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I so hope DW replaces the Buzzsaw with this:
Then add a nice mega lite at least with some good air.
Super compact but thrilling inverting coaster, and megalite in place of cyclone. Done. Would be awesome, no?
Personally I'd be in heaven and move to Queensland then LOL.
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You guys won't believe this but i have a couple of stunning night videos that we took on the coaster NOT WEARING the restraints! At Luna Park Sydney when the coaster was about a year old. It was pretty much the best thing in OZ at the time, and the ride attendants were showing off all the features, and yes, the part about no restraints is true.. The bad news is I have to find it, i know i DO have it, but I have never transferred a video to a computer in my life, and this was taken on old school tape cam. I will try at least find it this week. p.s. we swore a couple of times when riding it, is that ok?
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Ah i used to love going to wonderland and always wondered what happened to Bounty's revenge, thanks so much for the update. I have never seen a non caged looping ship anywhere else, and i have been to maybe 100+ theme parks WW.. Are these a thing of true rarity?
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I am very excited about MW getting a new attraction, of course, in my heart I hope for another great coaster. It is a real shame they refuse to fix lethal weapon though, as the layout is non stop action and fun, it's just so painful. How much are the vekoma replacement trains with the new restraints that would make LW a decent coaster?
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I just will add my 2c... i find it absolutely incredible, that if this does end up being something awful like MDMC, that Australian parks choose vekoma for their worst ride models (lethal weapon and the defunct demon boomerang) then go with intamin instead of vekoma on a style that vekoma simply does better. Whatever. I have honestly started to give up hope that we will ever see a serious coaster in Australia..... superman excepted (although it really ain't all that either)
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Hi I made a typo and didn't see it till you quoted it i meant to put in 140 million for MW but even that was wrong according to postings afterwards. But the thing i am sure about is the "world's scariest roller coaster" line.. i definitely read that one, in two different articles... then the other, australia's greatest roller coaster, made much more sense, but yeah, two of them did say it will feature a "blah blah etc and the world's scariest roller coaster" Anyway, a b+m in melbourne is a dream come true in any case. I would love this park to have a good piece of wood, a b+m looper and an accelerator with massive airtime hills. I think they would be a complete collection of coasters (and of course a family one to add to it). Wishful thinking, i know! I just SOOOOOO wish we could get a decent woodie here, I guess if not a woodie, then an intamin or B+M hyper and a B+M floorless/inverted/sitdown/standup multilooper.They said "Australias Greatest", not "Worlds Scariest". I mean, if you were going to take the concept art at face value you would say the coaster will also be built without proper supports. I mean, its pretty obvious the artist was trying to draw Sheikra, but didn't draw 100% correctly....looks like it was done by the same artist who does the MW park maps, look at how they drew LW on that
Still, if the coaster is the type depicted, there is no doubt it would be Australias greatest.
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I'm NOT on crack. SERIOUSLY.... You guys are on crack. Seriously. If the park turns out even half as good as the concept art, then it'll be an amazing park. I'm sitting here looking at a good collection of flats, a well themed river ride, plus a few coasters. Add to that the promised 4D theatre, Safari ride, plus the stuff we can't see and the existing animals already at the Zoo and that's one kick bottom park. If the place goes ahead the way its depicted in the concept art (probably a big if that one. See Richard's post) then I really can see it being my favorite Aussie park by a country mile. I loved Animal Kingdom and Busch, and this doesn't appear to far off the mark of either of the two. If nothing else, it certainly looks like a more full day out then Animal Kingdom would have been when it opened.
Yes, I want the park and love the idea, but the other guys whose comments you referred to were merely going by what they read. In EVERY news article available anywhere on the proposed park so far, there are claims that it would rival Disney, etc, and with 220m aussie as the budget,, it is NOT POSSIBLE. What IS possible is that it will be a good park with good rides. ( I also don't know where they get world's scariest roller coaster from, it looks like a stripped down sheikra to me losing an inversion and the second drop)
IIRC even movieworld opened at 400 million, with just then the gremlins adventure, batman, police academy, studio tour etc, none of the big thrill rides we have there now.
