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15 hours ago, DaptoFunlandGuy said:
But when Jurassic Park opened, the machinery didn't eat the guests.
This is a really dumb argument when you think about it. Should dreamworld not get a water ride outside the water park ever again because of the accident especially one of a type that’s never been built before at our parks?
A shoot the chutes is not a rapids ride and most of the modern ones employ a standard roller coaster chain lift & anti rollback which makes the machinery eating the guests impossible. You know like on Wild West falls?
the fact west continues to get a massive line shows that the appetite for water rides still exists.
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6 hours ago, New display name said:
As much as I would like a new water ride. It's not the ride to convince people, who still don't trust DW, to come back to the park.
The consensus dream water ride - a well themed shoot the chutes - I'd argue will bring people back.
Jurassic Park helped set attendance records for USH when it opened. There's certainly precedent.
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5 hours ago, New display name said:
@themagician I'm thinking of all the rides in the world and wondering, why why does the vintage cars require a roof? Does the roof obscure your view? At a guess the roof is to protect people from loose objects coming off JR but surely there is a better way.
DW can't be doing this because they think it looks good.
Whatever your opinion on roofs are I think we can both agree that the end product of the vintage cars show Dreamworld has come a long way with retrofitting roofs on rides.
As for the "they are model t ford's not off road cars" upon a quick google image search of "1920s off road vehicles" i think the cars will look similar enough to what comes up on there. Model t's were also used for off road purposes by the army, so if you think its that, there's a fair bit of historical context that allows it to fit the theme (such as: the explorers purchased some really old vehicles from the army and are taking tours around the jungle in them)
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2 hours ago, Ash said:
100% motorcoaster has to go, a retheme in my opinion is a waste of money. An amazing water ride integrated into Rivertown would do wonders. But as others have stated White water world needs some love to
The dry park needs water rides (or rides to cool you off in summer) too. Gone from 2 to 0 within 5 years.
WWW can wait for all I care. Their slide lineup I reckon is still better than wet n wild and younger on average. Wet n wild took 15 years to catch up and install a hydro coaster and they don’t even have a bowl of any sort yet, Www will be fine all that they need is a lazy river
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12 hours ago, jjuttup said:
You underestimate the sheer stupidity of the GP and the fact they WILL find a way around it. Because life uh? finds a way.
Could you explain for me how a guest can get around a metal detector being swiped around the front and back pockets of their pants and around their jacket? Or the big walk through ones like what you see at airports? Unless they don't work properly I think they do their job spotting phones, wallets, keys etc.
12 hours ago, DaptoFunlandGuy said:My experience at USJ in Summer is a little different. As far as flying dinosaur went:
- 4 people were at the entrance to the queue line. Some were checking express pass entries, some were directing guests to the test seat, and all of them were waving frantically as if their lives depended on it.
- Another worker was at the end of queue merge before the lockers directing people to the 'briefing' spaces
- 4 workers occupied the briefing spaces, holding laminated cards with instructions in multiple languages informing people to remove everything from their pockets, and then issuing them with locker barcodes
- An additional 2 workers patrolled the lockers to assist with locker issues
- 4 more workers manned the handheld metal detectors prior to the final queue line. Even with this many cast, short queues formed in front of each worker to be permitted into the final queue line.
- Then one grouper, and two restraint ops per station
I should add that they allowed the piece of paper used to unlock the locker to be kept in a pocket, but a slightly larger piece of paper with an express pass barcode had to be placed in the locker. Naturally it wasn't metal so on subsequent trips we didn't bother to put it in a locker and it never fell out because it was inside of the fall-resistant locker paper.
Yes ok, blah blah, USJ gets more people than MW so not as many staff required - but MW still gets similar wait times to USJ and TDR so I think its a fair comparison on the numbe of staff required.
Valid point I visited in a quieter time than summer so there was obviously going to be less staff on. That was from that point on for flying dinosaur - lots more staff were present earlier in the queue.
The walk through detectors like you see at the airport should be on Superman at a minimum. You don't need extra staff on for that as the usher at the entrance can check for things when they come up. When the station is renovated to have the lockers at the midway point, just move the thing to that point in the queue.
Rivals and green lantern you can do what USJ does with hollywood dream and give the restraint ops metal detectors that checks riders after putting stuff away and before they get in their seat. That's the only way to make sure everything comes out and prevents guest-related delays in the boarding process.
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2 hours ago, DaptoFunlandGuy said:
Just being devils advocate here, but not all stacking is the fault of the crew. Guests constantly board the ride with things in their pockets, or dally around with their loose items.
I absolutely agree Village's standard operating procedures don't really allow the Ops crew to be 'fast' but station delays are inevitably caused by guests a lot of the time.
Why do you think the Ops spiel at the top of their lungs to the queue repeatedly about things in pockets, etc?
