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Village theme parks extended trading hours

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^Yeah, was just at USS, where they did something similar. The park was due to open at 10 am and they let people in at 9.45. The Lost World was due to open at 11am, but we got there at 10.45 to see the rope drop for that area.

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5 hours ago, AlexB said:

Seriously now - are you still butt hurt about my discussion regarding the status of AW as (not) a theme park? My friend, we're going to have to disagree.

Calling someone a bully every time you don't like what they're saying is not a way to get on in life - and certainly with your advanced years, i'd have thought you would have learned that by now.

Consider Tim - who I figure is probably about half your age - and I can have quite robust discussions about AW, and still get along just fine - hence why my comment was in a line of conversation originating from his comments relating to AW and FF. Nothing was ever said to you - and yet here you are, white knighting again.

I don't currently have 'crew' status - not because I don't wish to contribute, but simply because every year it expires because I don't get reminders to renew it, and then I never get around to paying it again. I don't expect different treatment from Parkz just because I've contributed something financial to the running of the site. The benefits of crew membership are clearly outlined on the site - and neither I nor anyone else should expect any different. Regardless, I support Parkz, and its predecessors, for the work that they do, have done, and continue to do, and have done so for many years - and respect that in this privately operated site - their word is final.

There was robust discussions on these forums in the few weeks I was enjoying the holiday break, and clearly, I missed out on some fun to be had, as the discussions were removed, hidden, or censored. Clearly, these crossed a line so that the moderators felt action was required. I've been the subject of such censorship in the past, indeed when I crossed a line, and was immediately contacted by private message by the moderator \ Richard to explain the reasons why, to help me recognise where the line is, and for that, I appreciated it. I note this as this is the same action that Richard stated in response to the recent discussions that occurred.

On the other hand, I note that my comment above, which has apparently been taken the way it was intended by everyone but you, remains. This is a fairly good indication that no line has been crossed, and the butt hurt you are exhibiting is completely off-base and uncalled for.

If I have ever personally offended you directly by my words or actions, I apologise - but if you're going to continue to be offended any time I don't hold up your state or your local park to the highest standards - you really need to evaluate whats important in your life. State versus State rivalry is big in this country (or - at least on the east coast). WA are our poor western cousins frequently referred to as 3 hours (and 10 years) behind (and yes - even Tim has referred to WA in this manner).

Frankly, if you're lacking the competitive nature that drives one to pour shit on another state for their shortcomings, and to give as good as you get without calling for the PC Police to arrest someone for bullying and harassing you on the internet, that's...

That's just unAustralian.

Just say your   a west coast eagles fan.

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10 hours ago, Brad2912 said:

I remember Gold Rush at Wonderland didn’t open until an hour after the park opened from memory. Everyone used to be waiting next to the parachute drop (name escapes me at the moment) in the tunnel for the rope drop 

Skyhawk, and towards the end - the great balloon race.

Wonderland gates would open at 10am, and All rides would open at the same time - which would usually see people running around the lake to be the first to get to probe, demon, etc. HBL would open at 10, but you'd regularly see ride ops walking up the hill just after 10, and still beat the first guest into the area.

Goldrush always opened at 11, with the rides opening at the same time. Unlike the rest of the park, Security did walk the rope down the path, so guests usually wouldn't reach Bush Beast or Snowy until at least 11:05, and likewise, rides were still in their operator 'test cycle' as guests walked down the path - which actually gave the area some kinetic energy and encouraged people to stop at those rides instead of all piling onto beast and snowy.

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I feel Movieworld has dropped the ball on these entry opens. I am a local so I will return, but last week I went to Dreamworld and they opened at 9. At 8:45 they started letting people into the park, stopping them at the initial entry. At 9:00 the barriers came down and everyone was in. Today we went to Movieworld and they waited until 9:30 and opened the ticket window. After getting our onepass renewed we were then forced to queue at the very entry, right near the Movieworld entry until 9:40. Mind you, half of these people haven't had their bags checked, so it's a large security issue. At 9:40 they opened the initial entry, people flooded in and then entry was cut off to 10. I headed straight to Scooby, which had a "delayed entry". I understand Movieworld is busier than Dreamworld, but frankly the guest experience at Dreamworld was far better.

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Well Dreamworld opens at 9 (currently) and MW at 9:30 (rides at 10) so not sure why you expected anything different? 

As for the “security issue” as only half the people had their bags checked... why is this a security issue? What % of bags are checked when you go to a shopping centre? The cinema? Theatre? Exhibition centre? Yep ... zero.

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Well I'm talking about the fact that there is such a concentration of people in such a small space, so from a fire exit perspective and security issue it is clearly a problem. 

I'm also not saying I was expecting different, merely commenting on the initial experience, from herded sheep to lots of space.

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I don’t see any issue with fire exits or security on current procedures. 

Fire exits, measure and routes are all independently audited 

you mentioned a large security issue is not having every bag checked - I’m asking why you believe that 

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27 minutes ago, Brad2912 said:

I don’t see any issue with fire exits or security on current procedures. 

Fire exits, measure and routes are all independently audited 

you mentioned a large security issue is not having every bag checked - I’m asking why you believe that 

What I meant was that half of the attendees weren't even at the security checkpoint yet. So it was quite a crowd. I don't believe Movieworld should check every bag, that's not feasible, I'm just explaining how I felt the experience was this morning and suggesting an earlier entry would have been a little smoother.

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29 minutes ago, Gold Coast Amusement Force said:

Movie world are bad at crowd flow management. Dreamworld are good at it.

 

Not really its just the park layouts.

Dreamworld's is is a loop.

Movieworld is t-shaped with 2 dead ends.

Which would have better crowd flow and be easier to manage?

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12 hours ago, Lukevl said:

I don't believe Movieworld should check every bag, that's not feasible

There are many theme parks the world over who handle much bigger crowds than Movie World that are capable of checking every bag. Some even put people through metal detectors.

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Comes back to other parks being able to handle crowds better than Movie World does. Park layout can't be used as an excuse for entry gate speed especially when bag checks are involved. Most US parks you pass through a metal detector and bag check then move on to ticket/pass scan. Two separate checkpoints with security being the slowest. Some parks have even looked at speeding it up by x-ray scanning bags.

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