But it's still a great idea and of course if it's successful, well we have future expansion to look forward to also. I think this one will go through they won't make the same mistake AGAIN of losing a theme park.
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I thought it WAS the oldest but then Leap the Dips took over??? and now SR is 2nd? I could be wrong.I hope Scenic Railway never goes, Its the oldest continually operating coaster in the world, and it would be hard to make up for the loss of it. I think just a bit of re-tracking would be the way to go. There is space for if they want to build another more thrilling coaster, why not have another coaster doing a couple of laps around the park beside the scenic railway? I think apart from the carousel and the ghost train you can just gut the rest (is that dodgems building protected? I hope not)
It was just a pinfari zyklon loop i can't remember why the plans fell apart but i did have a good talk to the manager at the time... however a zyklon loop is still better than a galaxi. DAMN I HATE THOSE THINGS LOL!About ten years ago there was a plan to put in a new coaster ( quite large that went over the road into the foreshore park ) -
Mostly good ideas except that terrible Chance inverter, horrible ride. A Huss floorless top spin instead would rock. Also, I am one of the few that wishes there was a legal way to demolish the scenic railway and build a new coaster with the same name that circled the park or even just make the existing one thrilling with steep drops etc. It's closed at present they are doing some sort of construction/repair on it... also the maurer shone zig zag could be replaced with their newer spinning coasters which are great. Could still be put on top of a building.
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California Screaming is another one with brake failure and trains colliding. I didn't mean just Intamin (although CS IS Intamin)..although I worded it incorrectly. Just recently there was a collision with Arrow's MagnumXL, I mean, it does happen...Nice to know that a drop ride's brakes are foolproof. Thanks for the explanation. And regarding Nev's comments, it seemed very uncaring and indifferent to me, (highlighted by his own words that he was backing off before an argument started lol), but if I misunderstood, sorry Nev!Sorry, what are you trying to say with respect to nev's comments? How was he making a joke? How was he having a dig at the girl? 'Plenty' is a bit of an exaggeration, the only incident i know of is on Superman: Ride of Steel, you can read about it here: http://capital2.capital.edu/admin-staff/dalthoff/sros.html The difference is on roller coasters the brakes need to be able to open and close (eg the rollback brakes on SE) They used to also do it on the final brakes so the friction wheels would have to do less work to get trains out of the brakes when it was time to move the train (didnt have to put up with magnetic resistance) Now they have abandoned that approach and just have fixed brake fins mounted on a sloping section of track, and then a friction wheel at the bottom to physically stop the train. -
Not funny, the girl lost her feet.Because, quite simply, it wasn't a western, 13 year old little girl who sustained the injuries, and that's the sad fact about the media. We're also talking about a spinning carnie ride, not a 100m tall drop ride. Don't really want to get into an argument so I'm stepping back
and what about if the brakes fail? Haven't they done so on plenty of Intamin Coasters before? What makes a tower drop's braking system more reliable? What I am saying is, it's not foolproof. Guess it ads to the thrill in a drop ride.Correct, however in that situation it would hit the bottom buffers very hard as it would have the added weight of the catchcar (approx 250kgs) which added to a full gondola is far over the allowed weight. It would still slow dramatically in the brake fins but hit the ground with a definate thud. Now for this to occur BOTH cables would need to break at the same time and the chances of that are highly unlikely unless both cables had worn past use by and the second cable couldnt handle the load of the cabin by itself. -
PLEASE let it be the 100' model! PLEASE!...more vertical
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On the news it was stated clearly that the total cost of the park would be about 1.5 BILLION.We're looking at a $115 bid. This is less than the cost of just about every major Disney ride out there. Dreamworld's replacement cost sits at around $250 million. So we're looking at a park that is also worth less than half what Dreamworld is. You can expect it to be no bigger than half the size of Dreamworld - that's without theming and planning expenses. It just doesn't seem like something to get worked up about at this stage, unless someone ups the ante, in which case it shifts from being a poor theme park choice to being a very poor financial choice.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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what about a water DROP ride of some sort?? PLEASE!
