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14 minutes ago, themagician said:
I’m already thinking about how they could do this. I’d love to see the original Lethal Weapon entrance reopen. That alley becomes the yellow brick road and leads into Main Street and it create a fully immersive area with the attractions. I’d be happy to see them close the access from Superman to achieve this. That keeps the DC area seperate from this and creates an exciting journey into this new land.
Wouldn't this be too disruptive to the Super-Villains precinct? If my memory serves me correctly, the entrance to the alley you speak of is now blocked off by Killer Croc...
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2 minutes ago, themagician said:
Other than some small kids rides in Kids WB and the Junior Driving School in 2013, the last non-DC attraction was Scooby which opened 20 years. Great to see new attractions will finally be themed to something else.
To add to that, I believe this would be the first ever non-Disney park to add an Oz-themed attraction. 🌈
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Genuinely excited if it is Wizard of Oz-themed and hugely relieved they're moving away from DC Comics. Ties in nicely with their recent efforts to capture the spirit of the "golden age of Hollywood" as well.
My money's on (and fingers are crossed for) a fully themed Oz precinct (yes, the dirty word) headlined by the new coaster/s, with a couple of small, family-friendly attractions in the supporting cast.
Despite the apparent foreboding pessimism of the Parkz community, I'm stoked to find out more.
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8 hours ago, Dean Barnett said:
Untamed at Walibi Holland is 120cm, and more realistic for something that scale to be at MW
Right... but you're the one who specifically brought up Zadra, not me. 🙄
7 hours ago, Rivals said:I feel like something like Fønix at Fårup Sommerland would work great in this plot of land. People who have ridden the ride have said it’s extremely smooth, not too intense and a great choice for a kids first big coaster, it would sit nicely in the line up and i feel like it would be such a great fit if the coasters aren’t what we think they are.
Agree. It seems there's several Vekoma models that would work well in this plot of land, the Wildcat being one of them. Five or ten years ago, who'd have thought that enthusiasts would be holding out for a new Vekoma to come to their park? 😉
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8 minutes ago, Rivals said:
from my experience it works very randomly, most of the time right after it’s maintenance period it’s working, then after say a month it’s on and off randomly
Last time I rode was in January '20 and the water was working. Maybe their plumbing miraculously starts working again for peak season?
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On 15/07/2022 at 12:10 PM, Dean Barnett said:
F.L.Y. would be mega cool but it’s way more expensive. Zadra (a massive ground up RMC) cost $10m euro - cheaper than rivals - and again shorter kids can go on them - and they have elements we don’t have (zero g rolls/stalls maybe even a jojo roll)
On 15/07/2022 at 9:19 PM, Dean Barnett said:Luckily there’s a whole bunch of footers spare now!
No reason why height limits need to change country to country - the trains are designed to be safe for a specific height for riders globally.
I’m also for unaccompanied riders to be based on age not height too. The only reason is to keep some sanity during ride stops / Evacs.
I tried to find an accurate estimate of F.L.Y.'s total cost and couldn't, but I will say that the price tag of the ride itself would be well within VR's means. The issue would be budgeting to theme it to the standard of a F.L.Y./Taron/VelociCoaster attraction. Not going to happen. Even if VR slipped and fell into a pot of gold, given the Gold Coast parks' recent propensity towards shed stations and carpark coasters, I wouldn't hold my breath.
Zadra's height limit is 140 cm, which is not that short, and taller in fact than DC Rivals. Although when I was there a couple weeks ago, I met this lovely Polish guy who was taking his ten-year-old son on it (it was the kid's birthday!). When we got to the station, the kid literally stretched for the heavens and just scraped the requirement. He made it back in one piece. I told the guy to ask the kid if he was scared, and he gave me a big, enthusiastic "Nie!".
What that height limit tells me though is that a medium- or large-scale RMC hybrid (which may be within the realm of affordability) may not be that desirable. They'd need a 120 or 130 cm ride to really fill the void in their lineup. F.L.Y., by the way, is 130.
I remember a couple years back seeing a boy about the same age in tears outside Superman because he was just shy of 140. The mum was like "we'll come back next year" but you gotta feel bad for the kid. Safety be damned, I'd have let it slide by a centimetre or two. To be fair, those height limits exist because of the technical limits of the restraints. There's no way a seven-year-old can be held in place safely on a big coaster, so you can't blame park ops for being strict.
