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2 hours ago, kujotess said:
No one is factoring that a significant reason (that VRTP will never tell guests) of many rides being closed is actually due to low staff, and no one wanting to work and be abused by guests while getting paid minimal wage. They’re currently advertising again for another intake of operators due to obvious extreme turnovers of staff across the board.
Indicative of a terrible work culture. I've come across many a shitty customer service workplace in my time, including places like Bounce. Some figure out their culture, making you feel supported, valued and leave you with a desire to come back irrespective of the crap you have to deal with. Others stink and make you want to quit.
Minimum wage hospitality/service is always going to have seasonal recruitment drives for casuals (school holidays etc). Thats common sense. If they cant open rides during Winter, which they have before, because of a lack of staff, thats more of an indictment on the state of their workplace culture then any lack of wage or amount of crap they cop from guests.
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10 minutes ago, DaptoFunlandGuy said:
I disagree, though I respect the opinion. If I consider something like Superman and something like Steel Taipan, I actually enjoy the experience of Taipan more. The accelerator launch is intense, but it's over quickly and then its just a section of track with hills in it designed to slow you down a bit before you hit the brakes. Taipan on the other hand, the launch builds, and builds, and builds, before giving you the same bunny-hop experience. The ride time is longer as a result too.
Although the pure acceleration from 0-?? is wild, I also enjoy the 'booster' acceleration of an already moving train - the reverse launch on Taipan is quite something, IMO.
I do believe the rocking launch with the spike will be a better ride experience. The nerfed comment just means it's less powerful. Accelerators kick you up the arse but are generally one trick ponies.
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The Launch is so nerfed. Spike will be sick though.
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Regarding those unopened coasters, from what i can gather, dynamic attractions went way over budget building them (and mission ferrari at Ferrari world) which led them into bankruptcy. It also doesn't help that Disney cancelled the ip that Genting wanted to use for them requiring a complete retheme. Im sure there'll be some sort of legal proceedings going on behind closed doors, and no one is going to want to come in and finish the project until thats finalised, especially without access to Dynamic's unique product patents.
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19 minutes ago, wikiverse said:
Yea, Doomsday sucked and was a bad choice for the park, but that plot of land was well-themed when it opened and it deserves a better ride than a Surf Rider.
I agree that area deserves something better than a Surfrider - or an Intamin twin hammer - but making the best out of a bad situation would be, imo, throwing in the towel with Doomsday and putting the Surfrider there because: a) You need an attraction semi reliably running in your (debatably) most well themed area to justify its build cost. b) It gives people a reason to go down that end of the park (since Scooby has gone down) other than solely as a thoroughfare to WWF, decongesting the front of the park (and feel free to correct me if i'm wrong but i think there's a whole 'the further you walk, the longer you stay, the more you spend' thing Disney believe in).
If the Flash was a long planned installation then yes, the helix is a better place to put it, but given the context of both Scooby and Doomsday's non operation, and as purely a filler, I believe that area of the park would be much better for the 'new' installation.
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3 hours ago, Levram__ said:
I can tell you it wasn't a knee jerk reaction. The relocation had been in planning since August 2022. It had two proposed locations at MW, with Superman being the most viable.
One of the pro's was certainly that it added an attraction to the ride line up in the absence of Scooby. However unfortunately Scooby's fate came around much quicker than both Village and Mack anticipated. I'm not sure if its been mentioned previously but Scooby had been in planning with Mack since 2021, with the hope that it could continue to be supported by the OEM until Wizard of Oz opened. The rest however is history.
Hate To be that Guy, but where did you source this information from?
If Flash wasn't a knee-jerk reaction to Scooby's problems, and something that had been planned for any period of time (which seems unlikely given they refurbed and rebuilt it up the road before moving it over), the absolute dogshit attempt of village to theme it is even more of a joke then the 2D comic art would suggest to the untrained eye.
And where else could have they reasonably put it in the park?
All signs point to: Scooby carking it -> oh crap we didn't plan for the refurbishment of it at the end of its natural life cycle -> we have an extra ride up the road -> bring it down -> put it in superman's helix so we can attach some bullshit marketing slogan to the ride -> fail to open it in a timely fashion during availability crises.
