Baconjack
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1 minute ago, Aw hype said:
It almost seems like they chose that location to make the park seem smaller and less open. I figure they are keeping the gold rush theme as yellow sorta does indicate so. To the GP it will be like a 2020 HWSW minus the concussions. I guess BIG 9 is a thing again too
Again, as said, the yellow track is only an indicative render. It is subject to change , DW have stated this themselves.
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2 minutes ago, red dragin said:
Orange and dark greys. Some kind of poorly executed tiger theme?
Well I wouldn't think they'd build a tiger themed coaster so far away from Tiger Island...
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Well a video is up, a full POV (sorry to steal your thunder here Slick). No surprises here, but this confirms it be going in TRRR and Eureka's spot and not where the Ampitheatre is being pulled down. It will be right next door to Buzzsaw.
Something interesting I observed is that Hot Wheels is nowhere to be seen in the render, yet nearby rides in Ocean Parade like Claw can be spotted. Could it be end of the road for that coaster, facing the axe before TOT?
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4 hours ago, Skeeta said:
The monkey in the room needs to come out.
Is DW installing local council pool quality slides?
Skeet says yes.
Well DW doesn't have any good body slides that don't cut your back so Ardent is patching up a rather obvious hole in their lineup. Local pool slides have really stepped up a notch in the last few years too. Any body slide these days could be considered 'local council' material.
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1 hour ago, Jamberoo Fan said:
Well it seems to be in the Thunder River Rapids area like I expected though it's rotated 180 degrees (that is, instead of a south-north launch on the east side, it is a north-south launch on the west side).
I do think the GCB is inaccurate in saying the Whitewater World expansion has commenced construction - there are no applications or works underway. Just the hole in the ground where the now cancelled/delayed lazy river was supposed to be.
As far as I am aware, Blue Lagoon has not been demolished. It has not received approval nor has Gold Coast City Council received an application. Only the Big Brother Studios area has been demolished and that definitely had approval. Unless it is because they were initially planning to build a new amphitheatre and then cancelled it and then the Big Brother House got burned down so they just decided to demolish the Big Brother Studios anyway, the reversed twisted halfpipe might feature on that plot of land with the reverse launch section extending over the Dreamworld Express train line/shed?
A new ampitheatre was originally intended to go in TRRR's site where the coaster is going now. I wouldn't be surprised if all of Blue Lagoon ends up being pulled down to fit the coaster. I do not think TRRR's site will be enough space to fit all the layout in.
As already said there is ground work being done near Cave of Waves which is where the new tower will be going. No supports or slide pieces on site for now but construction looks to be on track for a November/December 2019 finish and I wouldn't be shocked to learn DW is getting the ride ready for the busy summer season. Slides don't take particularly very long to build especially when compared to bigger stuff like coasters.
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9 minutes ago, loki75 said:
Sounds like Mack Rides Operation Enterprise at Movie Park Germany
It won't be Star Trek. Star Trek only goes 85 km/h and its layout is substantially shorter than 1.2km.
The layout in the Bulletin article is a blatant giveaway. It is more than certainly a Blue Fire clone.
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I'm confused...
QuoteThe design is based on the highly successful MACK Blue Fire Launch coaster which operates in 14 locations around the world including Europa Park, Disney Hollywood Studio’s and Cedar Fair Carowinds
So Copperhead Strike and Slinky Dog Dash are Blue Fire clones now?
QuoteThe Southern Hemisphere’s first multiple launch with stall and reversed twisted half pipe
▪ The World’s first separate spinning gondola attached to the rear of the rollercoaster train
▪ A 1.2 km long track with multiple inversions and achieves a maximum velocity of 105 km/h
Blue Fire isn't a multi launch coaster is it?
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Thunderbolt 2: Electric Boogaloo?
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14 minutes ago, pushbutton said:
Why should it be themed to gold rush? That was just the name of one of the old areas in Dreamworld, but there's plenty of other themes.
