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Jamberoo Action Park reveal ~$7 Million 'Grand Gorge Falls' & 'Koala Kove'!

'Grand Gorge Falls' & 'Koala Kove'  

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  1. 1. What do you think of 'Grand Gorge Falls'?

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  2. 2. What do you think of 'Koala Kove'?

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  3. 3. What do you think this will mean for 'Surf Hill'?

    • They will keep it - 2 versions is always better - less queues, different experience etc.
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    • They will get rid of it eventually - 2 of the nearly same thing is odd plus it is nearly 2 decades old
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Here is the landscape plan (colour version):

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Grand Gorge Falls' 8-Lane Octokraken Racer:

  • "With an overall ride length of approximately 160 metres and an elevational drop of 21.59 metres, this combination racer will be the largest of its type installed to date"(assuming that is still the case in summer 2020)
  • "approximately five metres below the natural ground level"

The general Grand Gorge Falls area is themed to gorges "such as Kings Canyon, Katherine Gorge and Finke Gorge / Palm Valley".

Grand Gorge Falls' SkyBox Multi-Bump Speed Slides:

  • "only one and three metres above natural ground level"

Koala Kove:

  • "This waterplay zone provides a wet deck approximately 25 metres long and 15 metres wide"

It is anticipated, according to the DA, that Jamberoo Action Park "...will experience a slight increase in numbers in the short term, but in the medium to long term the owners aim to achieve sustained visitor numbers in line with current attendance rates"

Some other interesting quotes from the DA:

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With respect to key planning considerations, the following is noted:

- The general height of the development ranges between 5.5m above natural ground surface to 9.5m. The roof height of the ‘take-off’ towers are approx. 11m above natural ground surface.

- The new Koala Cove is proposed to be located about 125m from the Jamberoo Road boundary with the take off towers for the new waterslides being located about 220m from the Jamberoo Road Boundary.

The proposal includes only minor clearing of trees, all of which were planted by the owners of the property in recent years.

It is proposed to landscape the finished development with endemic and ecologically appropriate plant species with low irrigation and maintenance requirements.

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Justification for the proposal is provided as follows:

5. The proposal being for the replacement of existing / aging facilities is not an expansion of the park and the proposal will not itself increase the capacity of the park with respect to the potential number of daily visitors / attendees.

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Visual Impacts

The part of the site affected by the proposal is central to the existing theme park and within a section of the site that is already developed. The rides will not be more visible from public vantage points external to the site compared to existing development. It must be recognised that the theme park is in existence and any impacts on the surrounding rural landscape have already taken place. This proposal is not expected to impact upon the visual amenity of the area.

The DA mentions these new replacements as part of "Master Plan 2016". This very likely refers to Jamberoo Action Park's hints to a newly proposed $6.5 million large major custom-designed hybrid world-first ride back in 2017. 

Clearly, Jamberoo Action Park defines 'hybrid' differently.

So what does everything think?

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Jamberoo never disappoint, do they? If only Village could have learned from what they're doing when they put WNWS together?

I must admit, I have fond memories of running up that long footpath to slide down those body slides that are  sunken into the surrounding earth. Simple fun, and a great way to burn off kids energy. Looks like the long path to get to these new slides will be just as arduous, but probably a little nicer to look at!

I was only showing my wife some Jamberoo attractions on youtube the other day, and these slides did come up in one of the videos. I must admit i'm a little sad to see them go, but excited for the next step in Jamberoo's development.

It is an interesting point about Surf Hill - which will probably become redundant as a result of the octo racer - but this is probably part of the master plan - creating a new multi slide racer elsewhere, clearing the way for surf hill to be removed and another attraction to take its place.

I haven't been to Jamberoo in a long time, and it's probably going to be a little longer before i get down there - but I am looking forward to it!

I guess at this point, one has to assume The Rock's days are numbered.

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These  plans are fantastic!! They highlight a huge commitment on the park to delivering excellent themed attractions for what is essentially a regional water park.  More power to them!

Couple this with the proposed Alpine Toboggan ride ( a ride which I have campaigned for Jamberoo attaining for a number of years now) and Jamberoo is set to take a huge leap in attractions and offerings.

My initial thoughts;

  • The concept art is absolutely stunning. This has to be a contender for the best themed water slide attraction in Australia.
  • Its great to see that the Park still has as part of its future plans a large action river, a water coaster and other slides as has been previously released in plan form
  • I must admit that I find the selection of ride and timing a little odd, however. My opinion is that it would have been more effective  ride lineup to forge ahead with their previous plans first.  Jamberoo has been accused in the past of doubling up on attractions and essentially the same experience (see Funnel Web and Perfect Storm) and installing an Octo racer slide alongside the existing Surf hill will probably do nothing to dispel these perceptions. As as been stated, obviously there must be plans afoot for the future of Surf Hill. It must also be said that racer slides are great crowd soaker attractions , and having both for the small to medium term wont hurt in terms of throughput.
  • I would like to see the proposed Alpine Toboggan built first as I think this attraction would be a great precursor to the new slide area. Australia has needed one of these Alpine  toboggans for quite a while and this will be a unique and first attraction for the Australian public. Hopefully this comes to fruition.
  • Whilst it is definitely a shame to see these 2 slides disappear, they were certainly "getting on in years" and very ripe for redevelopment. This is a great replacement for them, and hopefully  down the track, Surf Hill can be replaced with an updated similar body slide attraction in its memory.
  • 6 hours ago, AlexB said:

    I guess at this point, one has to assume The Rock's days are numbered.

