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Isn't it the same Music Trip ride, or is it another ride altogether, because I know that Music Trip is a KMG Miami ride.

I second that notion. The giant insect near the entrance to Tumblebug really is an important decoration for that ride to me. The Spider ride needs that spider at the centre of the ride too. What I'd like to know is - if we agreed that the Wave Swinger should be a permanent ride, along with Rainbow, KMG Experience, Mondial Swinger, and a smaller coaster to be the next reincarnation of Big Dipper as new additions for LPS, what could be the feasible solution to fit these new rides without removing the current popular rides?

Yes they have. That's why if we get a second rollercoaster for LPS it would be the next reincarnation of Big Dipper, even though the design will be distinctively different from the previous two Big Dippers.

Hmmm, similar to Tumblebug in appearance and motion? Not unless LPS does consider of removing that ride. In full honesty, the Tumblebug is a mediocre ride, and I find it rather misleading that the Big Dipper rollercoaster entrance leads you to it. This also leaves me wondering if the Rotor and Tumblebug are still popular. True that the Power Surge comes to LPS at times, but it isn't a permanent ride. We're talking about permanent additions for LPS and new rides to replace the unpopular ones, and I vote for the Mondial Swinger to be one of them. We already agreed that LPS needs Wave Swinger, Rainbow, and KMG Experience. Personally, I agree that LPS needs another coaster. Since I already gave my honest opinion about Tumblebug, I think it should be replaced by a small coaster bigger than the Wild Mouse. "Wild Cat" doesn't sound like a bad name since we have Wild Mouse, though isn't the name "Big Dipper" heritage listed? LPS wouldn't change something that is heritage listed. A Zamperla Disk O Coaster could be another possibility for a second coaster, though personally I would prefer the already suggested Maurer Sohne Spinning Coaster. S&S El Loco coaster is too short, and the Disk O Coaster is just a bigger version of Rockin' Tug, another Zamperla ride. I'm with the idea of a second coaster to replace the Tumblebug, but the main problem is that the Big Top will get in the way of the new coaster.

I forgot to add the url bit to the YouTube videos, sorry. No matter, here's a link to the Mondial Swinger I suggested. http://www.mondialrides.com/ie/products/swinger/index.html I hope I've done the coding of the onride video correctly. Let's see. Pardon the bad quality of the video.

Hey, it's cool. I think LPS could do having one KMG ride and one Mondial ride. I've always suggested a KMG Experience as a new addition, but I don't know what Mondial ride they could have. We only have Topscan (Space Roller), Booster (No Limit), and Giant Wheel (Sky Wheel). Maybe a ride that Australia doesn't have yet - like Heartbreaker, or Swinger, perhaps. Probably Swinger since you can theme it in an old-school style. I found two videos of it. It looks pretty fun for a Mondial ride. Onride video - Offride video - Rainbow, Wave Swinger, and another rollercoaster are all ideal additions in my opinion. One thing LPS should do is keep the old rides people enjoy and replace the ones people ride less with these suggestions above. Plus, they should categorise each ride, much like what Dreamworld does, like this... Kiddy rides U-Drive Magic Castle Whirly Wheel Space Shuttle Family rides Wild Mouse Rollercoaster Ferris Wheel Wave Swinger** Rainbow* Carousel Flying Circus (Mondial Swinger)* Spider Rotor (does anyone ride Rotor?) Dodgem Cars Thrill rides Flying Saucer Ranger Spinner (KMG Experience)* Tango Train Future rollercoaster (Big Dipper 3?)* *Possible new ride **Currently at LPS, but a possible permanent ride That's about it, I guess. I left out Coney Island cause it's a funhouse, not a ride. It should make LPS a full-fledged amusement park in no time. I know Big Dipper is a bad name for a coaster nowadays, but the name itself is heritage listed. Any thoughts?

I agree to that. I saw some videos of the new HUSS rides on YouTube, and they hardly look or have that same thrill impact the classics like Breakdance, Enterprise, UFO, Rainbow, and Ranger have. In your last couple of posts, you sounded a bit biased towards KMG rides. Then again, I might have sounded a bit biased towards Mondial rides as well. I think some of the Mondial rides like Topscan, Booster (Capriolo), and JetForce look pretty amazing, but not every Mondial ride is automatically great, the same thing for any company out there, whether its HUSS, KMG, Technical Park, etc. I think some rides from KMG like Afterburner, Move It, Speed, Tango, Inversion, and Experience look pretty good and can be amazing if they are operated to their full potential. Anyway, KMG's rides are high-quality as Mondial and HUSS.

