[Wizard of Oz - Movie World Arkham Asylum Replacement]

7 minutes ago, Tricoart said:

They're talking about the Wonka candy

I know, but the whole reason the brand name was used is because a successful children's book has been adapted into two successful films. So wouldn't it make sense for a company to continue to take advantage of the Wonka name, especially when there is a new film right around the corner? 

I know Nestle discontinued the brand overseas in 2018, but I wouldn't be surprise if it made a comeback if the new movie is successful. 

[Wizard of Oz - Movie World Arkham Asylum Replacement]

On 20/07/2022 at 5:46 PM, Rabbit2014 said:

The wonka brand name was discontinued a few years ago, the lollies still exist in australia but under the rj’s brand.

There's a new movie coming out called Wonka, so I sincerely doubt that.

[Arkham asylum replacement theming??]

On 11/07/2022 at 9:20 AM, rappa said:

This thing is being chopped up into nasty bits its for sure not going anywhere. 
 

 

As for replacement, would some highly themed family coasters be so bad? Like the place IS for kids right as a primary audience?

I don't think the problem is that it's a family coaster, the problem is that a family coaster is replacing a major thrill coaster in the park. 

DC Rivals opened in 2017, it's been a bit since their last major investment into an attraction. Whilst I'd agree that the park needs another family attraction, replacing a thrill ride with a family boomerang is a huge let-down. 

[Leviathan Construction Updates]

1 minute ago, DaptoFunlandGuy said:

But with one row of forwards seats at the back!

That's gonna be a very intimate riding experience for the people sitting on the second last row.

[Leviathan Construction Updates]

3 hours ago, DaptoFunlandGuy said:

Coming in 2023 - Steel Leviathan!

Coming in 2026 - Steel Leviathan II

It's Steel Leviathan, but backwards!

[Police officer suing over trauma from seeing dead bodies in aftermath of Dreamworld tragedy]

I'm no legal expert, and I don't know how many of you know your laws. But does he have a case? I wouldn't say seeing disfigured dead bodies is the expectation for someone in law enforcement, but surely it's unreasonable to think that you would never see a horrific scene as a part of this career. 

I feel bad for him, obviously. I couldn't imagine seeing what he say, and it's clearly left a horrible impact on his life. But I don't personally think Dreamworld are at fault for a first responder doing their job. If the officer wins this case, than shouldn't that give the right for doctors to sue their patients for the trauma they experienced via their patient's injuries? 

[Disneyland movie will it discuss CV Wood ( person who helped design it, mostly erased by history )]

Even if he were to be included, he should only have a minor role. Ultimately, it's a film about Walt Disney.

The Social Network wasn't really about the creation of Facebook, much like how Raging Bull isn't really about boxing. The best biopics use historical events to tell personal stories. 

This isn't the CV Wood film, or is it about his relationship to Walt Disney. Maybe he should have a part in the movie, but it shouldn't spend a huge portion of the runtime on a character that isn't massively important.

[New Theme park for NSW- Hypothetical?]

1 hour ago, franky said:

I think what's going to make it difficult for a new comer to the Aus theme park market is that there are now well established parks to compare it to.

If you were to open a theme park with only 1 coaster (and nothing else to complement it, like a wildlife park or a garden etc) then you're going to have a hard time staying afloat when everyone will be continuously comparing you to the gold coast parks in terms of value.

Seaworld/Movieworld existing with only 1 coaster was fine at the time, because every other park was only small and newly established.

My mind is open and hopeful though!

 

I'd agree if the park was being built around Brisbane and the Gold Coast. But I think 1 coaster, a few flats and other non-ride attractions would be sustainable for a short period of time. The target audience wouldn't be people who have easy access to the parks on the coast. 

The people who the park attracts at first would be people who's only real experience in a park would be their Queensland holiday they took five years ago. 

I'm always wrong though, so I'm interested to hear others thoughts.

It's hard for me to judge specifics about what location in NSW would suit a theme park, or what coasters would be in a park's price-range. I don't get out of Brisbane much, and my coaster knowledge isn't that developed.

I was about to say a ride like Steel Curtain would fit the park in my first message, but then I realised it was around 20 million dollars. So maybe a smaller scale Steel Curtain, one that isn't 200ft, would be a good fit. 

[New Theme park for NSW- Hypothetical?]

As much as I enjoy the dramatic arts, this thread has gone personal very quickly.

If I can move the attention back to the topic at hand. I disagree with pazzap when he states "...one good coaster isn't enough." I think it is to an extent, obviously one good coaster needs supporting attractions. But if my Wikipedia article reading habits are anything, Movie World's only coaster from 1995 - 2002 was a Vekoma SLC. Obviously not a world class attraction, and maybe played more of a supporting role, but it was a good enough ride to stand-out. Sea World did have a shabby looking smaller coaster before Corkscrew, but the Arrow Dynamic looper was really the attraction that serviced the park as their big attraction. I'm sorry if my historical recounting is inaccurate, I was only born in 03. 

