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6 hours ago, joz said:
Wow I've never seen someone drink so much cool aid before. A hotel near dreamworld will hurt their numbers because people will go down the road to Movie World instead? How do people come up with this shit?
Okay, let me explain myself. People will stay at DW resort and they will go to DW, that's expected. But if you have a another themepark down the road that's got more attractions, are you going to return to DW after your initial visit? What DW's resorts offer is accomodation closer to all the themeparks within the area, but with its current offerings, doesn't compel you to spend more time or business there. Now with MW, lets assume they haven't got any accommodation left at their eventual hotel development. People still want to stay close to the themeparks and DW has some rooms available. Now if your only 2 choices would be half an hour away in Surfers or up the road at DW, where are you going to stay? Now, I might have worded it incorrectly but DW's attendance will increase, but at the same time it could potentially cause MW's attendance to increase at a greater rate due to a better offering. I know if I was staying in the area, and was aware of what both parks had, I'd be going down the road to MW (and I'd only be staying at DW resort in the first place if MW was booked out before hand).
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I would hope that any plans to develop apartments/accommodation and shopping would also take into account improving the park as well - with Dreamworld the way it is at the moment with its offerings, chances are people staying at the hotel will just hop onto a bus and travel down the road to VR's offerings (MW, WW, OS, TG, PC) after discovering DW has nothing else to offer them. You're basically going to add to VR's numbers, which will further exacerbate DWs attendance if VR get their plans underway for hotel/shopping redevelopment.
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Yes!!! I knew the theme of the new coaster was Sinestro, the pink proves it!!! And the wrap on the poles just confirms my thoughts!!!
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Holy shit, and that's not even the peak height!! 
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15 minutes ago, MaxxTheMonster said:
Different view...
Aside from that.......
I mean we talk about the limitations of having 4 seats facing backwards, is this because of any increased strain, sensations, forces etc placed on the body/coaster car or is there another reason entirely?
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7 hours ago, Richard said:
Two reasons that doesn't work @Redboost. Firstly they can't physically put a second backwards row in. You'll notice in the renderings that it's the exact same chassis as the other carriages. All they've done is switched the first row of seats around and removed the second row because there's nowhere to put it. In order to keep engineering requirements and costs reasonable they're working within the confines of their existing, rigorously tested technology.
Secondly you're expecting people to want to queue for considerably longer to experience the backwards seats, but then have half being forced to ride with an obstructed view? That sort of defeats much of the purpose of the experience. It's a good way to upset half of those willing to queue longer.
I wasn't aware of the physical and mechanical limitations of backwards seating which is why I thought it would be a no brainer to do. But in hindsight I guess your explanation makes sense. I hadn't even thought of the obstructed view aspect but then again, like forward facing seats, not everyone likes to be at the very front and having an extra row would give people a choice, as limited as it may be. Either way, there's no point dwelling upon it as it would appear at this stage of construction, the decision has been made. Just out of curiosity, for those of you who have actually ridden in a backwards facing RC, what differentiates the experience from riding it forwards? Higher intensity? More G forces on the body?
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2 hours ago, Richard said:
Firstly, what are we basing this "initially thought demand" on? And then, why would the solution to an incredibly anticipated feature be to scrap it?
It's somewhat apparent from the station layout that the back row will have its own queue. You know what will happen when that queue reaches a certain length? People will skip it and join the main queue or find something else to ride. It's kind of how rides have worked for a century or so...
I've never said that the backwards feature should be scrapped, merely suggesting that its capacity could be doubled if the coaster cars were not yet finalised. While yes, I'll admit there is no concrete figure to base demand upon, but judging by the fact that the backwards seating seems so limited that people are actually talking about it being an upcharge and or even a VIP exclusive option, that would suggest that 2 seats is not enough to fulfil demand. I would think that if you are going to sell a feature such as backwards seating, you'd try to give people as much of a chance to experience it in a reasonable fashion rather than limiting it to a point where demand critically exceeds supply.
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Would it be too late for MW to increase the last carriage to 4 backwards riders now that its been identified that there's a higher than initially thought demand for backwards seating? Or would the cars already be in full production and too late to change? Seems weird that the last car is only 2 riders when all the other cars are 4 riders.
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Channel 7 Sydney had coverage of the hypercoaster and played footage of @docoaster's render 😆
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25 minutes ago, Reanimated35 said:
A crane would easily do it.
Worst case, there's always this
Egads!!! I didn't even know such a crane existed!! Is there even one in Australia to perform the required construction if need be?
Edit: Apparently they are used by some Australian mining companies so I guess they are available if needed.
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Just curious for those who are familiar with coaster construction, would a copter be required to carry/lift the tallest parts of the coaster into place or would a crane be used for those parts?
