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Thing is, they could have done so much more with it. It would have looked better if they flipped it so it spelt "Gold Coast" as you drove down the M1 towards the Gold Coast. I would have also had color changing lights like what the Story Bridge in Brisbane (and many others) have so that for special events it could be color co-ordinated. Example, St Patricks Day it could be lit up green. For Pride month it could have been rainbow coloured, world AIDS day red etc.
It wasn't a terrible idea really, it just wasn't executed very well.
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17 hours ago, Stevie said:
Too expensive to pull the fountain plumbing out, just turn it into a small water spout near the ride instead
Moreso something like this maybe for the summer months...
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That and Superman's launch system honestly hasn't really provided any major headaches for the park in the nearly 20 years that it's operated. Of course it's had some minor issues (but all rides do), but it seems the smaller Intamin Hydraulic Launches (the ones that go less than 120kph) seem to be pretty reliable. Xcelerator and TTD really were the 2 prototypes for the technology, so those 2 being more problematic (especially TTD given the speed and height) is to be expected.
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18 hours ago, Gazza said:
Random question for flat ride thoosies, how do you tell the difference between a Zierer one versus a P&B one?
I mean with coasters you can tell the difference between a good and bad manufacturer because the good ones are smoother and have better shaped elements.
But is this the case for a simple spinning flat ride like this? What's the point of difference.
Generally by the look of them, the Zierer ones tend to have a bit more of a traditional look to them compared to the P&B ones. Having ridden both, I find the Zierer ones to be a little bit smoother in operation. However out of all the companies that build them, I'd say those 2 are the best. The biggest difference is the base of the ride, the Zierer ones tend to be more of an octagon shape and the others tend to be longer.
I will admit though, Volare at Luna Park is a very very good looking unit and certainly has a lot of that classic charm either way so I'm hoping that Dreamworld's version is of similar quality so I'm happy either way.
Zierer Model
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12 hours ago, STRAWS said:
@TBoycan you please do one for the old Wipeout vs Vortex
We already know the winner... Wipeout
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For force, I'd say Hair Raiser... for the Oh S**T factor... Giant Drop. However my all time fave drop tower was Space Probe 7. The theming etc just really made it something special. IMO it was one of Australia's best themed rides, right up there with Bermuda Triangle and Wild West Falls (pre 2004 fire).
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The Multi Coloured supports have been a thing since it was repainted from Reptar so hardly new...
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I'm 100% down for the fire sensing eyes, just make sure that the batteries that move the cars backwards are charged. Hell they can use the batteries in Speedy's Taxis.... they sure won't ever die mid way through the day!
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2 hours ago, Brad2912 said:
Plane crash? Sinking into the pacific?
Bermuda Triangle 2 confirmed
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I'm not sure of the manufacturer, but the one at Adventure Park is 100% not a Zierer model. We have 2 travelling Wave Swingers (March's and O'neills) although I'm not sure if O'Neills still travels or not which are both Zierer. There is also one in Western Australia but I'm not sure of the owner.
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2 hours ago, HussRainbow87 said:
They’re already spending the money, they could have gone for a Zierer at least. Best of the best when it comes to a Wave Swinger. Their custom theming on some of their park models is incredible.
I will agree happily with this, the Zierer's are by far the best model. I will admit though, the one at Luna Park Sydney actually does look pretty nice still.
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15 hours ago, TBoy said:
A bit hard to tell as most of the kids attractions are done by Zamperla. Basically all the kids attractions except coasters and carousels are done by Zamperla.
Zamperla is one of the more reputable manufacturers for family rides in the industry. They did all the rides in WBK for Movie World back in 1997 when it first opened (except speedys and LTRR). I would say they are much more reliable and better quality than SBF Visa rides having operated rides from both companies.
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5 hours ago, Baconjack said:
The tyres would get a lot of mileage on them between maintenance periods considering Superman does thousands of cycles each year. So not surprised that they replace those tyres every year
They aren't always replaced every year, they are inspected for wear and tear but generally they won't always have to be replaced. Given the trains move at a slow speed they would encounter much less wear and tear than say Motocoaster, Big Dipper or Jet Rescue that has to move the trains at high speeds. Even then they may not need to be replaced yearly, as long as they are inspected and are within safe limits etc.
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19 hours ago, Naazon said:
Wouldn't that happen every maintenance period?
Yes, these are removed every maintenance period so nothing out of the ordinary really.
