them for taking a new approach this year and trying to implement themed areas with specific entertainment and food offerings. It is really refreshing to see a park attempt to give the event a cohesive feel, it just disheartens me that it was executed in the cheapest possible manner. Each area was a small collection of vaguely relevant performers, a printed canvas sign and an often out-of-sorts float. Boundaries between each area were more often than not an afterthought. Why is the Tex-Mex truck in New Orleans and not in the relevant Mexico section of the park? Why is the Bayou float located in Africa? Why is Rio’s defining feature a set of wall lights and a third-party vendor? Rather than standing as strong individual experiences that come to together to form the pastiche that is Carnivale, each world is a hodgepodge that stems from a desire to market the event in a different manner.
Within each section there is one thing I must praise: the food. Like the years preceding it, Carnivale 2021 has some great food. Options stem from traditional theme park fare of burgers, fries and hot dogs, through to curries and grill plates. As a more adventurous eater, I would’ve loved to have seen a few more “exotic” options through the park. A missed chance from some jambalaya and beignets.
Aquacolour stands as what may be the only attempt at a nighttime finale in any Australian park, and I think it the type of show that can really cap off the night and leave a lasting impression in guests before they leave. It is a real shame to say that I didn't enjoy the show this year. While they dropped last years vague attempt at a narrative, they also dropped any personality or unique identity the show had. Royalty-free EDM and Dubstep scores the entire performance, seasoned with plenty Dramatic Rise sound effects for good measure. Clip-Art covers each and every foundation of water, so much so that I can't even recall what was projected.
Aquacolour grabs your attention right at showtime with a literal bang; fireworks. It is a move that reminds me of the former Illuminations at EPCOT, one of my personal favourite shows of all time. Unlike that show, Aquacolour doesn't maintain your attention. There are no peaks and valleys, no variation between scenes; it stays at a constant, middling pace as if it was put in cruise control. While I understand that it may be hard to pace a show when you have no narrative or dramatic arc, it can still be done, and it must be done to make an engaging show. Simply put, contrast is exciting, monotony isn't. Aquacolour 2021 doesn't carve an identity or leave a lasting impression, it just simply exists.
I wanted to like this year, believe me, and there's plenty that I did enjoy. It such a shame to say that Carnivale 2021 just didn't leave an impression in the slightest. For whatever happens to the event in the coming years, I hope that Village can push themselves a little bit further and make an event that doesn't just satisfy but exceed.