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New Roller-Coaster for Dreamworld

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Well that is great news and if it does set to cost that much, that is a great investment from the park that will hopefully pay off. And if it does indeed open late next year, that will be good competition against SW with their new coaster. Lets hope DW get something never before seen in Australia.

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2 hours ago, Skeeta said:

So…………………………………………………………………………………….. (long, long pause)

 

 

This has appeared in Parkz theme park database as an announced ride.

What do we think this steel coaster would be and what do you get for $20m?

 

https://www.parkz.com.au/parks/AU/Gold_Coast/Dreamworld/ride/4313-Unknown_Steel_Roller_Coaster

 

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Hahaha as if that will happen, most likley a small kids ride at the most🤨

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Could be an S&S or maybe even a Vekoma. Lech Coaster was only 4.36M Euros, keeping in mind that it's an internal European project and how cheap construction costs would be in Poland compared to here. Just a thought though.

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14 hours ago, Thrill Seeker said:

Hahaha as if that will happen, most likley a small kids ride at the most🤨

I am usually the first person to express doubt at rumours and unconfirmed information, but the one thing i've learned is that if it's posted 'officially' by Parkz, you can bet the info has been reliably confirmed.

That doesn't mean it can't change down the track of course, but as it stands the info would appear to be fairly reliable.

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27 minutes ago, AlexB said:

I am usually the first person to express doubt at rumours and unconfirmed information, but the one thing i've learned is that if it's posted 'officially' by Parkz, you can bet the info has been reliably confirmed.

That doesn't mean it can't change down the track of course, but as it stands the info would appear to be fairly reliable.

I agree Alex_The_B_Man.  Parkz don't add things for the popular vote.  On the other hand we have known DW to be working on a project and pull out. 

14 hours ago, AllegroCrab said:

Could be an S&S or maybe even a Vekoma. 

After the GL disaster & DW killing people it would be wise for DW to stay away from S&S for now.

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There's no new major rides or attractions coming to Dreamworld after Sky Voyager

At the release of today's disappointing half-year results, Dreamworld's owners have pulled the plug on future expansion plans that were meant to total more than $50 million.

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Image: Parkz. Sky Voyager is yet to open some two months after its expected December launch.

Ardent Leisure have signalled that there will be no new major attractions for Dreamworld following the awaited launch of Sky Voyager. The theme park will instead focus on "capital-light" entertainment and reducing their footprint through land redevelopment.

In a move that signals the end of Dreamworld's supposed recovery plan that was to include in excess of $50 million spent on rides and attractions to revitalise the stagnating theme park, Ardent Leisure have announced that there are no new major attractions on their way despite more slumps in attendance and further losses.

There's no other major attractions coming online at Dreamworld.

Darren Harper, Ardent Leisure Chief Financial Officer, February 22, 2019


Sky Voyager was planned for opening in December 2018 but is still yet to open and Ardent Chairman Gary Weiss was conspicuously vague about when this attraction will finally launch. Dreamworld have gone completely dark on the ride with no new information provided since December.

For the six months to 25 December 2018 Dreamworld posted $12.4 million in losses off the back of $34.4 million in revenue, down marginally on $34.7 million for the corresponding period last year.

They spent a further $17.4 million on development capital expenditure at Dreamworld in the six month period – costs largely associated with Sky Voyager.

They do however have high hopes for the attraction based on supposed "pent-up demand" for the attraction. There are currently 14 relevant post on Instagram for #skyvoyager.

Dreamworld are turning to "capital-light entertainment and events" instead of the major attractions they had previously announced or hinted at. Dreamworld has talked a multi-million dollar lazy river, a new roller-coaster-in-a-shed to replace Eureka Mounain, an amphitheatre has commenced construction in the former footprint of Thunder River Rapids and there are many other long-mooted attractions such as a revitalised Motocoaster.

"I think it's fair to the say Dreamworld haven't really engaged [the local market] with events and activities," said Dreamworld CEO John Osborne.

Competitors Village Roadshow Theme Parks run a successful calendar of events geared at locals including Fright Nights, White Christmas, Carnivale and Super Heroes & Super-Villains.