    Looking at the plans, the Rock precinct seems to be untouched and still remains. I certainly hope this is retained as this is a fairly unique attraction for a water park and it is still massively popular with park patrons. Hopefully it will be around for a few more years .

  • In the wake of the WNW Sydney rebrand and rename to Raging Waters and its announcement of its new water slide Whirlwind, this is the perfect response by Jamberoo. Isnt it funny how investment and competition is a direct driver of more investment? This is great for NSW, as we can definitely support these 2 parks easily. 

  • The attention to detail on this looks really on point and if it comes to fruition as planned, must be the benchmark for Australian water parks. WNW Gold Coast, Funfields, Adventure Park and Raging Waters please take note!

  • We visit Jamberoo every year in February with about 8-10 families. This will be a welcome expansion and my kids are already excited at the prospect of it. Bring it on!!

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This is great. Jamberoo really does pull off the theming aspect really well for a water park. This just sends it to the next level. Those that have ridden the perfect storm will understand. It will be sad to see the outdated original body slides leave but they actually do cause injuries in their old age.

Surf hill. Oh, how I won't miss you. I am slightly heavy meaning I haul ass along this slide and by the time I get to the second "drop" I am flying through the air and usually crashing back into the lane feeling pretty winded even tho I am laughing uncontrollably. I will say tho with this slide being removed it also means a tunnel aspect to the lazy river will be lost. So I see them shutting down surf hill after this season if that's the case.

An alpine coaster would suit Jamberoo perfectly. Those that haven't ever had the chance to visit just don't understand how steep this mountain is. The toboggans are great, but they are in need of some TLC and well after crashing many many times over the years one does not like to try his luck on these anymore. The alpine coaster would be a great addition and a real "feather in the cap" for Jamberoo.

I really hope they keep the rock. This is one of those old school water park attractions that you just don't find anywhere else in Aus.

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honustly im disappointed because as a child I loved going on  the splash out with my family never and it was one of many of the first rides there my antsy remembers when she first went there and the newest thing was the slide and she said she loved it and she still dose to this day she is going to be so sad to find out this news. When I found out I actually cried because it's am awsome ride in my opinion I state we should leave it how it is we all hate wating ik long lines for things true ?? Everyone can agree with me on that and building something like this will just attract more people and it's damaging our environment more than all the chlorine that's already in that ground area. And not to meantion it's a wage of money like what is it 7 MILLION dollars we would get more ppl coming to us and coining to our grounds if we out the money to good use such as helping the poor or the ones in need. The people who are loosing loved ones. Overall I think it's a bad idea. 

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I know people get upset about attractions going. I was upset then the go-karts got taken away. Heck, when the speed boats went that was bad. But they did replace those attractions with better attractions. So we all have fond memories.

But the park pulls its weight when it comes to making its own money. Yes, some things have been state and local government funded but it does bring tourism to the region and generates jobs within the Albion park / Kiama region. Youll find the park complies with environmental regulations so I wouldn't be terribly worried about the chlorine etc. The one thing this park do is they don't try to change the topography of the land and that's a massive plus. I suppose they can't help it because it is built on the side of two mountains and stuck in a gully.

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18 hours ago, Jobe said:

I certainly hope this is retained as this is a fairly unique attraction for a water park

For Australia, maybe, but i've seen several 'the rock' style attractions at international water parks - although they are quite old now, obviously. Honestly i'm surprised it has survived this long with all the other modern attractions that have sprung up around it.

10 hours ago, StingRay said:

I am flying through the air and usually crashing back into the lane feeling pretty winded even tho I am laughing uncontrollably.

#MeToo

9 hours ago, Alyssa said:

Everyone can agree with me on that

Probably the only thing we'll agree with you on.

9 hours ago, StingRay said:

I know people get upset about attractions going.

I know right? get rid of the wave pool and bring back the lattice maze!

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23 hours ago, AlexB said:

I guess at this point, one has to assume The Rock's days are numbered.

16 hours ago, Jobe said:

I must admit that I find the selection of ride and timing a little odd, however. My opinion is that it would have been more effective  ride lineup to forge ahead with their previous plans first. 

