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More pieces in place. These were from earlier today during the Parkchat viewers meet, so there may be a few familiar faces (or figures lol) in them.

Sorry if there's any double ups from the last lot shared by @themagician, it's hard to keep track of what's been covered and what hasn't. But yeah. Enjoy guys 👍

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Still waiting for a support to be installed here lol:

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The brake run at the station:

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Looking amazing from a distance ❤️

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On 05/05/2017 at 7:43 AM, thunder001 said:

Bottom of lift hill?

Could we be getting an almost 90 degree drop on this coaster, going from the footing in the left of picture (assuming it is the last of the lift hill/first in drop) that does not leave a lot of area to get from 200Ft+ down to those two supports.

I should say though this will be the first coaster of this size I have seen, so maybe someone who has ridden something of similar height overseas may be able to comment on this for me. 

Earlier in this thread id was mentioned that the angles of the poles give it away. The main poles are the ones on the right, they go all the way up to the connector plate to the track. The main pole will take the brunt of the energy from the train, so the train will be moving left - to - right, meaning this part is for the track just before it turns away from the road and heads back towards the station.

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12 minutes ago, Theme Park Girl said:

 

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I love seeing this pic, not just for how good this coaster is looking but seeing the crowd of people watching the construction. If Movie World was smart they'd be capitalising on this interest from the general public rather than being as silent as they are.

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40 minutes ago, Cactus_Matt said:

I love seeing this pic, not just for how good this coaster is looking but seeing the crowd of people watching the construction. If Movie World was smart they'd be capitalising on this interest from the general public rather than being as silent as they are.

That crowd of people is a group of enthusiasts there specifically to look at the construction progress. 

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1 hour ago, djrappa said:

I think that's pretty obvious

 

20 minutes ago, jack.c said:

Really? It looks like they're protesting the construction to me! 

Yes, but the post I was referring to was implying that was the interest from the general public which enthusiasts are, but in this case it wasn't a random occurrence.

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A few more track pieces were installed after @Theme Park Girl update (great photos by the way), and is now starting to head up towards, but I imagine (by the placement of the footings) will be the corkscrew element of the coaster, as seen on The Flash. 

23 hours ago, Ryande16 said:

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And along with this, I also noticed that a few supports hadn't already been installed before the track.

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Something I also want to have, and this is just a thought, based off the remaining footings in this area, and I now do believe there will be a massive loop (like Flash), and will be in this part:

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My reasoning is because of the footings surrounding the installed track, the distance between some, and for me, nothing else makes sense yet.

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And this piece is outside of the fence, meaning the support coming from it would be tall, so this would go to one of the higher points of the loop

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 A few pieces of track that will make up the brake run have been installed and although not clear in the picture one piece on the end starts to curve into what presumably will be a 'U' shape that will lead into the station. 

Edit: I didn't realise @Theme Park Girl already posted pictures of this, sorry. Furthermore, I realise both TPG's pictures and mine look the same but I can assure everyone these are my pics. 

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26 minutes ago, themagician said:

Thanks for this higher quality image, that sharp twisting piece is 42.

I think you may have just ruled out the common theory of a (standard) loop immediately before the stengel - first piece of the current track is 49.

The twisty track appears much like it would be found in a zero-g roll, although I wonder if we just might get a non-inverting loop - that footing outside the fence makes me think something really tall is going in that area. @joz did say there's a couple of big changes not yet guessed :P

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Big post here. Sorry (not sorry). I feel like this week's construction (and forums posts) have been coming thick and fast, so I wanted to respond to various posts in the one thread.

Monday:

This image by @themagician (who visited the park almost daily and uploaded many pics - thanks!) of piece 66 is part of the diving turn, for those playing jigsaw. Remember, @rummyplaced piece 53 at the top of the Stengel Dive.

Tuesday:

@themagician posted this comment about @docoaster marrying installed and projected track (into the s-bend track), which prompted me to revisit their entry in the Design the Coaster comp. I noticed they used the foundations to suggest the next element in the forward direction of the coaster was a zero-g roll. I was not expecting assembly to progress that far this week so I was prepared to wait and see next week if @docoaster was going to be right. I was busy with work & family over the next few days, and didn't check the forums much.

Wednesday:

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This image by @Theme Park Girl - was the first time I longed to see the train in motion of the track (turns out to be one of many pic updates from you this week, thanks!). The curve had me feeling like this.

