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  1. Here are some useful resources for anyone wanting to dig deeper: For those who want to spend $263 - AS 3533.1-2009 is the Australian Standard for amusement devices, Page 30 for info about containment and restraint. This is for design and manufacturing of amusement devices. https://www.intertekinform.com/en-au/standards/as-3533-1-2009-123064_saig_as_as_274721/ Worksafe Qld code of conduct (for operators, not manufacturers): https://www.worksafe.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0016/118501/amusement-devices-cop-2023.pdf Safework Aus guide for amusement devices (federal version of the above): https://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/sites/default/files/2022-10/amusement-devices-general-guide_-_updated_september_2022_1.pdf
  2. And don't forget everyone's favourite attraction - Young Einstein Gravity Homestead.
  3. It's $58.33 per park (SW, MW, WnW), with the option to do two parks twice. That's $35 per entry if you use all 5 days. It's not that unreasonable if you're doing a 2 week gold coast vacation. Sure, it's probably not worth it if you go now (since 3 major rides are closed at SW, WoO isn't open, Scooby isn't open), but it's a lot better than paying for single day passes at each park over a 2 week period.
  4. If you check the recent posts in Murrissippi Motors and Jungle Rush threads, ShakeShack appears to have an axe to grind against DW. There's no inside knowledge or insight to be gained here. Looks like a typical DW maintenance extension, which is pretty common on their larger, older rides.
  5. To be honest, if that is how the track was being stored without any maintenance, it would likely have rusted away to nothing more than scrap over 20 years. My guess is that this was scrapped a long time ago when it became clear that the Thunderbolt plot would not be getting a new attraction. They may still have a train or some train cars somewhere. There was only two Meisho Double Loop coasters still operating around the time Thunderbolt was scrapped - one in China which closed in 2010 and the other in North Korea - which is apparently still operating (but I would doubt that), so selling them wasn't really an option. All of the other Meisho Double Loops were removed from parks around 2000-2005.
  6. Seems good. Give it a shot. If you've hit a dead end online, the only real option is to go directly to the park.
  7. This seems ok. You might even ask if they'd be open to sharing some more photos or videos of the history of Ocean Parade - even if they'd be open to doing a Reels/Tiktok series looking back on the transformation over the years. This is a particularly good time to do an Ocean Parade retrospective on Socials because The Claw will be closing in January, for King Claw's construction. This way you're presenting them with an idea for an easy, nostalgia based Social Media campaign, and they'll likely thank you for the idea rather than feel obliged to just answer questions. You're offering them something of value in the idea, and all your questions would be answered through them making that series. Just keep the focus on Ocean Parade (and possibly Village Green) and away from the other side of the park.
  8. I'm not sure why you need this information, but you could try writing an email to Dreamworld. Their social media team is pretty active and if you're doing a blog/vlog about it, they might even have photos, videos of the ride and the demolition to share. Given their rebranding to a more classic DW aesthetic, they might still have a train and a piece of track for it to sit on - even to install as 'memorial' theming for whatever goes into the empty plot of land. If anything of the original ride does exist, they'll likely be able to find out and might even invite you to come see it for yourself. To be honest, if it does exist, I think DW would probably want to do this anyway to promote whatever is being built on the 'historic' site, since they'll likely want to promote it as being as iconic as the original ride - even if it's for water park expansion.
  9. That's not an official time frame, I was just using that as an example of how 'a lot of work' doesn't need to be done sequentially, it can all happen at the same time - including testing. 20 weeks of work can be done in 5-6 weeks if you have 4 different crews working on different parts of it simultaneously. The testing of the coaster can happen during that time period also - at night - when no one is around to get in the way. But testing can still happen in the day, with temporary fencing and signage erected to keep people out of the ride envelope. Same with the cars, although their testing can mostly be done off-site. The final testing on the guide rail shouldn't take more than a few days, it's not a particularly complicated ride. It looks like they're still on track for a late-December opening. Hopefully they get good weather for the next few weeks to push through the bulk of the big stuff.