59 minutes ago, Gazza said:Doesn't Poland have lower labour construction costs?
Yes. Although their currency has lower buying power, so that would inflate the price tag, no?
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Heartbreaking news. While there's about a one in a billion chance of an accident like this this happening, the rare occasion that it does is still an absolute tragedy. Fourteen is far too young. Thoughts are with her family.
I hadn't heard of this manufacturer before. Anyone know what their track record is like? It'll be interesting to see what becomes of this and whether the fault lies with park ops or the manufacturer (or a combination of both...)
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On 10/07/2022 at 7:44 PM, Baconjack said:
At first I detested the idea of getting 3 coasters in the same category as Roadrunner, but I've warmed up to the idea of the suspended family coaster over time. I hear decent things about the model in question and it fits the family thrill ride category at MW (currently only occupied by Scooby and WWF) like a glove
Can confirm. I suppose not many enthusiasts have had the chance to experience these yet... I've recently returned from an overseas trip and paid a visit to Energylandia (!!!); I nearly missed the Dragon SFC but got one ride in just before park close and it was a huge surprise. It is a very decent family coaster with great theming, a good kick on the first drop and some nice positives on the helices; naturally it's not super-intense but it fills the niche between all-age attractions a la SDSC and the big thrills of Rivals et cetera. If it's themed well and can pump out a decent capacity with at least two trains, an SFC could be the big sleeper hit we didn't know MW needed. The only question is whether it would be able to "distinguish" itself enough from Escape from Madagascar; the new generation is obviously far superior but they are still of the same family...
(No pun intended).
20 hours ago, pin142 said:You need to remember that there are active film studios and a loud coaster coming as close as you suggested isn't the best of ideas. Arkham caused enough issues when it was operating for productions. I have a feeling the new coasters will be lower to the ground resulting in possibly less of an issue with noise.
Just curious, how would building close to the ground specifically negate a noise issue? Noise is determined by speed not height, and naturally you're going faster when closer to ground level. I agree though, based on first-hand experience, that the hybrids run loud, especially as they get low to the ground. 😎
I wonder how much difference would, say, a Raptor make? Would be interesting if anyone has first-hand knowledge of the decibels a Raptor's "roar" produces. To me, they seem to run quite loud as well, although I can't imagine they would be significantly louder than a rickety old SLC...
8 hours ago, rappa said:I think the addition of Rivals more than counters the loss or Arkham.
Except that these are very different ride experiences, so MW has lost something that won't be replaced in its line-up. Where else in the line-up are you going to experience multiple inversions, high positives and a shoulder fracture all in the one ride?
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7 minutes ago, MWgirl247365 said:
LPS?
Luna Park Sydney.
KUWTA!
(Keep Up With The Acronyms) 😃
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Just now, MWgirl247365 said:
I highly doubt the announcement will be about Arkham’s replacement
We highly doubted LPS would see a complete reinvestment. 😉
In the words of our modern-day oracle Justin Bieber, I will never say never.
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Would Arkham's plot be large enough to house a ride of this size though?
9 hours ago, Naazon said:As much as I love this ride, I don't think its a good Arkham replacement
Gotta agree with @DaptoFunlandGuy and I've said as much before. The enthusiast in me would love to see another big, world-class thrill coaster to replace Arkham and if they ended up announcing, say, a Vekoma flyer or an RMC single-rail, I'd be pumped. What the park really needs, and what I'd be just as (if not more) excited for, is a really high-quality, themed family attraction. That's the big hole in MW's lineup.
@MARK28's suggestion would clearly be a great fit for the park. There's just the question of size and cost. I hadn't heard that Movie Park Germany was getting a new coaster until he posted this; perhaps this was drowned out by all the large-scale Intamin and RMC openings this year (including those that COVID pushed back from 2020).
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Not sure what thread to put this in. Apparently Surfrider is being retracked and new parts have now arrived on site.
I don't remember hearing anything about this?
Photo courtesy of Gold Coast Theme Parks.
Edit: Found the other thread 😅 Mods feel free to delete....
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19 minutes ago, Jamberoo Fan said:
'7News Spotlight - Ride Of Your Life' was watched by 571,000 viewers in the 5 major capital cities (Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Perth & Adelaide) last night.
That data is based on a population sample representative of 62% of Australia's population.
Taking into account the 38% of regional viewers missing from that data, this should equate to 921,000 viewers of the program nationwide on Sunday night alone (Regional ratings are released on a weekly rather than daily basis so this is just a guess).
