Parkz News 266 Report post Posted November 1, 2016 The plausible scenario in which Dreamworld closes permanently Though sensationalised reports in the media suggested that Dreamworld may never reopen, the park will likely resume business in the near future. The unprecedented accident on its Thunder River Rapids ride however, could set into motion the theme park's sale or eventual closure. Click here to continue reading Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad2912 2,323 Report post Posted November 1, 2016 Good article Richard. I see selling as a distinct possibility, maybe to Wanda or another operator looking to enter the Australian market. There is no doubt the park will be worth less in 6-12 months than it was worth 8 days ago, and the value will likely continue to drop until a significant capital expenditure occurs to draw crowds back. With Ardents focus on ME in the US, I can't see them persisting with any significant investment in a business that is seeing attendances & consumer confidence drop. DW is prime for the picking imo.. and Ardent pay just decide the best idea is to get through the current investigation, let some time pass, and then cut & run and let someone else try and restore the park to its glory Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Santa07 1,009 Report post Posted November 1, 2016 (edited) I think that this article can be extended to the GC theme park industry in general, I'm sure attendance will drop all-round. Even one of my friends says he doesn't want to go to theme parks any more due to DW's incident (although surprisingly all my other friends understand the safety measures that the park does put in play). (of course, I don't expect the second part of the article to apply all-round, just the bit on the attendance being affected) Edited November 1, 2016 by Santa07 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BNErider 94 Report post Posted November 1, 2016 (edited) Good one Richard. I think this is the perfect time for someone to swoop in, claim "under new management" and invest some serious money on the place. Oh, and I reckon they could, just maybe, get a nice little discount if things for DW aren't looking up soon. Edited November 1, 2016 by ash.1111 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ashhole157 72 Report post Posted November 1, 2016 Six Flags Australia anyone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Intimidator305. 59 Report post Posted November 1, 2016 Well, they're considering building in Vietnam and there was one in holland and holland only has a population of 16.8 million so why not? Just kidding Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joz 1,897 Report post Posted November 1, 2016 Has anyone mentioned Merlin? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexB 3,442 Report post Posted November 1, 2016 No, but you have @joz! Not a bad idea either considering the lego store construction - its a question of whether they'd want to take over a brand suffering so badly with its reputation right now... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themagician 2,671 Report post Posted November 1, 2016 Obviously this had major effected the park, but I don't think we will no the full effect it has had until the park reopens, and the summer holidays arrive. I'd like to think that a lot of locals will show their support to the park, which I will be. But until the usual January madness at the park arrives, I think that will give the true indication have much this incident has effected the park. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skeeta 2,101 Report post Posted November 1, 2016 (edited) I don’t know if the land would be worth 250 million to developers. The Queensland government current land value is 135 million. If the land was changed from its current use to something else, then I would be surprised if Ardent got anymore then the undeveloped value of the site. Unless you are saying the developers would make 250 million. I thought Ardent sold the other block of land which is around 1/5 of what’s left for 10 million. I do agree that Ardent do have stormy seas ahead. I suppose it just depends on how big Ardent's boat is and how long it can take a battering. Edited November 1, 2016 by YLFATEEKS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MaxxTheMonster 472 Report post Posted November 2, 2016 1 hour ago, themagician said: I'd like to think that a lot of locals will show their support to the park, which I will be. But until the usual January madness at the park arrives, I think that will give the true indication have much this incident has effected the park. Little Mr 4yo asked last night if we can go to Dreamworld soon... He is now tall enough for a whole new bunch of rides... We told him he has to wait a little while but when we can we will head there... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richard 871 Report post Posted November 2, 2016 A few clarifications to the article in terms of various values. Of interest is the added Credit Suisse estimates of $9 and $14m EBITDA for the coming financial years. That's would be a $50m loss to Ardent Leisure against if this incident hadn't occurred. The thoughts of Ardent Leisure 'doubling down' on this loss to properly redevelop and revitalise that whole section of the park is almost illogical from a financial view. @YLFATEEKS Ardent Leisure's carrying value for Dreamworld's land and assets is $235m. I've updated the article to reflect these figures. If we're picking and choosing potential buyers, Merlin strikes me as a more likely candidate. They have a presence in Australia and a long history of acquisition. Is Dreamworld the sort of asset that Wanda would want to work with when their current modus operandi is to build from scratch? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Themeparkfan 18 Report post Posted November 2, 2016 I like the idea of merlin being a potential buyer they have been heavily investing in Australia of late. I really hope dreamworld try's to turn their bad luck around and the park eventually gets back on its feet wether that be with a new owner or not I just hope it doesn't become a victim to blood sucking property investors like Australia's Wonderland Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexB 3,442 Report post Posted November 2, 2016 I can agree with everything you said - except the blood sucking property investors bit. Not true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pin142 662 Report post Posted November 3, 2016 Can't really see the property investors being as much of an issue here as the case with Wonderland. For starters the area is not exactly already somewhat built up. There also isn't the whole interchange of two major motorways next to the park. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gold Coast Amusement Force 392 Report post Posted November 6, 2016 On 01/11/2016 at 6:27 PM, ashhole157 said: Six Flags Australia anyone? You read my mind Share this post Link to post Share on other sites