Shows and carnival rides

[Gazza]

Was it deleted? or is wonderbus2003's real name Daniel? :confused: Daniels last post was back on march 28th. The way we are gonna get new rides is by you starting a carnival ride company

[Daniel]

You friggin dolt. I've said nothing in this thread for ages.

[Richard]

good luck man, really most operators here these days aren't soo much interested in new rides, they are looking to buy off each other, or co-own with other owners.

And you're trying to actually put the point forward that there is a future in carnival rides? The Pinfari Xpress will set you back around USD$2 million. That'd be probably a five year investment before it pays itself off, not bad returns really. Wide trucks can very easily travel on most Australia roads, especially rural roads, as they would to get from the different Royal Shows etc. Over a certain width and you need a pilot (vehicles in front and behind that warn other drivers of the wide/slow load and help you to overtake etc.). No police or anything like that is needed, just the required permits, which are hardly too costly or hard to get. It's hardly a rare occurance on Australian roads, and I can assure you that weight would not be an issue outside of major towns and cities. Getting them in wouldn't be much of an issue either. Anyone seen the main street of Coonabarabran down in NSW? There's about a foot-deep depression from the semi-trailers going through nonstop, and the soft earth in that area of the world. The roads all down the East coast of Australia take industrial and mining loads day-in-day-out. I can assure you that the comparitively light loads of a few rides will not make much of a difference, nor is it somehow illegal or not allowed.

[Bussy]

Ah no daniel it's not a load of rubbish, its true facts, weights and sizes of most rides that travel in germany aren't able to travel here because of size and weight, the australian road laws just dont permit them.

Umm Huss, that was me, Bussy who said that not Daniel, you galah. See:

Huss, that’s a load of rubbish.

Anyway, did you see the fermenters that they moved from the Carlton United Brewery on Broadway recently? Those things were huge. They were transported on low loaders and they each weighed about 100 tonnes. They had a rolling police escort that closed the cross streets as the trucks went along. I find it very hard to believe that any of those rides cannot be broken down into small enough sections so that it can be transported. I mean the whole idea of those rides is that they are made to move around, so why would the manufacturer make them to big to be transported? "The Bus is now leaving for Galahs Roost, South Australia"

[HussRainbow]

yeah mate they might be well over 100tonnes but its beer, it's far more important than rides, and they and most other things that australia needs takes priority on the road. And Rich, there is a future, im just saying that the new rides that owners buy, will either be used or co-owned with other operators. Like with O'Neills and Wittingslow. O'Neills would operate most of Wittingslows rides in sydney, I know that Ranger and Rainbow were both co-owned, until O'Neills bought the two rides from wittingslow in 2002. The Crazy Mouse is owned by Tpa and Fjf Amusements, I'm not quite sure where FJF operate it, but Tpa operate it most of the time. I'm just saying we wont be seeing large thrill rides, like Topspin, Maurer & Sohne FreeFall Tower, TopScan or some other big attractions because of cost, size and laws. chris p.s good topic, this is what I like talking bout p.p.s sorry wonder, I thought it was dan, lol and it wasnt rubbish

[joz]

Do O'neils (and the other traveling ride companies) have any other interests in the shows, such as a percentage of gate takings, their own food vans or anything like that?

[Richard]

Please use appropriate capital letters and punctuation, HussRainbow, as per the Community Guidelines. You're almost there, just need more capital letters and apostrophes here and there. So Australian roads can handle 100 tonnes when it's something "more important"? When it's amusement rides what, do the roads collapse? Show me some state laws and I'll gladly believe you, but until then, your argument is just opinion, because I assure you that there's not much that can't be taken on Australian roads. Larger loads might need permits, escorts etc., but that's not the point here.

[Slick]

While not exactly revelant, I once met the guy who owned NZ's only moveable rollercoaster, a Galaxy coaster obviously. Nice guy.... wait, gotta go.....

[Bussy]

Obviously. Another insightful post by Slick. "The Bus is now leaving for Whatmough Park, Victoria"

[HussRainbow]

Lol, well I actually haven't seen the road laws from amusement rides in Australia, but I have been told by several carnival operators, what rides aren't allowed here because I heard some owners have inquired about rides from overseas Chris

[Gazza]

Can someone answer my question in regards to the manufacturer of spin dragon? also, who says a top spin has to be Huss? maybe other manufacturers have smaller/lighter/cheaper models avaliable. Tis may sound crazy but they could possibly make their own, or have Huss or whatever custom build one suitable.

[Shaun]

There are heaps of top spin type rides around. KMG make a 1 trailer model and I think it's arms can even spin independently like on the wipeout. Spin dragon was a 1 trailer ride.......? I think it's was probaly built by fabbri but thats just a guess. Fabbri definetly make them. Even Mosser makes a transportable model. I've seen another small one too called a tsunami. The only thing is that these type of rides are high maintance and if you brought one you would want to buy a good one, that you trust and that is going to be reliable. See my website for links Amusement links

[Schwarz_freak]

To stop this argument about weight limits I found this. http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/heavyvehicles/do...mass_limits.pdf It shows the limits on weight in N.S.W.

[HussRainbow]

Spin Dragon is indeed manufactured by Fabbri. It was a shame that it crashed. I'm just glad I got to ride it, it was a fairly cool ride. Also, Huss' Topspin is massive, and very impressive, even though videos don't do it justice, i'd love to see one in person in Germany! that would be fantastic chris