In the 5 major capital cities, these were where most viewers were from:
- Brisbane - 114,000 (4.6% of Brisbane's population)
- Adelaide - 58,000 (4.3% of Adelaide's population)
- Melbourne - 201,000 (4.0% of Melbourne's population)
- Total 5 major capital cities - 571,000 (3.6% of combined population of the 5 major capital cities)
- Perth - 60,000 (2.9% of Perth's population)
- Sydney - 138,000 (2.8% of Sydney's population)
Timeshifted ratings would be released over the next month which would give a better picture but at this stage, only a small percentage of the country would have seen the program so at this stage, the Australian theme park industry shouldn't be affected by the program.
It's definitely some respite and further solidifies that the status of Seven's current affairs programming as the value range 60 Minutes is not changing any time soon.
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I flagged their social media ads about the program for spreading false information. 🖕
Having voted "slightly skewed to a negative angle" on the poll, I am dismayed (yet unsurprised) to have been proven so very wrong. If we'd indulged ourselves to put aside Natalie Lowbarr's Razzie Award-worthy existential bitch attack upon disembarking Valravn, or the
BoganLogan wildebeest's smug proclamation that it was "no accident" her daughter's abject disregard for basic slide safety protocol caused injury (regional public schooling, folks), there still may have been a prospective forty-five minutes of impartial and informed insight into the dynamic world of the theme park industry.What we got instead was undiluted revenge porn. The true insult to injury was more than just the flagrant sensationalism and bias, but the complete lack of objective data about ride safety, and the narrative dubiously spun to shit all over the Australian park industry at every opportune moment. It's like their version of investigative journalism and fact-checking was to watch a series of clickbait "Mom NEARLY DIES On Slingshot Rollercoaster Ride OMG MUST WATCH!!!@@#11" videos, whack themselves off, take lunch early and call it a day.
I'm not convinced their level of research went any deeper than 30 minutes on Wikipedia and it showed. The exposition into coaster/park history was so hackneyed and there was not a single statistic presented on rate of incidence. Freak accidents happen and those responsible should pay the price. Luna Park did and Dreamworld did. Why augment that to portray our parks as some nefarious conglomerate hell-bent on profiting off injury and death? Why was that even the focal part of the program? Well, we already know the answer.
There was an opportunity to maybe end the program by looking forward in a positive light. Growing pains aside, Australia is amid an amusement park renaissance right now. Look at the stacked year we have ahead of us. It's totally unprecedented. Not an iota of airtime (pardon the pun) was spent looking forwards or highlighting the growth our industry has undertaken or the hard lessons it's learning. Instead, we get a ham-fisted montage that convolutes the entire message of the programme , Natalie sadfacing on the bleachers and a segue straight to Grant Denyer in his tinfoil hat and his big-boy pull-on nappies. Hard-hitting. 🎢
1 star out of 5; recommend avoid picking up out of 7 News' heaping discount bin of
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52 minutes ago, TimmyG said:
Geez I knew I would get flamed for my opinion. Calm down everyone.
I think most of the responses have been measured. As @themagician more or less said, you absolutely have the right to an opinion. Clearly there are strong feelings to the contrary, so perhaps that's a good prompt to expound on it.
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Just saw an ad run for the program. They literally cut from a shot of TRRR to various coasters' POV footage with an interviewee (an enthusiast I think) being quoted "People think theyre going to die on these things".
Yes, it's going to play right into the GP's assumption that riding coasters is an inherently risky, life-or-death activity.
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8 hours ago, TimmyG said:
I think my point is being missed. Rivals as good of a ride as it is, is not a world class ride like depicted. Not only that, it’s presentation is very much off note for what we should be expecting from the park. At the end of the day, it’s a good coaster for the market, but it’s an average hyper coaster by world standards, and unlike the other rides of the park, it doesn’t have any decent theming to back it up. Where is the rides magic? There isn’t any. I say the same about Green Lantern.
It feels very much like a six flags ride, a plonk there, put in a garden, call it a name to suggest it has a theme and story, but in reality it has an incredibly weak story that it’s not even worth mentioning.
Im happy with Superman replacing the SFX show, to me it has the magic, even if the courtyard is average. However it came at the expense of an attraction that “everyone could ride”, and I feel. An updated SFX show should have been put on in a new location.