Yep, pretty much. LPS only has two good HUSS rides (Flying Saucer and Spider) since the Ranger is under a temporary hiatus, and adding one more HUSS ride like the Rainbow wouldn't be a problem. LPS needs a bit more assortment like a Mondial ride, a KMG ride, a bigger rolleroaster, and stuff along those lines. I could only think of some names to give them the old-school vibe like "The Spinner" for a KMG Experience, and uh... oh, wait, not a good name for a Mondial Topscan in LPS. There has to be a good name. Now I know I'm not much into Mondial rides, but I know that other riders would like to see a Mondial ride in LPS, just like how I would like to see a KMG ride there. I find KMG innovative in some rides and in the way how they decorate them with excellent colour schemes and eye-catching backdrops. Mondial is also innovative in their thrill rides, and both Mondial and KMG produced their own set of awesome rides over the years.

The gist of this discussion is having good rides made by some of the finest ride manufacturers of all time. There are so many, but HUSS, KMG, Mondial, and Technical Park are the legends of flat rides, much like how Intamin and B&M produce high-quality rollercoasters. I guess this discussion has digressed since we've covered that Wave Swinger will be at LPS for this year only, and we ended up discussing what rides should be at LPS. Some people like Spotty made criticisms against HUSS and KMG rides, and these types of comments are untrue, because so many of the rides manufactured by them are pretty good if not as thrilling as Mondial rides. If your opinion regarding a Matterhorn replacing the Tango is true, then maybe there's no point in replacing Spider with a HUSS Booster/Mondial Shake, because both rides look and behave identical to it, even if they flip upsidedown.

Well, the cars spin, right? I agree to that. There's no such thing as bad ride manufacturers. Every one of them make decent ones, but there are certain manufacturers that do produce such excellent rides. Personally, I haven't ridden one Mondial ride, so I can't make any true criticisms about them. I would go Space Roller, but I'm not sure about No Limit. I have to try Speed first, but even that ride is a bit too scary for me. They both look awesome, but I'm not up to riding the mega intense rides yet. I never said anything about disliking rides. I only said that I'm not much of a Mondial fan. If I were to ride one, or other rides I may not fancy, regardless of who manufactured them, I might ride them only once. Anyways, even my personal favourite ride manufacturers made some rides that suck, like HUSS's Tumblebug.

Okay, I'll take back what I said about Mondial. Both Extreme Speed and No Limit are unique booster rides in their own way, but LPS won't have low-capacity rides as permanent. I believe Mondial does make good rides no doubt about that, but I know which rides I dig most, and I prefer HUSS and KMG rides. Not bashing Mondial or anything, but that's just my preference, much like how you prefer Mondial rides, Spotty. If you think KMG is not as innovative as Mondial, can you explain how they have improved the concept of the Tivoli Spin Out? This proves that KMG knows how to make thrilling rides with top notch quality. HUSS and KMG may not have many innovative rides in comparison to Mondial, but there are some among the rest. I agree that LPS needs more thrill rides, as long as they are tolerable. About the Spider, it's not that the quality has been toned down, it's just that LPS makes it run slower to avoid making too much noise so that the residents won't complain. Now that I think about it, the HUSS Booster is a lot like the Mondial Shake in terms of being a Breakdance that inverts. I hope Australia would get its first KMG Fun Factory though. Would make a good showground ride. Here are some new rides from different manufacturers which I believe would make LPS even better. HUSS: Rainbow, Booster (possible replacement for Spider) KMG: Experience, Freak Out, Move It 24 Mondial: Shake (possible replacement for Spider if not the Booster) Other: Chaos, Bertazzon Rock n Roll (possible Tango replacement), rollercoaster replacing Tumblebug Current rides: Wave Swinger, Ranger, Flying Saucer, Wild Mouse Kiddy rides: Carousel and kids ride section That's pretty much I could think of, but I made my opinions fair by adding ONE possible Mondial ride. BTW, I thought Rock n Roll was a Chance Matterhorn. Didn't know it was by Bertazzon.