Having visited USJ yesterday
it shocks me that our parks don’t have metal detectors of any kind before boarding and especially on newer rides.
You’d think having sections of queue planned from the start to have a set of those airport-style metal detectors before you get on the ride would make sense. There’s enough staff during summer to run that, universal had 1 person do it on flying dinosaur. Then you have 1 usher, 2 people checking restraints, and someone on controls. Or even the Hollywood dream method - before you get on you get the metal detector check after putting your loose items away and before you get strapped in.
having this would completely eliminate that issue.
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Is the WWW gate to the right of the car park not open anymore?
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Having 3 majors open when private schools nationwide are starting to finish for the year is pretty poor form.
Hoping the issues are fixed in the next week or so when people start showing up in large numbers
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6 hours ago, casey96 said:
New video up from Movie World with some POV footage of Flight of the Wicked Witch. I don’t like to judge before things are complete, but the fact they have barely touched the old white shed facade of the old Arkham Station where the three coasters are is concerning. It feels like there is no immersion in the land at all outside of the queues and the plaza. It’s just surrounded by white sheds. I hope they do some landscaping or theming around there to make it feel nicer. Wild seeing how immersive Jungle Rush looks in comparison to this. Will hold judgement until it opens though.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DDEQUnJJZQ5/?igsh=OHUxbG8zbWs3c3V5
Whats funny is that the shed was painted in a rusty colour when originally built for lethal weapon, so they clearly went into the effort of repainting the building (and recoating the white parts of it)
Go away green (like what Dreamworld did with the side of the jungle rush building facing Tiger Island) would have looked better
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T bars have seatbelts underneath covering the lap iirc. Dragster would have had them & xcelerator would have them otherwise ASTM compliance wouldn't be achieved.
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Dreamworld only being open for 7 hours a day in summer is horrible. You're probably looking at the busiest summer for the park since 2015, with a new ride being added to the mix that's going to have people line up for 1.5-2 hours for it because it is new. Minus half an hour or so for lunch that's a sizeable chunk of someone's day taken up by 1 ride. If you want to ride Taipan, that's a majority. And you're including a water park in the mix too - for the price of admission you aren't going to get on much.
Movie world being open for 8 and a half is better but if Rivals gets 4 hour lines like it did last summer, people are for sure going to feel like they've been ripped off. The onus is on the park to keep operations consistent with the amount of people they're letting in
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On 29/11/2024 at 10:55 PM, TV15 said:
The seatbelts on SE are completely unnecessary, they can be undone at any point in the ride. Essentially a piece of mind feature. If they're not needed on a ride don't have it. It slows down ops. FSF was delayed due to the secondary restraint locking system (the seatbelt) it's a clever, completely custom design that doesn't allow for the seatbelt to be undone during the ride.
Legally speaking in most parts of the world rides of Superman's level of thrill are required to have fail safes in their restraint design which is what the seat belt is for. All accelerators are delivered with such to be compliant with regulations. No idea what the go is with australia standards but I'd assume they are very similar to what you see in America and Europe.
18 hours ago, Levi said:one thing i’ll never understand is not being able to do up our own seat belts, especially with rides such as Superman and Rivals. people have been doing up their own seatbelts on Superman for 18 years, and Rivals for 3 years before covid, atleast Steel Taipan and Flash actually opened with those rules (even if SurfRider didn’t have that rule.) i wonder if we’ll be able to do the seatbelt on fotww ourselves or not.
Rivals if i remember right is manufacturer best practice. Superman and flash are caused by the insurance broker
In any case i love to complain about this too but companies are money first and you have to make it work. The buck stops with the managers. They should be the ones keeping their staff engaged to get rides out as fast as possible because 4 hour queues in summer is unacceptable and insulting to customers when you don't get anywhere near that anywhere else during a peak period. Unfortunately what you get is apathy - whether this is the owners/execs passing it down to them or incompetence on their part is anyone's guess
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On 26/11/2024 at 8:56 PM, LoZza said:
Yeah but it's not just Wicked itself, Wizard of Oz as a brand is just timeless. Harry Potter is popular but that's pretty much all you'll get with the Wizarding World brand since JK hasn't really done well critically outside of the initial series
Popular is the understatement of the century.
Getting Potter was a game changer for universal and nearly singlehandedly made them a disney rival. Even many years after opening Potter related attractions are near the top of ridership at each of the parks. The fact USJ had timed entry for potter land up until a decade after opening speaks volumes on how big of a brand it is.
Oz rides on an old movie that a lot of people haven't seen (myself included), a musical that people who don't go to theatres have no clue what it is and a movie based on that which has come out this year while sure is making money isn't lighting the world on fire. It's also been tried at a theme park before - USJ - and it lasted 6 years.
It annoys me how people on this forum are engaging in mental gymnastics to suggest the biggest IP get in theme park history doesn't usurp oz instantly. It's a cool land and something different but it's not reinventing the wheel
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2 hours ago, Ashley Jeffery said:
Was there ever a reason given why the stage 2 plan never went ahead?