In the months after the Thunder River Rapids accident Dreamworld rebranded their Screamworld night events as Park After Dark and ran a series of them before they were scrapped completely, suggesting that they never delivered the expected financial outcome.

There is no apparent succession plan for the impending permanent removal of Wipeout or Tower of Terror II, two 20+ year old attractions of questionable reliability and with limited remaining lifespan.

Mr Osborne talked about how he sees potential for Dreamworld to be a world-class leisure precinct, but with no capital expenditure on the horizon and cost cutting now rampant there's little evidence to suggest that this will ever happen. 

"We've put in place an annual expense reduction that will reduce expenses by $5 million each year," said Mr Osborne.

The newly appointed CEO believes that Dreamworld can deliver this world-class theme park experience "on a much smaller footprint", with eyes firmly on excess and under-utilised land for non-theme park redevelopment.

With attendance slumped yet again, $20-odd million sunk into a new attraction that is simply not swaying the public, and a retreat from all future capital expenditure, Dreamworld have gone from having a bad plan – hinged on attractions like simulators and lazy rivers that simply can't captivate the wider public or change Dreamworld's narrative – to having no plan at all.

hmm. well, who is right and who is wrong??? Dreamworld (Ardent) or Parkz??

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3 minutes ago, Thrill Seeker said:

hmm. well, who is right and who is wrong??? Dreamworld (Ardent) or Parkz??

Wasn't this article posted at the beginning of the year, though? In May, John Osbourne announced that there was indeed two new attractions coming to the park - well after they said nothing was happening. 

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3 minutes ago, Flynn_Smith said:

Wasn't this article posted at the beginning of the year, though? In May, John Osbourne announced that there was indeed two new attractions coming to the park - well after they said nothing was happening. 

John Osbourne announced that because his idea of shaded sitting was way off.

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16 minutes ago, Thrill Seeker said:

hmm. well, who is right and who is wrong??? Dreamworld (Ardent) or Parkz??

 

3 hours ago, AlexB said:

That doesn't mean it can't change down the track of course, but as it stands the info would appear to be fairly reliable.

Unless @Richard weighs in and advises whether the entry in the ride database predated the article you quoted, i'll sit with the Parkz info being correct.

 

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On 23/07/2019 at 4:43 PM, Skeeta said:

 

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For now I'm going to be taking this with a grain of salt until we either get an announcement or DA's popping up. But let's analyse.

$15-20 mil should on paper build a good Vekoma coaster. Or a Gerstlauer Infinity Coaster. An RMC woodie could be on the cards too as that would fit the budget, as is an RMC Raptor. S&S is also a possibility but the Green Lantern problems have probably scared Australian customers from buying their rides. Remember that this amount of money mentioned more than likely includes the shipping costs. It is most likely these four manufacturers are in the equation as it is highly unlikely Dreamworld are paying more than $15 million for a Eurofighter or Thunderbolt clone.

IMO it is safe to rule out Mack, Intamin or B&M. Mack is a fairly premium brand these days. Storm cost $20 million to build and that was five years ago. DC Rivals cost $30 million. Even the smaller Mack coasters like Icon and Copperhead Strike were expensive. B&M is even more expensive. You couldn't even buy a Batman clone with $20 million these days. I'd say a hyper is off the table at this stage too. $20 million can't buy you a hyper, if DC Rivals cost $30 million and barely passes what constitutes a hyper, $20 million wont get you anywhere near that.

This isn't a bad thing though. Vekoma have been making some solid rides lately and have some compelling layouts. Sure its no DC Rivals but it is probably on Superman's level I'd say.

On 24/07/2019 at 9:25 AM, Edward_marker said:

It better not be a Zamperla Thunderbolt or a Zac Spin coaster maintainance heavy and very rough. 

The Zacspins in Europe are apparently good rides from what I've heard. The reason why they have a bad reputation is because when Six Flags bought one they fucked around and modified the ride cars by adding weights to water down the intensity of the ride which resulted in exorbitant roughness. Also I'm fairly certain Intamin don't make these coasters anymore.

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