As mentioned previously, my money is on Dreamworld axing the Gold Rush theme altogether when the masterplan takes effect. With the two core attractions of that area now gone, that area is virtually dead. Gold Rush gets a new theme with the Blue Fire clone's addition with Buzzsaw either being removed or rethemed. Not only that, but keeping Gold Rush could possibly conjure up memories of the TRRR disaster and DW want to move as far away from that as possible.
I could suggest integrating SV into the new area with an aviation theme. Theming the Blue Fire clone to WW2 era aviation would be a very unique and interesting concept in Australian theme parks if executed correctly. If they want to keep a general 1800s era theme, why not try one-up MW down the road and make it a Wild West area? Plenty of possibilities to give that area a new look.
@Gold Coast Amusement Force , rocky hollow is a different part of the park to Gold Rush. Log Ride and Giant Drop are part of that area.
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Spinning car?
Hard pass. I think DW will try to emulate MW's success with DC Rivals Backwards and do a backwards row on their own coaster.
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16 minutes ago, MickeyD said:
Hell yes!!
This ride looks like a tonne of fun and a really smart choice for a Coaster DW! Not to mention it will give them the opportunity to quietly retire TOT, if that's the plan.
I still wonder if the old Gold Rush site will be the location or could it be the former Thunderbolt /defunct Lazy River spot?
I do not think there will be enough room in that spot to fit the ride now that we know the exact layout. Where the Ampitheatre and probably Blue Lagoon is being ripped down is where the coaster will be going.
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Well that's some really good news. A Blue Fire clone is a great marquee attraction that Dreamworld really needs, and a good coaster for Australia in general really. It'll be a great attraction considering they are investing $16-20 million.
12 minutes ago, themagician said:That’ll be awesome and the perfect kind of ride for DW. I do hope it is themed to gold rush and it uses that land that had river rapids. Bring it on
I believe DW will axe the Gold Rush theme and build a new area on the site. But again, the results come tomorrow, so we'll possibly see what is the park's future then.
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Kids area needs a refurb. Give it all a new coat of paint and some theming updates with the same IP in mind. They havent added all that much in 20 years. It all looks so old now, in desperate need of a refresh.
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The new giga for Kings Island just got announced.
FYI. The brake run on this coaster is taller than anything at Alton Towers.
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JFC dude. Calm the farm. People on this board spent nearly two years speculating what DC Rivals would look like from every detail and awaiting the layout reveal patiently (as long as it was).
Things take time. It'll come, and I don't expect the full plan to be dropped immediately either. This master plan will probably take a decade at least to fully pan out and will be completed in stages. But that's what you should come to expect from this industry. I wouldn't be surprised if the announcement of some aspects of this master plan isn't far away considering they are already just starting to prepare for stage one of the project.
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4 hours ago, AlexB said:
My bet is they're not new. They're easily more than 18 years old.
or, new to the internet at least.
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I found a video of someone's construction pictures of Cyclone and a couple Thunderbolt demolition pictures while scolling through Youtube this morning. I thought it would be cool to share. His channel has a small amount of DW content but these photos are probably totally new.
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There isnt all that much space around the station area, but it could be used to plonk another ride in Dreamworks as that is right next door. New KFP flat perhaps?
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Well it's looking as if the writing is on the wall. Well it has been that way for a while so I can't really say I'm surprised.
The best way DW can handle this is by announcing a closing date in advance and give the guests the opportunity to get their last rides in. Especially for a ride as iconic as TOT, its the least they could do. Then announce that new flashy coaster they have been planning in the same time frame to distract the guests from TOT's closure. I recall saying at one point TOT's closure could be a PR disaster waiting to happen. Here's hoping DW pulls their socks up and doesn't screw it up.
I wonder what might happen to GD as a result of this. Would they be able to rip down TOT while keeping the DW tower standing for GD to operate? Or maybe they'll close that too (*stares in Falcon's Fury conversion*)
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the run off pool looks like a WHS disaster waiting to happen. there probably isnt even enough length for guests to exit the green slide safely. Gonna need to be some strict weight restrictions methinks.