No but if i were to guess the GFC probably put it on hold then the transition from macquarie bank to ardent killed the whole thing for good.
As we know dreamworld spending (both on a day to day operational basis and in terms of capex investments) dropped off after that transition and i don't think the regime at the time would have had the ambition to spend $$$ on building all of that
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If you respray the model t's and make them look a bit weathered then they are ok I suppose but they don't fit the theme
It reeks of running out of cash because too much money has been spent on jungle rush
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Lazy river has been in the works for yonks and has taken many forms. The adventure river was just the latest example.
in terms of pre 2016 dreamworld and where the entire park was at, they’ve spent the last 3-4 years cleaning up the park from top to bottom and there’s still a few rides to replace on the dry side. Of course there’s no capex for the water park because it looked quite nice while a ride on the dry side killed people. Clean up the dry park first then look to renew WWW.
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On 27/11/2024 at 6:30 PM, TV15 said:
Staff now shout, "Do not touch your seatbelt," when loading on Superman Escape. They now buckle the seatbelt for you.
Wonder if this is a manufacturer recommendation from Intamin or it is another insurance broker’s decision given there is no precedent on other installs throughout the world I am aware of
Anyone in here manage to get a ride on Kingda Ka and can provide some insight?
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21 hours ago, themagician said:
It is, but it’s been happening for decades. It’s probably easier to list the rides that closed that they announced would be retiring, but here’s a list of what I can think of that has closed without notice:
Looney Tunes River Ride
Arkham Asylum/Lethal Weapon
Batman Adventure: The Ride
Bermuda Triangle
Sea Viper/Corkscrew
Pirate Ship
SkyHigh Skyway
Sea World Train
Monorail
Mach 5
Aqualoop
To be fair Mach 5, LTRR & Batman all had contracts for their replacements signed when they closed. They of course varied in quality but at least they were there.
Cant say much about the others which have either taken years to get off the ground or still sit as empty plots.
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5 hours ago, LoZza said:
A shame they don't have it operating until they knew what to do with the area.
You new around here? Common practice for Village Roadshow
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4 hours ago, DaptoFunlandGuy said:
Movie World is getting absolutely review bombed today by a bunch of German visitors - did I miss an invasion or something?
I feel like they could have managed their expectations better if they'd done a little research beforehand.
Lol the germans aren’t wrong. The Mack family runs Europa park at Disney level efficiency with numerous common models to movie world and across the village roadshow chain generally. Why doesn’t village upper management take a trip there on their next purchase from them and observe how they do things?
Hilarious how inept village has been at this when movie world gets similar attendance figures to many parks in Europe and yet hasn’t ever figured out you can dispatch a coaster train in less than 5 minutes. You want to be world class you should act like it. World class theme parks don’t have half the rides shut going into the busiest period of the year. People coming from overseas take the piss out of how we do things.
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On 16/11/2024 at 10:38 AM, TV15 said:
This makes me wonder about the future of Superman Escape? It’s 19 years old this year and will hit its 20th anniversary next year. Will next year be its last?
Zero chance. Superman doesn't have the downtime the stratas experience and has generally been quite reliable because it is smaller.
When it comes time to replace it (10 years or so) it and Flash can be replaced at the same time. I wouldn't rule out Zamperla or Intamin doing a conversion along with renovating the dark ride section given the LSM conversion hasn't had many issues on smaller hydraulic coasters and the dark ride section needs a lot of work
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On 12/11/2024 at 9:18 AM, BNErider said:
I'm no horticultural expert, but I hope we see some greenery that is not the same low maintenance, boring plants we see planted at any new commercial development. I want it to feel like I'm in the jungle.
Wait a few years for the plants to grow then you’ll take this back.
I have always maintained that rivertown as a theme will look better in 3-4 years time than on opening day. Every park known to man looks barren on day one then the plants grow and provide natural shade. Everything will look better with a bit of weathering.
I think it’s a bit of a silly expectation for an Australian park to install mature plants in a new build area considering how expensive it is to do so.
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Have nearly 2000 hours on the original planet coaster so this was a day 1 buy for me.
The features added are awesome (particularly pathing and scenery) but have limitations (hard to make intamin accelerator cars look like commodores unfortunately the scaling is a bit limited for those specific details). The content is pretty bare bones as well It's quite difficult to really detail this pub I'm trying to make in my Australia DCA-style park. Will get much better with DLC's though
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10 minutes ago, ShakeShack said:
This is a great sign that we will be getting this entrance opened again! How good.
How so it’s been pretty well established that the main entrance is next to superman
If anything this is just that extra path that spits you out next to scooby, the exact same one in the arkham days.
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You’d think the usual 2 month block for superman is not enough time to rebuild the trains and renovate the queue?
Could see it down until June