IMO, it would have made more sense to remove doomsday and put it in that plot if space permitted, but i guess 'closest roller coaster ride to a western themed log flume in the southern hemisphere' doesn't have the same ring as ' first ride within a ride' even if the former is more true...
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1 hour ago, Baconjack said:
or look at the coroner’s report on these things. Laws are in place to make sure pre-2016 dreamworld cannot happen so this comparison is baseless.
That document is one of the more shocking and eye opening pieces you will ever read. Not so much for the gruesome details, thats a given, but the general complacency and neglect of the park through their maintenance team, lack of training and poor procedural expectations/knowledge. Dreamworld deserved every dollar and bit of backlash they copped, its just absolutely devastating it took 4 lives to bring their malpractice into the limelight.
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13 minutes ago, Baconjack said:
They are also not closing down WB Kids permanently to save money.
They're closing just about everything else it seems...
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This is Actually insane. To think they moved a coaster over to cover capacity loss from Scooby, just to piss fart around with it like all their maintenance jobs and not have it open, along with everything else. It's deplorable that they'd have the gall to both open the park and charge full price knowing families won't have the foresight to check what's running. No park in the world gets away with this crazy level of shithousery, nor do they let themselves exhibit such poor function in the first place.
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6 minutes ago, Naazon said:
Maybe VRTP just aren't tequila fans?
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4 hours ago, DaptoFunlandGuy said:
I don't disagree with you, however the metrics I was working on was in terms of 'choice'. It's clear just looking at the carparks where people are choosing to spend their time (and money).
The tide is definitely turning though, for the reasons you mention.
Can confirm -
Current review scores on trip advisor and google (note the scale is compressed, total review score out of 5)
Trip Advisor Google Average WWW 4 4.4 4.2 Dreamworld 4 4.3 4.15 Sea World 4 4.2 4.1 WnW 3.5 4.2 3.85 Movie World 3.5 4.1 3.8 Paradise Country 3.5 3.9 3.7 I suspect this one post has displayed more patron analytics then anything VRTP marketing has drummed up for themselves over the past few years.
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21 hours ago, Tricoart said:
or they could reuse the plan they had for WoO & have it be Joker
Sorry to interject, but what were the original plans?
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4 hours ago, REGIE said:
If trident was from a good company and had faster operations and just overall better reliability it would have worked.
As far as looks go it looks sick. Seaworld needed a tower type thing. But it just flopped . I haven’t even ridden it yet! It’s always closed or 1hour+ wait. And I can’t imagine it would be worth that wait when you could be on the coasters.
I kinda wish it was a Larson arm drop tower or something else but seaworld is more of a family park I guess
When i went earlier this year, on a school day as well, trident was at no point under a 45 minute wait - despite the fact that the line only ever looked half full. It seems like a very aesthetically pleasing yet functionally lacking attraction.
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Shame to hear Hair Raiser runs so rough. Glossy smooth when I rode back in 2014.
As for the state of the park - Its quite sad. The Arrow looper was 37 years old so had lived its life, but the other rides in the summit were perfectly operable when closed. Ocean park had been crippled pre-covid by the Hong Kong riots and the downturn in tourism from mainland china that it caused, as well as the genuine competition that was starting to pop up from the mainland.
I believe they are planning on selling off the summit and the area near the old Mine train to a private developer/operator who are then going to operate certain attractions on a pay per ride basis, and this company had no interest in operating larger rides - or those similar to the Disney style of ride - so Ocean park just shut them down.
P.S that mine train was just as beautiful as it looks.
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Abyss, the largest investment in the history of the park, opened in the days before the castle burnt down. The castle being an unpopular attraction of little to no value ('Mr Shaw said the structure had been there since Adventure World opened 31 years ago and could not put a value on it.') It was dead weight in a park run by a CEO ready to spend and expand, of which an old castle sitting on centre-park prime real estate was off brand. See this post Quoted By @Iwerks for more context. I feel like it'd be at least a little naive not to be at all suspicious of the incident, given they received their insurance claim as well as attempting to sue the fireworks company for $1 million, a lot more than its actual value, which id argue was close to nil.
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'How to (allegedly) offset the value of the largest investment in your parks history with an insurance claim on a dead asset and a lawsuit against a subcontractor'
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Over here in WA, we have Landgate Map viewer Plus -> Buy aerial imagery;
https://map-viewer-plus.app.landgate.wa.gov.au/index.html
Surely there is an equivalent in Queensland?