  10. All of the work happens simultaneously. Pre-fab panels can be installed, while concrete is poured, while vehicles are tested off-site, while landscaping, electrical and plumbing go in, while a roof is installed. They're all different contractors working at the same time. If everyone needs 6 weeks to complete their part of the job, the area will be finished in 6-10 weeks - allowing some time for them to get out of each other's way (like installing wall panels before a roof). It is a lot of work, but it will come together pretty quickly. I'm just glad that DW are putting some effort into a car ride, and not just plonking down a rail. It will be nice to have a well-themed gentle ride that grandparents and young kids can ride together.
  11. Correct. Even mesh fencing without the HDPE hoarding panels would exceed requirements. Both are just as secure as the black chainlink fences that parks love to put up around coasters.
  12. https://www.worksafe.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0016/118501/amusement-devices-cop-2023.pdf Page 46. You're welcome.
  13. This is a much better implementation than even I was expecting. After the big spend on Rivertown, I thought DW might go for the lowest-cost option and preserve the existing station/queue. I still thought they'd do a good job, but I'm really pleased to see them re-working the entire area to create a better impression. I'm also really glad to see that the theming ties in much more with Tail Spin. It seems like they've now decided on a unified aesthetic for Ocean Parade which has been a total mess for the last 15 years containing motorsports, trolls, turbines, monsters, seaplanes, and Kevil Hill. It definitely feels like Ocean Parade will be the next big area to get some love. Unrelated - Gold Coaster turns 30 next year. It's time for a replacement, and there is a lot of land from the Wipeout plot to Kevil Hill (Including GC and Thunderbolt plots) that could be used for an amazing Ocean Parade development.
  14. 6 months is enough. It's already being heavily promoted online. They haven't really scheduled for 12 months of marketing and they don't need it - the audiences are different. If they close Claw at end of Jan, they should be opening King Claw in time for Sept school holidays. Removing a ride can be done in a week. It's all just bolted together. The slow part will be demolishing/rebuilding the station if they need to. But presumably, the queue and station will remain, and the lowering floor will be widened toward the path with new footings for the structure. There is actually a lot of room to do this that is currently taken up by gardens and food trucks. There's no reason all of that couldn't easily be done in 3-4 months, with 3-4 months to install the new ride. So let's all hope for good weather and speedy shipping and we'll all be taking our first rides on King Claw this time next year.
  15. Yes. The original 'Guest Feedback' response to justify something incredibly dumb was replacing Wipeout with shaded seating. Hence the 'claw cove' and 'shaded seating' pitch. It's a way for the new DW leadership to show that they've changed, and that they understand the dumb decisions of the past and empathise with guests about the stupidity of it all. It's kind of cheesy, but it's clever. If people are seeing it as a dig at VRTP, it's probably because they're making the same dumb decisions as the former DW leadership. It's also great that DW haven't cheaped out on a Zamperla model, but have improved the experience by offering a taller/faster ride, with more capacity to reduce wait times. Fingers crossed they're also talking to Intamin about Motocoaster.
  16. Bigger pendulum rides aren't always better. The forces are higher on a smaller pendulum that swings faster through a smaller arc, and there is a faster transition between the positive and negative forces creating a much more intense thrill. King Claw will feel less forceful than The Claw - even if the actual forces are identical - because they're spread out over a longer arc, which isn't necessarily a bad thing for most people and should result in more people wanting to re-ride it. It will still be a thrilling and forceful ride, because the larger Intamin models are far superior to their competitors. I'm glad they stuck with Intamin and are switching up the experience without chasing 'records'.
  17. Even with people knowing that there is a backward row and that it is an up-charge, people a) don't want to pay $40 and, b) don't know how to purchase a backward ticket. Having a more reasonable $10-15 price is good. But there is no information on the website for how to buy a backward ride, just that you can ride it backward. There is also no clear information in the app, and you can't find anything under 'tickets' or 'extras' in the app itself. The link to where you can buy it is labelled as fast track and one-shot. So letting people know that you can get a ticket in the app, and tweaking the language in the app to make it more obvious would help. Also, QR codes at the entrance to the ride are always a good idea - DW has them, but I've only seen them at the platform end of the queue, whereas they should be at the entrance to the queue.