Remove the Spider? I dunno. It's manufactured by HUSS, so it's a quality ride. Being a fan of both HUSS and KMG, maybe if they remove the Spider, they could have a newly constructed KMG Fun Factory to replace it. Similar to the Breakdance, but faster. Still, Spider is a pretty good ride. They just need to make it go a bit faster. LPS needs some HUSS and KMG rides. We still need some neat rides like Wave Swinger, Ranger, and Flying Saucer. Rainbow and KMG Experience would make perfect additions. Maybe they could replace Tango Train with a Sobema/Chance Matterhorn. I find that ride more thrilling than a Musik Express/Rauphen Bahn due to the cars being able to swing when it is running at top speed. Tumblebug should probably be removed, and replaced with a bigger rollercoaster - if only the Big Top didn't take too much space. Mondial rides don't cut it for me, so I wouldn't agree on having one in LPS. They don't look bad, but I don't care much about them. I find KMG to be the more innovative Dutch ride manufacturer.

Oops, my bad. Tango would be in the thrill ride category because of its speed and G force like you said. I kinda rushed it when writing my last post. It would be even more of a thrill ride if LPS converts it to a Matterhorn. Still, it won't make much difference in the number of good rides.

I guess so, but every RES we get two Wave Swingers: one for the kiddy carnival, and the other for the Coca-Cola Carnival where all the big rides are. True that we need more rides for Australia's show circuits, but there must be plenty to boot, and LPS doesn't have enough good rides as opposed to the number of mediocre/shit rides in the park. For example: many of the rides are either kiddy or don't offer that much thrills - except for Flying Saucer and Ranger. LPS used have more thrill rides in the past, but there aren't as many since its reopening back in 2004. I'm not trying to say that LPS is bad because of that, I'm just trying to prove a point that the park must have something for everyone: rides for kids, intermediate rides, and rides for thrillseekers, and that could be accomplished if there's a balance between the ratio of rides from their respected categories. Wave Swinger and Rainbow (if LPS ever gets one) fall into the intermediate category along with Tango, Wild Mouse and Spider, and the Flying Saucer and Ranger are pretty much in the thrillseeker category. Still it's problematic since the ratio between good and shit rides (excluding the Ferris Wheel and Coney Island) is unbalanced. If LPS adds about two more thrillseeker type rides (KMG Experience and a bigger rollercoaster), then the ratio would be pretty fair. Honestly, I wouldn't consider the Wave Swinger staying in LPS for several months a problem, but it still sucks that it means LPS will remain unchanged.

I was looking forward for the Wave Swinger to stay at LPS, but I checked out the AAF forums and read that it is there only for this year until the 2011 RES. Disappointing really, since I felt Luna Park needed at least a couple more good rides. In fact, I don't think it's necessary for the Wave Swinger to go back as a travelling ride because we have about two Wave Swingers.

I agree to that. LPS could improve the theming of Maloney's Corner a bit. It does look dull being just a plot of asphalt with rides. I did mention LPS bringing back those fancy decorations like the Lego blocks and giant spider, which could spice up the atmosphere of Maloney's Corner. Better yet, they could make the area look more than just a plot of asphalt. Maybe they could build some more decorations for the park to make it more appealing. I had a funny thought of what LPS would describe future rides, particularly the ones I've mentioned. Rainbow - Soar up high in the clouds and feel the breeze with sensational air time as you descend at breathtaking speed. KMG ride (Experience, maybe) - This new-age generation ride will send you spinning topsy-turvy! Hold on tight! To make the latter ride sound a bit more historical, LPS could name the KMG Experience, if they ever get one, as "The Spinner". It sounds pretty old-school. I couldn't think up of a good name for a possible second rollercoaster. It would have to be a bit bigger and thrilling than Wild Mouse, but "Big Dipper" wouldn't sound great, considering the the two dead Big Dipper coasters (1st one burned and the 2nd sold to Dreamworld, now under the name Cyclone).

I dunno about that. I mean, I'm cool with them having random rides every holidays and all, but changing the landscaping and theming each time doesn't sound like a good idea. Better for LPS to bring back the decorations they used to have back in 1995. With a few more permanent attractions, LPS won't feel the need to have extra rides during the holidays. Having modern theming for sake of KMG rides won't be that necessary since most of the KMG rides do have that classic feel to them. I'm cool if they do add Rainbow and bring back Ranger. River caves don't sound like a bad idea, but if LPS were to add one more permanent ride, I would prefer it if they bring in a second rollercoaster, one that is bigger than the Wild Mouse.