But my main point is that one big roller-coaster is serviceable for a period of time. But what I do agree with pazzap on is quality over quantity. I think the park is better off saving up for 1 or 2 major roller-coasters rather than spilling their budget on 6 or 7 coasters from lower-tier manufacturers. However, a ride like Rollin' Thunder seems like a good investment for a smaller park to gain a steady stream attendance numbers. 

Which is what the park will be for a decade or two. Theme Parks are already a very costly industry, especially building a park from the ground up. We can't expect Disney or Universal to swoop in and spend hundreds of millions on building these big expensive attractions, Australia just isn't attractive enough for that to happen. For any park to enter the game, I think it needs to have it's eyes set small and work it's way upwards. 

I appreciate the thought that was put into the proposal, and it's certainly a very interesting discussion. It's a shame the thread has been hijacked by petty arguments. 

[Movieworld 30 Year Anniversary Celebration Predictions]

1 hour ago, TimmyG said:

I think my point is being missed. Rivals as good of a ride as it is, is not a world class ride like depicted. Not only that, it’s presentation is very much off note for what we should be expecting from the park. At the end of the day, it’s a good coaster for the market, but it’s an average hyper coaster by world standards, and unlike the other rides of the park, it doesn’t have any decent theming to back it up. Where is the rides magic? There isn’t any. I say the same about Green Lantern.
 

It feels very much like a six flags ride, a plonk there, put in a garden, call it a name to suggest it has a theme and story, but in reality it has an incredibly weak story that it’s not even worth mentioning.

Im happy with Superman replacing the SFX show, to me it has the magic, even if the courtyard is average. However it came at the expense of an attraction that “everyone could ride”, and I feel. An updated SFX show should have been put on in a new location. 
 

Movie World used to be a park where you didn’t have to ride the rides to have an enjoyable day out, now it’s a place where you have to ride the rides, there’s very little “showmanship” inside the park. The rides shouldn’t have come at the expense of the showmanship. That is why I rate current day movie world to be piss weak. 

You might have chosen the wrong hill to die on.

The statement about how DC Rivals isn't a world-class attraction is very questionable. However, I think you have forgotten that majority of Movie World's guests have never even set foot into a foreign theme park. It does not matter if you consider DC Rivals to be lacking in originality in comparison to the world stage, since the general public have never even seen an attraction like it. 

The closest coaster to DC Rivals, with a regular chain-lift, non-inverted, no launch, would have been Gold Coaster. A relic from the 90s, from a company that ceases to exist. The Australian market has never even comprehend a full-circuit coaster that large. 

I was born in 2003, I cannot speak on anything Movie World related from the early 2000's. However, I somewhat agree. There is an argument to be had when discussing a drop in theming and film-making type attractions. But the argument about DC Rivals and Green Lantern is fatally flawed.

[Movieworld 30 Year Anniversary Celebration Predictions]

The two rides I have the most nostalgia for are Scooby Doo and Wild Wild West, I use to be terrified of anything that looked big, scary and went upside down. 

My favourite trip to Movie World would have been nearly a decade ago, no clue on the year. But It was my first time back since I was a toddler. It was a rainy day, and without my mother for protection, my father decided it was a great time to get me on some of the bigger rides. He got me on Superman Escape and Batwing, at the time that was the worst experiences of my life. I didn't open my eyes once on Superman, and I have never been more terrified for my life on Batwing. 

Then when the park was deserted, I was able to have constant rides of Scooby-Doo. Which was definitely my therapy session for that day, my younger self enjoyed that much more.

Now, obviously DC Rivals is my favourite ride. But the first time you remember experiences those forces are definitely my favourite. 

[Steel Taipan Construction - Dreamworld Mack launched roller coaster]

I love middle aged YouTube! Especially Australian middle aged YouTube. 

[Arkham Asylum dismantling]

6 hours ago, Smol bean said:

Just say it’s a mouse wild and say that it’s a new ride and the gp won’t bat an eye

The general public aren't stupid, this sentiment is a stain on the community in my opinion. Just because they aren't interested in the latest and greatest of theme park developments, does not at all mean something like that will fly over their heads. They'd be the first people to point out that they are the exact same ride.

[Arkham Asylum dismantling]

Historically speaking, whenever a theme park is bought out the new ownership tends to enjoy marking it's authority over its new purchase. I think we could expect something big installed for Arkham Asylum's replacement. It well and truly could be a B&M, Richard said something a bit ago about them being on Village's radar. Their coasters would add something valuable to Movie World's line up. A Mad Max theme might be pretty cool, but they'll probably just name the coaster after the newest Superhero movie like they always do.