Movie World used to be a park where you didn’t have to ride the rides to have an enjoyable day out, now it’s a place where you have to ride the rides, there’s very little “showmanship” inside the park. The rides shouldn’t have come at the expense of the showmanship. That is why I rate current day movie world to be piss weak.
Like pretty much everyone else here, strongly disagree with your conclusion that Rivals is an average coaster by world standards. The theming (and the god-awful name), I could take or leave. However, if you want a world-class hyper in terms of thrills, Rivals is right up there. Is it the world's best? That's subjective. But I do think it is in that elite echelon of hypers with Superman The Ride, Expedition GeForce, Mako et al in terms of layout. That's even before you even get to talking about the backwards row, which gives an entirely unique frame to critically analyse the ride. You will find common ground with many here about Movie World's current attractions offering; the general lack of movie magic is something others, myself included, will concur. Oh and, yes, GL is ass. But we all know that.
4 hours ago, MrLukeCarroll said:I'm curious to know what you think those rides are? Looking at the Coaster Bot rankings from 2020 Rivals came in at number 12, which is pretty decent for a ride in the middle of nowhere for most Coaster enthusiasts. If you look at the 11 above it though none of those are Hypers so DC Rivals ranked as the best Hyper Coaster in the world last year?
SteVE, Zadra and Fury are all hypers in a broad sense.
3 hours ago, Brad2912 said:Not sure where these statues were previously, but they are now in the middle of the Scooby queue line.
Is it possible they were removed from the dark ride portion during the refurb and are now part of the queue?
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1 hour ago, themagician said:
Having ridden it, it is by far the most underwhelming coaster I’ve ever been on
Mick Doohan's Motocoaster has entered the chat.
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42 minutes ago, Brad2912 said:
pretty sure its going be memorabilia/throwbacks of the last 30 years as part of Hooray for Hollywood
I imagine that would be a limited-time exhibit, no?
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While we're at it, I do have fond, vivid memories screaming my lungs out on WWF and Batman Adventure. The studio tour was a super cool immersive experience and PASS was a stellar highlight. This would have been 2000 or 2001, when I was 5 or 6, so any other attractions I may have went on I don't really recall. I'd like to think I went on LTRR but I'm really not sure. No way in hell I would have been able, or wanted, to do LW and I didn't get over my fear of rides till I was a teen. (I had PTSD from the Bush Beast when I was around the same age). Thinking back on that visit, while the memory is hazy, it does help clue me in to the "classic" MW era that more senior members reminisce and pine for.
13 minutes ago, Naazon said:Any announcements made will only be for Hooray for Hollywood. Future park plans will be made once the event is over.
I might have guessed. So, at best, we're still minimum five weeks from finding out what the next chapter in MW's story is.
As @joz mentioned earlier, the big gap in the line-up is a really solid family dark ride. Of course a new coaster to replace Arkham would be great (I'm hoping they have plans for both), but a dark ride would help soak up crowds and fill out the day more. Inevitably, if they're going the theme park resort route, they'll need a greater focus on family attractions going forward and to me that's a smart move.
We still don't know anything about the WB Studio Showcase replacement yet, do we?
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Is there any chance of more announcements today? Would be a fitting time to unveil the hotel, unless that announcement comes after Hooray for Hollywood.
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My memories are hazy; I only visited Sega World once and it closed when I was 5, but what I do remember is the high-tech and futuristic aesthetic. It was a really great family experience the day we visited. I seem to recall a Nickelodeon themed playground but could be wrong? That building was such an iconic part of Darling Harbour's identity and it was a shame to see it go.
Where would a new Sega attraction go? More importantly, does Sega have the relevancy now that it did in the 90s? I'd say no way. I think Nintendo would have the best shot at an attraction; just look at the amazing things they're doing with Universal over the next few years. And if it did return down under, I'd be surprised to see it come to Sydney since Barry and Gladys have made the CBD a no-fun zone.
In all seriousness, between the demise of this and Wonderland, there's such a gap in the market in Sydney that I'd love to see filled one day. If I was placing bets, I'd say there'll be some kind of theme park attraction near Nancy Bird airport within the next ten-fifteen years.
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Was hoping the same thing; Bugs looks great in gold!
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Wizard of Oz - Movie World Arkham Asylum Replacement
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Ah, my mistake. The Scooby entrance is the one (I think) I'm referring to. To my original point though, that's all sealed off now, no?