On 09/07/2019 at 8:07 PM, Jamberoo Fan said:

It is anticipated, according to the DA, that Jamberoo Action Park "...will experience a slight increase in numbers in the short term, but in the medium to long term the owners aim to achieve sustained visitor numbers in line with current attendance rates"

This is my theory:

As Jamberoo has stated, their attendance is declining & they do not expect this new investment to significantly increase attendance permanently. I'd say this is due to the 'water park' model reaching market saturation hence the lack of investment at major water parks in recent years. Water parks are not as in demand as before as they are too many of them. Kangaroo Island was proposed about a decade ago to handle additional capacity and this recent announcement is not about adding additional capacity. This recent announcement is about a shift from an 'expansion' strategy to a 'rejuvenation' strategy. They are replacing their current attractions with more modern versions of them (see dot points below). They are moving with the times. The Alpine Coaster though could also be a reaction to the 'water park' saturation by shifting back to regular dry ride/attraction investment.

  • Bobsled > Alpine Coaster
  • Splash Out body slides > 2 SkyBox Multi-Bump Speed Slides
  • Surf Hill > 8-Lane Octokraken Racer
  • Splash Out pools > Koala Kove

Koala Kove also features mushrooms (though not as large as the ones at The Rock). It may be that Koala Kove is also a replacement for the mushroom pool area of The Rock. This could indicate The Rock may be up for redevelopment but The Rock area is a pretty unique part of Jamberoo (probably either it's most or 2nd most well known attraction even if it is not just as popular as the Bobsleds) and it fits in with the soon to be added gorge theming in it's neighbouring site so I doubt they would remove it completely - maybe an upgrade involving a reduction down to only the jump area soon & maybe that will also be the final water ride upgrade of Jamberoo? Upgrades for the rest of the water rides (apart from the ones mentioned below) are either too soon, too costly or not needed.

If my 'rejuvenate instead of expansion' theory is correct, this could mean Billabong Beach can be made redundant by the already operating Banjo's Billabong and/or the future Koala Kove while Rapid River can be made redundant with the proposed Platypus River, which should be the next ride built after Grand Gorge Falls/Koala Kove. Platypus River is featured (but not mentioned) on the plans above so they are still thinking about implementing it. Platypus River was initially just to accompany Rapid River in the park but to service the Kangaroo Island area with it's additional capacity. Clearly, that role is currently not needed as the attendance is not high enough.

With water park market saturation & with Surf Hill's future now in question, this makes the whole Rapid River/Billabong Beach/Surf Hill area most likely redundant with replacements built elsewhere in the park possibly by summer 2021. Maybe Jamberoo are planning to remove this area in the future then?

However, upgrading rides alone won't increase attendance - a point of difference does. Grand Gorge Falls, whilst having some similarity to Surf Hill, I think does this with it's grand scale & theming. If completed in summer 2020, it will be Jamberoo's most significant investment to date regardless of price tag/ride type. I mean, look how large it is! Look how well themed it is! If you know the size of Splash Out, well you know how large this is going to be. It will be larger than what it seems to look in the artist impressions (most accurate to give you a sense of it's size is probably the 'View From South' impression). It will be towering. I feel Jamberoo may underestimate how great this investment will be. It may increase attendance on the theming alone. And that will send a big message if that happened! Kangaroo Island's theming hasn't come to full fruition yet (though I expect it will mostly when Platypus River is built) but Grand Gorge Falls' theming, if approved & built on time, will be and I'm confident it will be one of the most aesthetic water park rides in Australia (though they are not many to choose from). Theming wins big here.

This is the opposite of the problem with The Perfect Storm, which, whilst having unique & brilliant narratives/theming, had it's colour scheme nearly identical to Funnel Web, which is located right next to it. Worse than that, it was the next major attraction after Funnel Web to open. They looked too alike & too soon. Grand Gorge Falls & Surf Hill won't get mixed up with their contrasting theming & near 20 year gap between opening dates and we all know which of the two will capture the public's imagination from now on.

Remember, this is only a theory. It may be completely incorrect.

9 hours ago, StingRay said:

I will say tho with this slide being removed it also means a tunnel aspect to the lazy river will be lost.

I think the tunnel will remain - it just will not have a slide on it if Surf Hill is removed. You can see in this photo that Surf Hill & the tunnel are separate particularly since they need piping for the tunnel's waterfall. However, as stated above, maybe they plan to remove Rapid River too and shift it to the proposed Platypus River?

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19 hours ago, Alyssa said:

And not to meantion it's a wage of money like what is it 7 MILLION dollars we would get more ppl coming to us and coining to our grounds if we out the money to good use such as helping the poor or the ones in need. The people who are loosing loved ones.

I didn't mention this on the Parkz Forums a few months ago but Jamberoo Action Park recently hosted a 1 day charity concert called Take Action:

They raised money for farmers but I doubt it provided a long term attendance boost for the park. Probably just a boost for the 1 day. It was the first concert hosted at the park in a long time (maybe 2 decades?) and was promoted locally.

Good corporate social responsibility.

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