Thursday:

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@themagician posted the above pic, very similar to @Theme Park Girl's, but with progress showing the track now joined to the top of the turnaround. A perfect photo. GIF made below with pink - sorry the generator didn't have a 'magenta' option.

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Another from @themagician was this:

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I measured the middle piece of track to about a 135 degree rotation - meaning either an overbanked turn or part of the zero-g roll. The mounting point might help explain - honestly I'm not sure myself. [edit - turns out it's neither!]

Friday:

@Skeeta posted a pic by TPSN, and @themagician posted something similar:
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This is an angle I really want to photo/video the train moving towards camera. themagician also posted piece 81, but with 61 being part of the turnaround's dive, this must be going in well after the s-bend, maybe the last piece of the left-hander under the top of the Stengel Dive. themagician also posted this image - it looks to be the rest of twisty the element they posted on Thursday. I am in agreement with @xRazzBerryx - @docoaster's zero-g prediction looks about right.

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@Ryande16 then goes on to post what I was thinking, albeit calling it a corkscrew.

Today, Saturday:

@Theme Park Girl posts more awesome pics - the crowd shot especially. I want to stand right there on its' first day and watch for an hour. Then @themagician posts this angle:

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I must again respond with my matrix gif. Such a good piece of track - and it's not one even of the main elements!

 

3 hours ago, rummy said:

I think you may have just ruled out the common theory of a (standard) loop immediately before the stengel - first piece of the current track is 49.

The twisty track appears much like it would be found in a zero-g roll, although I wonder if we just might get a non-inverting loop - that footing outside the fence makes me think something really tall is going in that area. @joz did say there's a couple of big changes not yet guessed :P

The train will most likely have completed only one (two at the most) airtime hill by the time it reaches this area, will it be carrying too much speed to execute a non-inverting loop? Seeing as though Soaring with Dragons in China does it straight after a LSM launch, perhaps not..? 42 is part of a non-inverted loop...?!?!??!??

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30 minutes ago, Glubbo said:

The train will most likely have completed only one (two at the most) airtime hill by the time it reaches this area, will it be carrying too much speed to execute a non-inverting loop? Seeing as though Soaring with Dragons in China does it straight after a LSM launch, perhaps not..?

As with everything, depends how big the loop is.

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@Glubbo I was thinking something along the lines of this:

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It's just a vague guess based on a couple of little things:

  • The footings around the area indicate something tall, many of them appear too 'alone' to be part of the helix-looking cluster of footings. A zero-g would be too far back from the Stengel for many of these footings to be of use.
  • The twisty track twists left. If you look at the footing placement a theoretical loop would transfer right. Non-inverting loops with left-transfer roll to the right at the top, right-transfer loops roll left.
  • Additionally, with the track rolling left a theoretical zero-g would transfer slightly to the left. While possible, it's hard to see how this would work with the footings. Also, a zero-g would presumably have to be rather high to compensate for speed and there's not a whole lot of room in a straight line there.


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Just including @docoaster's satellite overlay to explain my thinking with the footings. In the yellow and blue you can see the theoretical right-transfer loop. The red on the far left could be a potential approach for a zero-g but considering the proximity to the first drop, and subsequently speed, this seems unlikely.

All this is very speculative, it's just that the twisty piece having the number 42 has really thrown a spanner in the works. I'm just racking my brain as to what kind of element would make sense of both the footings and track, and not having a whole lot of ideas. Exciting times ahead!

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Just to give a rough idea of how long they have 👍 That timer is set for 3am Wednesday 20th September 😎

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23 minutes ago, red dragin said:

September is not that far away anymore.

Track would need to be in place well before then to allow for the station and landscaping to be completed in time. 

I figured that's why they installed the brake run the other day to get most of the electrical sorted possibly before the track is complete 👍

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Among enthusiasts a non-inverting loop sounds great, but would the general public make some kind of negative connection between that and Buzzsaw?

They're completely different but both feature a twist at the top off a loop.

 

@rummy, my zero-g roll comments have been in regard to the area after the s-bend and left turn currently going in. I incorrectly attributed part 42 to this roll.

We're all talking about two elements in roughly the same spot, albeit one outbound and one inbound. Your coloured dots image show these two as magenta and yellow dotted zones.

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@Glubbo I had originally been thinking zero-g myself for those twisted parts so that's why the part number surprised me so much! :lol: Anytime I look at them I see zero-g but the clues are telling me maybe not, definitely very keen to see what happens among that area!

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