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With Tailspin, what's the best way to get the maximum amount of spins? I've been on the ride twice and can never get as many spins as in the video shown and by the time I actually get some momentum, the ride is over. Am I missing something??
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Nice to see DW getting some love from the public. I think even if DW were not to announce any new rides anytime soon, they should at least try to engage the GP with special events like this more often. Just don't use it as an excuse to not build anything new!!
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I like the idea of Better not Bigger. But I do think they still need a ride to fill the gap left by TRR - a family thrill ride, because I think the point of difference that DW has with MW is that it is geared more towards the family whereas MW is aimed at the thrill seeker. Maybe an outback adventure type ride similar to Indiana Jones at Disneyland? Not necessarily in the same scale as that would be prohibitively pricey but a mini landcruiser on tracks - maybe re-purpose/redesign Vintage cars with faster, rugged vehicles going over hilly terrain with a few splash zones and with native fauna running around near the track. That would be an Australian experience!
And yay to more seating in the grandstand at Tiger Island!!
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Initially, I was one of those pundits that was in favour of a re-theme of everything in the park to cater to a DC audience but the more I think of it, I'm totally against it. Its "Warner Bros" Movie World, and as such should incorporate themes across all their franchises. The SDSC was one of the best themed rides in the park, and based on my last visit there with the bare-bones version, it sorely needs its theming back. Even when I watch the movie with my kids, they scream out and say "Dad, we sat on those rollercoaster cars!" - it creates a common link between the rider and the movie and adds to the enjoyment factor immensely. If anything could be done to improve it further, I'd say give the main area of the coaster some more visual effects, maybe some 3D effects like you see at the Sydney Vivid festival, or at NYE when they project lasers over the water to create a 3D effect. Maybe some holographic ghosts? What do you guys reckon?
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In no particular order:
The Beast
Lightning Rod
Formula Rossa
Tatsu
Lost Gravity
Baron 1898
Maverick
Intimidator 305
Taron
X2
I tend to be a fan of immersive theming than outright speed so Baron, Taron and Maverick would probably sit higher on my list than the others listed.
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6 hours ago, Skeeta said:
To add to what @djrappa said the grout has no structural strength and the rods carry the full load of the supports. The supports work fine without the support ever touching the pile cap and the gap being maintained. The reason they grout under the supports is it completely seals under the support removing one of the elements that causes rust. (oxygen) In theory you could use loads of silicone but grout requires less maintenance.
Wow, that's insane, if the grout isn't meant for support, what's the load bearing on those rods??
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I was watching some themeparks videos on YouTube when I noticed that the TOT2 supposedly hangs at its peak height for a few seconds before being released - when did they stop doing this as I've never been on the ride when this happened. Here's a link to the video:
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8 hours ago, TomiJ said:
@Redboost do it!! Come to the Gold Coast in October, you can do fright nights as well.
Now that's an idea!! 👍
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Damn, I wish I was still on holiday so I could see all this up close. So tempted to put in annual leave for October....
PS. Awesome pics @themagician
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For those who have a VRTP Membership, are the differences in perks actually worth it? Lets consider that at its lowest price, I can get a VIP season pass for $69 vs annual cost of membership at about $120 - does the $50 difference make it worth it? I'm aware that membership gets added discounts and other perks and there's the monthly option to pay, but I'm only an annual visitor, twice at most if work sends me up north for the week or there's extra money in the bank. Just thinking that paying by the month with added perks might be an option for the family rather than just dumping a lump sum when renewals come up. Thoughts?
13 hours ago, iwerks said:Another thing that bugs me about the GC parks is processing of entry for day or season passes. Why's it such a mess?
I like DW's idea - you present your printout at the gates and scan for entry. If you have a season pass, you can go to their membership hut near Pandamonium between 11 and 3pm and get your photo and passes done then. Gets you into the park faster and gives you time to do your passes later when its less busy rather than wasting 30 mins (MW I'm looking at you) or so lining up waiting to get your passes processed. Or you can just do it once and then renew your passes annually and just keep using your pass the following season.
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As I've stated before, the family man in me loves DW - the attractions, staff and layout make it it more family friendly to me whilst the thrill seeker in me selects MW. If DW could just add a family/thrill ride, we could have the best of both worlds in one park. I loved TRR but understand that it couldn't remain open - but that ride or something along those lines is what DW needs - an exciting ride that the whole family can enjoy. Not necessarily heart pumping, but enough to give you a "fizzy feeling" (ala James May) and not make you apprehensive about riding it.
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I got a copy of the park map when I was there last week and the parkway patisserie is listed as open so I guess they must've pre-empted it's opening.
And yay to more seating in the grandstand at Tiger Island!!
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Has there ever been a value placed on Dreamworld if there was a buyer interested in it? Either pre or post TRR?