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12 hours ago, Slick said:
I tried to get John Longhurst to recall some information about it on a few occasions - what I've been able to cobble together is that he got exclusive rights to build a Corkscrew Coaster with Arrow Dynamics to do a midway style install similar to Cedar Point or Nagashima Spa Land where the corkscrew would head over the top of the pathway. During the construction of Dreamworld, he had a corkscrew fabricated to see how it would look in person, hated it, and when Keith Williams called about building one, he gave the rights away.
Interesting to think how that would've shaped the identity of Dreamworld, or if he had the funds he wanted, had built a castle instead of leasing the land to Kenny Lord to build Thunderbolt.
Having a corkscrew fly over the midway would have been iconic. Did the Arrow looper go on to become corkscrew at sea world?
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4 hours ago, Baconjack said:
Abyss was a bit rattly when new, can’t imagine what it’s like now.
Abyss is terribly rough. I'm talking arrow looper with square wheels rough. I have about a ride a visit and even thats too much, it just hurts.
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Thanks All for your helpful responses. I did have the option to go a week later, but opted against it when I saw VRTP maintenance period starts on the 3rd.
Had I been able to get longer off walk, I'd definitely have liked to go to Dreamworld. Good to hear the parks are quiet this time of the year!
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Hi all, just after some advice for my upcoming gold coast trip. As I'm only there for 4 days, I'm looking at getting a 3 park 3 day village pass. Dreamworld, to me, seems like a bit of a waste of a day with GD down and my only real interest being ST. ideally I'd obviously stay a bit longer, but work commitments unfortunately hindered my ability to do so.
This is My first time on the Gold Coast as an adult, so any tips or advice you guys can give me (where to eat, rides to hit first etc.) will be greatly appreciated. The trip in Question is occuring 30 Jan - 2 Feb.
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Could it have anything to do with SE's block zones? Given its a bit older and shorter a ride, there could only be 3 - load/unload (lets call this A), preshow (B) and the high speed section (C). A train would have to enter Block zone A out of block zone C before another train could enter C from B and so forth - hence the waiting period at launch track until the train ahead reaches load/unload. As far as i can tell from POV's, theres no mid course break run, nor is there brakes in the preshow, so i do think that math adds up.
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On 19/05/2022 at 7:27 PM, Tim Dasco said:
Adventure World has submitted a Development Application - Public Amusement - New Amusement Ride, Relocation of Existing Rides and Site works. Interesting to note it says relocation of Existing Rides and glad to see a New Amusement Ride is coming. Interesting to see what this becomes.
Interesting...The only ride i can realistically see being moved is the drop tower? Very low ridership and just kind of sits there not doing much, could be better suited in the middle of the park if they finally decide to level the old castle instead of keeping it hidden behind scrub. Would also free up leftover turbo mountain space for future development.
On 20/05/2022 at 9:05 AM, jddc7 said:My money is on a waterslide next to Kraken. But good to see
Seems likely. If you look at aerial photographs, the path up the hill is obviously designed with an extra slide in mind. However, the design of Kraken doesn't leave much room for said slide - hopping off you'd be quite a distance from anything. It would also appear krakens exit pool was only deisgned for the one slide.
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All this deliberation and conjecture about where the tops coaster went...only for it to turn up scrapped in someones backyard.
But where did it come from?
The image above was taken at the (very much defunct) Atlantis marine park circa 1985.
Did this coaster go on to be the dragon at Tops?
And if not, does anyone know where it did go?
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Wizard of Oz - Movie World Arkham Asylum Replacement
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From a bit of googling, a family boomerang in 2020 cost 4.5 Million AUD, and they got two of them. I recall Mark Shaw years ago saying on here that when you bring a coaster to Australia you essentially double it's cost due to our labour/material prices etc. I cant find any information about the SFC cost but i think it'd be fair to assume the 3 of them would cost somewhere around 25-30 Million AUD, although i reckon I'm going unders there.
The Figure they spat out probably included the cost of AA demolition as well because you know big number good.
When you consider Taipan cost 32 Million, it's a pretty good deal to cop 3 Coasters and a whole new themed area for only 50.