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I actually found it quite rough. Are you tall Skipper? I am 6'4" and the head banging and vibrations were honest to God downright painful. When I first rode it in 1998 it was brand new and super smooth. Last ride was in 2004. However I am surprised you found it boring. To me it really has what I call "non stop action". If you want a boring standup, ride Mantis at Cedar Point. *yawn*Psycho, Just curious if you have ridden a stand up before? I rode Riddler's Revenge at SFMM earlier this month and was expecting something really amazing as I had never actually ridden one before but it was probably one of the most boring coasters at the park and VERY uncomfortable - I think this would be a big step backwards for Dreamworld. or maybe RR is just a bad example of a stand up?? -
Hmm, there must be a way to ditch the scenic railway and get away with it. loophole, please!.. and build a classic woodie around there like the original big dipper. Could do say 3 laps, lots of drops and airtime. They originally squeezed both the scenic and big in there so think about just the one! It would be soooooo good:) That zigzag coaster looks a little lame, but a spinning mouse perched up high is a good idea, just something a little better. The rest of the ideas are decent...I'd definitely want to add some extra themeing to the ghost train though. Also, there needs to be another more thrilling flat ride in there somewhere...INSTEAD of that horrible inverter - ouch! I would vote for a huss top spin over an inverter ANY day! In addition, it would be nice to squeeze in another thrilling flat - what specifically I'm undecided on at this point. But a top spin definitely. They rock!
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I missed it, and am curious as to whether they had anything decent. Last year was really bad, with a slingshot, ranger, ghost train, and a couple fo other minor things. That was it.
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Hmm I thought it was a bit average. Too broken up, lacked cohesion. I thought the reverse drop was fine but then we came to that standstill again and waited for the turntable to turn so we could do the rest of the coaster, which um, wasn't much. Thankfully there were som decent lats, but that's about it. Not a smidge of air, and really tame bunnies. The best part was actually the ride up until the elevator.
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Well I haven't answered a cyclone vs lethal question before lol so I will give my opinion this time...LW by FAR! absolutely NO comparison! I actually just about dozed off on cyclone!
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Tha hangover is fun enough but is just not as comfortable or exciting as the aero 360 model (eg at kennywood pa). The hangover feels alot more caustrophobic...the only time I went on it was this year at Melb show and there was NO queue and I am not joking, the operator had us going for about 15 minutes. i started counting the revolutions at one point and we did about 50! :eek: and that's not counting when we first started! so it was a bit much and maybe that's why my opinion of it is a bit marred. i guess it would be fun at normal ride time length.
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Still, I am upset! But of course maintenace needs to be done! I needed an inversion fix and actually didn't mind Lethal.
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off the top of my head i'd say close to 200. do i have to list them all?
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hmm that's a hard one but overall I'd say I love fantasy themeing when done properly (eg disney fantasyland) or spooky/horror themeing a close second. Anything with wizards, dragons, all that sort of mystical stuff. I love it.
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desperado? 225 feetHow tall is it?
Still, if the coaster is the type depicted, there is no doubt it would be Australias greatest.
$400 Mil for MW back in 1992? Are you sure?
Yes, I want the park and love the idea, but the other guys whose comments you referred to were merely going by what they read. In EVERY news article available anywhere on the proposed park so far, there are claims that it would rival Disney, etc, and with 220m aussie as the budget,, it is NOT POSSIBLE. What IS possible is that it will be a good park with good rides. ( I also don't know where they get world's scariest roller coaster from, it looks like a stripped down sheikra to me losing an inversion and the second drop)
IIRC even movieworld opened at 400 million, with just then the gremlins adventure, batman, police academy, studio tour etc, none of the big thrill rides we have there now.
But it's still a great idea and of course if it's successful, well we have future expansion to look forward to also. I think this one will go through they won't make the same mistake AGAIN of losing a theme park.
Dreamworld lacks a signature coaster
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Guys I didn't mean i even thought it had a small chance of happening, it was just my pipe dream of how dreamworld could have 2 great coasters. If they had put the extended x car version instead of the standard skyloop, that would have been good enough too.
The premier coaster I showed is actually a very exciting ride, as i said was just a pipe dream.