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11 hours ago, DaptoFunlandGuy said:
Looking at this particular spot, it looks to be right at the start of the launch. The yellow paint is also worn in that one spot which looks to me like the evac position in case of rollback.
So in short, this track is on average the most used section of track as all rollbacks end here. It's also a high stress point as the train is accelerated from 0 to 100, so you've also got the highest friction point.
Correct, there is a railing that staff have to stand behind until they get an all clear from the main control room when doing an evacuation. During a ride stop, the staff can walk to this point but must wait till the hydraulic system is fully bled out as the ride is primed and could still launch at any moment until then.
That yellow box is generally where they would store one of the battery packs to release the harnesses in the event of an evacuation. Anywhere else in the dark ride, the pack from the load station is taken and there is one for the unload station too. -
Fairly sure that section was also sold off a few years ago. Area D I think is as far as their land goes. Pretty much all of it was sold off when they were really struggling
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Also, Space A listed above is currently being developed into commercial space so wouldn't be able to be used by Dreamworld.
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5 hours ago, REGIE said:
There was a door at the end to I remember before you got to the unload station
There has never been a door before the unload station, there was one between the load / unload station but never before.
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Dragons flight didn't actually end up at Sunway Lagoon, but at its sister park The Lost World of Tambun. The ride still operates to this day as well
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Go with a cheaper manufacturer.. have lots of issues. Or pay a little bit more... and have a ride that more than likely wouldn't have as many issues. Hmmm... I know what I would have picked.
Such a shame as the StarFlyer was a perfect fit, even the travelling model they had as a temp attraction is a better ride than this one.
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11 hours ago, New display name said:
I wasn't very clear in my first post. I was thinking e-stops, but what I wrote sounds like I was saying all stoppages. Sorry.
No worries, glad to be able to clear it up and give you bit more of an idea
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14 minutes ago, aaronm said:
If Surfrider is indeed destined for Superman’s helix, has anyone thought about the poor displaced smokers? Where will they go now? 😆
The swamp outside the park
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13 hours ago, New display name said:
Is this still the process because the impression, I get whenever we discuss E-stops within these forums is everybody now gets the boot? 🤷♀️
Yes it is still the procedure. Generally you won't hear about a ride stop unless it results in an evacuation. A ride stop simply stops the ride and can often be reset vs an e-stop which cuts all power to the ride and needs to re-do all opening checks again before guests can continue riding.
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12 minutes ago, Dean Barnett said:
The dual station layout of superman is dumb. A single load/unload platform along with a loose articles area that can be accessed via the exit (like bluefire) would be so much more efficent (and if guests can have their phones for the entire queue - happier guests too)
The ride was designed that way for theming, hence the unload station having the cracked walls (from after the earthquake). The no loose items policy also helps speed up the loading process, well was meant to anyway. But once the doors open and guests board a train can be dispatched generally within 30 seconds with 2 loaders that are on the ball.
The ride however is not efficient at all with 1 train, and I'd say was designed to run pretty much all the time with 2 trains in mind. IMO what would have made sense is having 3 trains so that the ride can always run with 2 trains as required and only drop down to 1 train in the very quiet months (End of Jan > End of March periods).
Superman with 2 trains and a dedicated sorter can easily dispatch between 25 and 30 trains a hour giving a capacity of 500 - 600 per hour which puts it not that far below Scooby Doo on a good day (which is about 700 a hour). Hardly a bad design, just not utilised in the best way at all. When the ride first opened I'd say it was actually getting closer to 35 trains a hour with 4 loaders, a sorter, entry host and 2 unloaders and ran very efficiently. However I think the 4 loaders and 2 unloaders was overkill and clearly the park did because after opening year it was cut back to 2 loaders, entry, sort and unload for 2 train ops.
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Guest Services actually trumps the ride operators... In the past if we were unsure on if someone was tall enough or if they were borderline we would send them to GS and get them to measure. They would then be given a height wristband that said what they were measured at and we were told to go off that for the day. Same with injuries, we would always send them to GS. They have a green one which means that they can go on all rides without an issue or an orange one which is to alert the operators that an observer may be required.
At rides with an entry host, the entry host will speak with the guest just to make sure that they understand evacuation procedures etc. They then call the supervisor to let them know, and it may be they are asked to come back in say 15 mins once an observer is able to be located and expressed onto the ride.
Generally if it's a minor splint though, most rides should be okay but yeah speak to GS and they will assist