  18. I could see an UltraSplash in the old Thunderbolt plot. Would tie Ocean Parade and WWW nicely together being part coaster, part water ride. It would also fix that entire dead-end in the park and open it up again. But I'd also be keen just for a re-theme of Motocoaster with some new trains.
  19. The Tigers at Dreamworld don't 'perform'. What you see in the Tiger Island presentations is the equivalent of a pet cat chasing a laser pointer or throwing a bone for a pet dog to chase and collect. The animals cannot and will not ever be able to survive in the wild but still have wild instincts, which the handlers help foster and nurture through play. Animals, like people, also have bad days. But we don't really know if this particular incident was aggression or just an animal getting carried away with play, or even just an animal in a bad mood wanting to be left alone in that particular moment. This is just my opinion, but withdrawing contact from animals that have known nothing else, including contact from specific people that raised them, is cruel to the animals.
  20. Sorry to derail the thread back to the original topic, but the restaurant designs look great. The only thing I'm really keen to see more of is the menu and if they're going to theme the cuisine to the South American jungle theme also. I would love some unique flavours that aren't available elsewhere in the park - even if it's just a few signature dishes and some seasonal specials.
  21. This is actually not correct. These are mood board images. In this particular instance AI has replaced random photos and screenshots pulled from the internet. I work in a creative job, and no one has been stomped on or replaced through the specific use of AI in this way. A mood board is not the creative vision, or the finished work. It is simply a collection of images to show someone else the general idea of what is in your head so they can agree to it before you actually engage the artists/designers/engineers to do the work. I don't really understand or share your outrage because I do understand the creative process. All that AI has replaced here is some random photos from google images, some screenshots from movies, and at worst some stock photos from Getty which would have been obtained as comps (for free) anyway. That's it. No one was engaging artists to put together a mood board in any creative field. This isn't architecture where they're putting out 3D renders. If anything AI has given them a tool to better communicate the look and feel they want without having to just show photos of what has been done before, and for that reason it will make the end result more original, more creative, more detailed and less of a knock-off of existing work. Exactly no one has been put out of work or disrespected or 'stomped on' because of the use of these images, because they're just replacing random photos that someone would have pulled from google images, slapped into a mood board to get the go-ahead from DW to actually start designing and creating. A few of us have been saying this for a while. There is no way DW want all of the story/art released before the ride opens. After the ride opens, Earthstory will just use the photos/videos of the finished product.
  22. They would have pitched more than one idea/story, likely at a very high level against other companies, and when DW selected them as the vendor they would have selected their preferred story to flesh out and design more thoroughly with more detailed concept art. I'm not sure if we're reading the same thing, but they're clearly talking about their design philosophy for the actual physical visitor experience, not their graphic design process for early concept art. They're clearly saying that the visitor experience should be more mechanical and less digital, not that they're hand-painting their concept art in oil paint. It is doubtful that DW would allow them to publish the actual documentation until after the ride opens because it would just give everything away, nor would they want to because it would just be educating their competitors on how to win a pitch.
  23. AI is exactly the right tool to use to show a vibe to a client to get approval to move forward on the actual design. They will remove the current pitch/design images from their website as soon as they can get promotional photos of the actual finished product. But they're not talking about their pitching process in that quote. They're talking about the actual ride design and theming - meaning fewer screens/projections, more physical props and animatronics. Given how SDSC turned out using digital 'solutions' for Next Gen, I think that is the right decision and I'm excited to see the finished product later this year.
  24. $15 is the price point at which I'm willing to give it a go, so that's on the list for my next visit. If they have dynamic discount pricing for off-peak days (say $10 even just for pass holders), I'd likely make a regular thing. And now that we know DW are reading these threads and implementing some of our suggestions, can we also get some better designed soft-drink sipper cups? Something a bit more adult and easier to carry - or even something that has a seal so it can be put in bags and station lockers on rides without the risk of spilling.
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