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8 hours ago, Slick said:
As I mentioned in the video I did a while back, whatever they build will be instantly stacked up against Rivals, and if it doesn't have a marketable edge then it's throwing money at the wall for no good reason. I'd go as far as to say that changing the game on their marketing strategy from mysterious and and secret to fully open and transparent (like Energylandia did with their Hyper) would be a great way to buy them the time they need to do this right and not whatever they can get their hands on first. Doing the latter appeases the bosses in charge in delivering a profitable short term vision, granted, but it's a poor strategy for guests in creating a once in a generation ride.
Exactly the reason why DW should be buying something with inversions. Neither Superman or Rivals go upside down. Should maybe go for a high inversion count just so DW can claim 'we have a coaster that isn't crap and goes upside down heaps of times which none of our competitors have'. Why not buy a clone of the smiler or takabisha if they want to do it on the cheap. Still prefer Vekoma's Shockwave layout as my top pick for something off the shelf though.
Having the public decide what the coaster should be is a fantastic move but i don't see that happening, especially from the folks at Ardent. You'd get maybe the active members of this forum and a few others voting on what the coaster should be. The GP really cant tell the difference between different multi inversion layouts to be honest.
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On 23/07/2019 at 4:43 PM, Skeeta said:
For now I'm going to be taking this with a grain of salt until we either get an announcement or DA's popping up. But let's analyse.
$15-20 mil should on paper build a good Vekoma coaster. Or a Gerstlauer Infinity Coaster. An RMC woodie could be on the cards too as that would fit the budget, as is an RMC Raptor. S&S is also a possibility but the Green Lantern problems have probably scared Australian customers from buying their rides. Remember that this amount of money mentioned more than likely includes the shipping costs. It is most likely these four manufacturers are in the equation as it is highly unlikely Dreamworld are paying more than $15 million for a Eurofighter or Thunderbolt clone.
IMO it is safe to rule out Mack, Intamin or B&M. Mack is a fairly premium brand these days. Storm cost $20 million to build and that was five years ago. DC Rivals cost $30 million. Even the smaller Mack coasters like Icon and Copperhead Strike were expensive. B&M is even more expensive. You couldn't even buy a Batman clone with $20 million these days. I'd say a hyper is off the table at this stage too. $20 million can't buy you a hyper, if DC Rivals cost $30 million and barely passes what constitutes a hyper, $20 million wont get you anywhere near that.
This isn't a bad thing though. Vekoma have been making some solid rides lately and have some compelling layouts. Sure its no DC Rivals but it is probably on Superman's level I'd say.
On 24/07/2019 at 9:25 AM, Edward_marker said:It better not be a Zamperla Thunderbolt or a Zac Spin coaster maintainance heavy and very rough.
The Zacspins in Europe are apparently good rides from what I've heard. The reason why they have a bad reputation is because when Six Flags bought one they fucked around and modified the ride cars by adding weights to water down the intensity of the ride which resulted in exorbitant roughness. Also I'm fairly certain Intamin don't make these coasters anymore.
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The ride involved in the Indian accident was more than likely a Chinese/Indian knock-off pendulum ride. It wasn't one made by a reputable manufacturer as it doesn't look like Intamin, Zamperla or Mondial's offerings. The ride probably was welded crappily hence why the weld failed. The reputable European manufacturers have good enough quality control to check weld quality. Most notably, the ride parts, including the arm that holds the gondola in place, are engineered properly to support a full load of guests. Something the manufacturers in third world countries don't do.
Also the culture towards amusement safety, obviously, is probably very different in India compared to what it is here.
An important thing to note for the public to note before these two accidents put off chances of riding Goliath or Claw.
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Thunder River Rapids Incident Coronial Inquest
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And it comes out just a day after DW announces $35 million + in expenditure to be spent next year, the biggest investment in over a decade. How convenient. They were waiting for this to happen, weren't they?
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