The Wave Swinger is one of my personal favourites right next to Rainbow, Ranger, Flying Saucer, Spider, and some of the KMG rides (though I haven't really ridden one yet). True, it's just a chair swing ride like the Wild Chairs, but it has more seats, moves faster, and is a lot more fun. Besides, LPS is an old school themed amusement park, so it's pretty logical to add Wave Swinger since it's a classic ride. They might add more rides sometime in the future - hopefully bringing back the Ranger and adding a Rainbow (or replacing Ranger with Rainbow in case it doesn't come back to LPS, though I'd prefer it if they have both rides), with the possibility of adding a KMG ride. Sure, KMG may not be considered as "old school," but some of their rides do have a knack for having the classic vibe to them, and the company is from West Holland, so the rides are of high quality and pretty innovative, whether if it's the new-age ones or the ones that have that classic feel. LPS once had the KMG ride Speed for the school holidays all those years so...

Alright, now I'm getting pleased to see LPS finally coming to its senses and finally adding rides that are awesome other than placing shitty rides during the school holidays. Hope to see the Ranger ASAP. We do need a couple of upsidedown rides here in LPS. If there's room for two more rides in the future, I think LPS should add a Rainbow, and perhaps a KMG ride. Good to see LPS getting back on speed. Yeah, I've been checking out AAF forums from time to time. That's where I found the info.

Well, I guess it has been confirmed that the ride replacing Ranger for the time being is indeed March's Wave Swinger. In my vote, it's a pretty fun ride, and it's so much better than the Wild Chairs Yo-yo ride we sometimes get during the school holidays. Would have been great if LPS were to have the Rainbow, though. I guess maybe they might add one in the future, who knows.

So the Ranger is just getting an overhaul and coming back to LPS, eh? Well that's good to hear. The Ranger has been one of my favourite rides so far, and that means LPS will still have its two upsidedown rides afterwards (Flying Saucer and Ranger). I could only still wonder what the replacement of the Ranger would be, but I really hope it would be Rainbow. That would make about 5 HUSS rides in LPS, plus with the Rainbow, GoGoBoy said that riders would get a good view of the harbour than the other rides of LPS. If it's a ride from the 80's, then I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it would be Rainbow. Also, LPS should bring back some of the decorations it used to have back in 1995, because I remembered some decorations like the giant insect near the entrance to Tumblebug, the Lego blocks at the kiddy rides area, and the giant spider at the centre of the Spider ride. I also think that LPS could spiff up Maloney's corner a bit more by making the grounds look a lot less like a parking lot by theming the area. Any ideas?

That mural backdrop behind the Ranger has been there since LPS reopened in 1995, and if it's still been used up to now that the ride is being packed away, I guess it does give a hint what the replacement ride would be in the future. So yeah, the Rainbow might likely be the replacement. Breaching the topic, it would also do some good to LPS if they add a couple more thrill rides including a rollercoaster, just to even the ratio between good and mediocre/bad rides. To be blunt about that, now that the Ranger is gone, LPS is down to like two rides with only one or two decent ones worth buying unlimited passes on, and I find it problematic because there aren't enough good rides to make LPS more enjoyable, and most of the good ones that come for the school holidays come very rarely. To me, if LPS were to add another ride apart from replacing the Ranger, I would like them to add a KMG ride, because KMG manufactures high quality rides next to HUSS. Zamperla does manufacture some decent rides, but I'm not much of a Zamperla fan. HUSS and KMG rides have always been my favourite.

Yup, the Rainbow would make a great replacement, but I don't think it's a good idea to upgrade our Ranger, because it is the only HUSS Ranger we have here in Australia. What I really hope however, is that LPS won't screw themselves over by replacing the Ranger with a crap/kiddy ride, because they don't have many good thrill rides - with only the Flying Saucer, Spider, Tango, and Wild Mouse as an exception, but that's not enough. I'm afraid that if LPS don't provide better thrills soon, it may be over and done with like the rest of Sydney's amusement parks.

Thanks for pointing that out, GoGoBoy. And if I forgot to mention, the Rainbow also has HUSS's signature machine operating sound, just like the Ranger, and that's the beauty of it. Both rides are really fun for that.

Well, the Rainbow uses the same engine used by the Ranger. They both have the same mechanics utilising the 90kW DC motors. HUSS designed the Ranger in 1981, and later modified the design while keeping the engine intact to create the Rainbow. The Rainbow was released in 1983/1984, and it gives a similar, yet different thrill of its predecessor. LPS's Ranger was made in 1983, just a year before the HUSS Rainbow came out. For more information on how the rides are similar, take a look at these. http://www.ride-extravaganza.com/thrill/ranger/ http://www.ride-extravaganza.com/intermediate/rainbow/