[Arkham Asylum dismantling]

6 minutes ago, Gazza said:

Why does the new coaster have to occupy the same footprint as Arkham?

The general area. The ride is pretty close to the film lot, which does limit the potential space. Even if they manage to find new room, I still do not think it would be enough for a large scale B&M, which coasters like a wing, dive and hyper usually are.

I could be wrong, but it is just my though process.

[Arkham Asylum dismantling]

If we were to see a B&M replacing Arkham Asylum, it would have to be one of their more compact coasters. Which leaves it either their new surf model, a flying coaster or the inverted model. The area is not small at all, but B&M's tend to be quite bigger in comparison to other coasters. 

Personally, I think would be really cool to see a flying coaster. Very easy to sell, and they could do so much theming potential. 

[Arkham Asylum dismantling]

The Arkham area looks great and clearly kept in good condition, and the emptiness does fit the theme. But I also feel that the area could be used for so much more and not be so empty and depressing. I honestly think Arkham closing is going to be a blessing in the long run. 

Never liked the actual ride anyway.

[Arkham Asylum dismantling]

2 hours ago, Gazza said:

I dont understand this thought process? So 8 person  trains on GL are ok but 8 person trains on a Raptor are not enough capaciity?

I'm pretty sure a Raptor can only run 1 train, and I am not 100% sure on how many trains run on Green Lantern at a single point in time. But I am 100% sure it is more than 1.

[Leviathan Construction Updates]

2 hours ago, Rydah Hi said:

I came back from Sea World today! And I took some photos of Leviathan. I didn't saw anything happening on site today, But I'm happy that I saw The Wooden Coaster in person today.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Unfortunately, I can't post the photos on the forum, Sorry. 😔

Glad you tried.

[What coasters should come to a new Wonderland Sydney]

Just now, Jdude95 said:

Do we even have that many feet in Australia? 

I am sure if we all pitch in, we can get it done.

Maybe start a fundraiser? 

[What coasters should come to a new Wonderland Sydney]

I think we could expect the first 500 feet roller coaster built for the Wonderland revival. It is really the only reasonable conclusion we can come to. Sure, it will take a lot of feet to build, but when it is. It will be a site to see. 

[New Intamin Spinning Coaster- France]

48 minutes ago, A.H said:

Intamin is just throwing mud at a wall and hoping it eventually sticks

You'd hope so.

You can never allow yourself to take advantage of the situation you are in, it will eventually blind you from innovation. If Intamin are continuing to take inspiration from other manufactures and pushing the boundaries of the roller coaster industry,  it will only push the other manufactures to better their product. Not everything will work, but eventually you will find something. 

I would of been disappointed if Intamin were not adventuring into new territory, challenging themselves with new ideas. Competition in this case will only benefit customers, which will trickle down to us. 

[What are these rides like?]

1 hour ago, Smol bean said:

I’m also scared of @AlexB not gonna lie

Him and his profile picture, utterly terrifying. 

Where is Walt leading Mickey Mouse? That is the real question, what is Walt going to do to him?

I agree with Mr. Bean.

[What are these rides like?]

I am sorry, but this is one of the most stupid threads I have possibly seen. Granted, I have personally made some stupid threads in my day.

The most productive answer you will get is 'intense' or 'not intense'.

You are asking us to describe a feeling, we can not possibly do that. Do you want words like 'extreme', or even 'pure adrenaline'? How about intense in Spanish? Intenso! Does this fulfill your needs? DC Rivals was so Intenso! 

My point is, stop asking us to describe a feeling. Do we look like Shakespeare? 

6 hours ago, Smol bean said:

What does scooby doo spooky coaster feel like I have a fear of rollercoasters but I want to overcome it and I heard scooby is the tamest coaster in the park ahead of roadrunner

The only way you will overcome roller coasters is through riding them, speaking from experience.

You do not need to jump into the deep end, in some cases it will only create more fear. Slowly and surely take more and more steps to build your confidence, these feat of engineering are nothing to be scared of. 

So in short, my advice is take what you can handle. You are allowed to take your time, there is no rush. Just be productive about it, there is no use in being scared of something you clearly have some interest in. 

[Most Iconic Australian Theme Park Attraction]

I would say the most iconic ride Australia has ever had was the Tower of Terror.

It might of only had the world record because of a delay, but it is that it held that record is what is important. I think it is what put Australia on the map in terms of theme parks. 

DC Rivals might be too young to be called an icon, but it will definitely grow to become synonymous with the Australian theme park industry. I mean, one can argue it is already the star attraction.