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I Think you may have missed what i meant.if theres a rule,follow it,thats all i meant.No, I'm saying go the speed limit (i.e. follow the rules). You're basically saying we should go that extra step and do 80 in a 100 zone, just to be extra safe.
Fair enough,i havent researched released media on it,if thats what the fact say i wont argue with that,i just heard different,Ive worked with the Engineers from Intamin,for months,and thats what i heard,i may have confused the location,It may have been a different Intamin Accelerator,but it occured..there was alot of downtime...whats released public and what occurs can sometimes be different things altogether,im not calling them liars either,its just what ive learnt along the way...there is another variation ive heard too,but i wont go into it because im probably not obliged to say anything or speculate on their behalf anything that would make the company look negligent,or the maintenance division concerned with the ride.I never heard anyhting about this..."caused by bolts holding the cable trough coming lose"..the cable is clamped at one end..and bolted to a winch at the other,but im not saying thats not what happened.Recheck your facts; the June 6, 2005 issue with Kingda Ka was caused by bolts holding the cable trough coming lose. It occured during a test run with no passengers and the reason it took two months to come back into operation was that Intamin had to fix what was a design flaw..
It kind of is if they allow it for some coasters and not other,depending on the specifics...so youre saying every ride at MW you can take on loose items apart from SE and LW?It's not a policy contradiction at all. For one every single ride at Movie World bar Superman Escape and Lethal Weapon operates in this manner.
I see your point there in full.It should be all or nothing.to be fair.I'm saying here that if a ride is one where lose items are taken on, the rider should be well within their right to press record on the camera they're holding in their hand anyway. -
Wouldnt that be like you getting pulled over for speeding and the cop getting in trouble...Youre made aware of the rules,public need to do their part as much as operations,if not,then its negligence.Duty of care at all times, with respects to the operation of any ride, is 100% in the hands of those charged with operating the ride. It doesn't matter where; it is the responsibility of the park and its employees to ensure that a given ride is operated in a safe manner.
Do it once and set a precedence,then every ones doing it,increase the numbers,you increase the chance of them being dropped..not every one may be as dextrous as you,for a film crew to legally ride and tape,it requires about half a roll of gaffa tape on his hand,so feel free to try and argue that one out with guest services,i still doubt theyd allow for it.If a ride's policy is that loose items are taken on with the rider, I see no logical or justifiable reason that they can't film the ride for their own personal use.
Thats a touch glib,coins getting stuck in brakes,your'e right,thats not too much of an issue,and probably not even all that likely,but remotely possible,then i suppose you have to look at the possible outcome if it did get stuck,then the risk creteated to the public,then finnally is it worth the risk....the whole lose money thing is more so a debris to harm bystanders issue.though...A coin in a launch track where a floating catchcar is shimmed to 0.2 of a mm..now thats an issue,especially when the coin is around 10 times the smallest tolerance..where is the coin going to go?Again,remote possibilitties.Again,worth the risk?Im sure people take coins on rides every day,and you hear few stories of bad nature,but rules are implemented usually in the best interest of every party,and ever so conciously toward the public...as i said,KingDaKa lost 8 weeks of operation and 60m of launch becuase of a set of keys...Coins getting stuck in brakes is up there with bolts coming loose on coaster wheels or restraints snapping in half. While we're at it, let's all crawl into bomb shelters and wait for a meteor to come and end humanity.
I do see your point regarding this issue...bit of a policy contradiction,Exactly what rides operate this way?I'd never for a second advocate avoiding rules and sneaking on cameras etc.; let's make it absolutely clear that what we're talking about here is rides where loose items can be taken on board. -
Dont forget,if it stops for any of the above reasons i mentioned,we have downtime,and im sure you guys all hate downtime. So theres another reason.
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And people dont usually hold there bags up in front of their face onehanded....Just as they dont take footage with their camera from down in the footwell...if u follow.
Really dont take this the wrong way ,im not being rude but.... 1.If you had the option of either a coin hitting you in the face or even eye at 50 Kph,or not hitting you which would you take?..and...do you have kids?How would you react if it was a child of yours receiving it? 2."Projectile"..whatever speed the coaster is doing,the loose item is doing (within reason),coasters move fast,hence the item moves fast,so usually it would be a projectile. 3.Safety bars are not nets,they are not designed to trap loose items..and they usually wont trap loose items. 4.Not all coasters have footwells..if it drops,its gone.. Not to mention the fact that rubbish like this can end up being jammed in brakes,track liners,hit people,jam wheels..ive seen a car stopped by a pidgeon..Ive seen a $2 coin put a hole in a tin wall..KingDaKa had 60m of UHMW launch liners ripped out because someone dropped car keys into the launch channel...thats enough for me.Mytbusters did actually test the concept of being hit by coins and it turns out that coins travelling at terminal velocity (that's faster than the speed you stated anyway) cant even break the skin. While Mytbusters can be a bit dubious they did do this one pretty convincingly so I dont believe for a second what you are sayingI dont think that items falling out of rides actually have the potential to become these 'projectiles' people say anyway. If it did manage to slip out of your pocket, it would have to work its way past the saftey bar, and then after that it would most likely drop into the footwell. Thats a lot of things it would have to bang into, at any rate its not going to be able to come out cleanly at 100km/h, thats just nutty.On a side note, at SFMM I rode all the coasters with all my stuff in my pockets (even X), didn't even come close to falling out. -
Yeah,but you risked being booted by doing it,its up to the operator,if they see you,and secondly if they care...there are cameras in there,all the way,plus high zone staff..guess you were lucky.I filmed SDSC with a video camera. Even though i knew there was a camera inside it still didn't put me off. -
This is ridiculous And definently not the case. cable tension is a constant..no matter the length And yes the ride has experienced somewhat of some run in difficulties..most lay in software,everyone is doing their best to prevent further reoccurences..though even provided the level of skill and effort of people involved,some things just cant be predicted,nor accounted for,its just bad luck The public sometimes is put out,in an ideal world,it wouldnt happen,but the machinery is running on the edge of the envelope...its going to experience the odd issue. The reliability comes back more so to the software.The fact its cold does make a little bit of sense Cold makes metal contract - so the cable would be slightly shorter than normal, and the tension on it would change because of that -
Whoever it was wasnt that smart..stupid infact..they didnt hide it when they went past the ride camera,the gift shop wouldve printed a photo of them with it in their hand...smart isnt it...
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