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  1. Tricoart
    Not 'travelled for opening day', 'travelled for the holidays after being advertised new rides that are open'. My group bumped into at least 3 of those families, at Sea World Resort alone, after barely using anything the resort had to offer during our stay. And Bikash himself stated that multiple hotels around Sea World have been contacting them, praising them for a huge spike in room bookings that they're attributing to the New Atlantis opening. So that'd have to be 2 pretty damn large families, if so.
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    Not the casual day guest, the holiday-goers and families who are taking trips to SW for the holidays as they're being bombarded with advertisements for 3 new, freshly open and ready-to-ride attractions. The casual day guest might see a soft-opened ride as open, barge past the A-frame, and get mad when it has a fault, but that's their individual fault for not reading the clear signs, and all an operator has to do is reaffirm what was already stated on said A-frame, and what most other guests already understand. But, again, as it stands families from across the country are making plans to/already holidaying on the Gold Coast, to ride 3 new family attractions that are as-of-yet not even known to be opening today. It's not the same.
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    Anyone there today to confirm if they're open/closed, or do we just assume the maintenance page is bugging out?
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    Yes, the crux of this whole conversation is about how the opening has been mismanaged, and how it ideally shouldn't be fully open in it's current state (i.e. held a soft opening w/ grand opening near Boxing Day), as it has led to the aforementioned mass disappointment. Not that they should chuck up an A frame now, or that they should remove any billboards/advertisements.
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    But, in the event that it is a soft opening/technical rehearsal/passholder preview, they're not being told that the ride is open and ready to ride. You either know it's open because you're in the circles that'd tell you, in which case you'd know the caveats of a soft opening, or you're at the park and see the A frame saying it's in technical rehearsal before it's already advertised opening day, so you know you're lucky to have caught it and have seen that it's not in it's final form, and that issues are to be expected.
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    And that they're marketing to families/holiday-goers across the country that these rides are open, having them come and pay those exorbitant costs for entry to the park, only to have the rides that were marketed to them be unoperational.
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    Testing without people/with dummies is good for making sure the trains themselves are operable & safe come time for guests to ride (hence, 'commission'), it's the system as a whole that's tested once the operation begins, which is when most systematic faults'd be brought to light. Having it soft-open to guests before the grand opening means any faults that arise from being cycled with guests will show up (and have the chance to be rectified) before hundreds/thousands of families make their trip to the park to ride a dysfunctional coaster.
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    Same, I was on the last train of Friday when it was nearly evac'd, then in the queue when it went down Saturday as well. They were very helpful, concise, and polite in both instances, nothing wrong with the ride ops behaviour there at all.
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    Add me to that list too. “Soft openings don’t exist, and I have been very stupid in the recent conversation, unlike Rappa who is a consistent voice of reason!” That’s a taste of what you could get, Bikash hmu
  10. Tricoart
    1) Soft openings don’t exist. 2) SW did everything right and all complaints are for nothing.
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    I think I remember that sign (unless if there’s another one), it was mostly saying that you can’t fly drones near SW within the helicopter tour operating hours.
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    And you haven’t? Because I seem to recall, only yesterday, you deciding that soft openings just don’t exist, that SW did everything right, and that all complaints are for nothing.
  13. Tricoart
    Every ride has to be tested & looked over a certain amount of times before opening, Levi has been opening late (assumedly) because of issues arising in that pre-opening period, and closing early because of the issues compounding once guests are boarding. Also, ⬇️ We know about as much as you do about how opening schedules are managed, they managed it wrong and other examples already given have managed it right. The only ‘example given on why things are like that’ that you’ve given pulling from a highly technical, innovative ride from Disney that goes down a lot, trying to say that it’s not right to complain about Levi going down as that ride does too. When, in actual fact, the main discussion about that ride is that it goes down a lot, because people inevitably get annoyed when that happens. And, with the other actual examples given for better managed opening schedules, a lot of Levi’s issues could’ve been smoothened out by opening with a soft opening/passholder preview, possibly negating most of the complaints entirely.
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    Okay, but Joker at SFDK both: - had a soft opening (4 days before official open). - is a regional, thrilling attraction opening at a Six Flags chain park, not subject to a country-wide advertisement campaign aimed at families and holiday trips. Yes, it can happen to any ride, but it could’ve been handled better, and might’ve had less of an impact if so. And, again, that’s coming from someone who was also there on Levi’s opening day, and was able to ride it more than once, so the idea of me not being able to ride it right now isn’t the thing that I don’t like. Families don’t know if/when to wait a month, it’s just “the holidays have started and there are cool new rides for us to go on at Sea World, let’s book a vacation there and go on ‘em”. That’s what has already been happening, and that’s what I don’t like.
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    I think the point they’re trying to make is that you don’t make those billboards for a set date until you are sure the ride can comfortably operate on that set date, and until then keep it as ‘Rising Soon’, delegated to mostly socials and local advertising (e.g. billboard out the front of the park). And I understand the park wanting to advertise ASAP, because the sooner the better, but with 2+ years of delay, I can’t help but think they could’ve at least added some more leniency and not had it be so rushed & unfinished.
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    Yes, they had the extra pressure because of the previous mistakes they’d made with opening announcements, and that pressure would’ve stayed the same whether the opening date was the 2nd of December or Boxing Day. But, the later the date, the more catching up they could do on what they were clearly underprepared for. If I had to take a guess, though, they chose to set the opening for as soon as they could after the ride was scheduled to pass basic commissioning, and rushed the area to be as prepared as it could be, disregarding any issues that may occur as a result of the ride/ride crew not being properly accustomed. Which is what, assumedly, led to the issues that are occurring.
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    To be fair, though, Levi’s technology is new to its current staff members. With that being said, that is one of the many benefits of a soft opening/passholder preview, to get staff accustomed to the ride and its technology before the grand opening, and work out any kinks the programming may have. Also, despite the difference in technological advancement, people continuously complain if RotR goes down at Disney, like they are with Levi. It’s just the reasons that each ride goes down that is drastically incomparable.
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    Same deal here, felt like I might be too big for the Timberliner’s restraints, but just passed clearance. Didn’t know about the test seat when I first rode, though, but if you’re worried it’s worth a try before queueing.
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    It’s a much more simpler way of saying “The management decisions made for the opening schedule of DC Rivals (among other opening schedules, like that of Steel Taipan) were more thought out, planned, better implemented, and certainly more well-recieved than the management decisions made for the opening schedule of Leviathan, Trident, and Vortex, also known as the New Atlantis precinct (though, mainly Leviathan is under scrutiny in current context).”
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    Also, I believe everyone here recognises that SW and MW are both owned and operated Village, but that’s pulling at straws to think that nullifies the fact that MW handled DCR better than SW’s been handling New Atlantis. And I’m one of the lucky hundreds that got to ride it multiple times on the opening day, so I’m not personally affected by it not being currently operational. It’s just a fact that the way it’s currently operating is unsuitable for it’s grand, widely-advertised opening.
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    If Rivals & Steel Taipan had soft-openings/passholder previews (and, if I’m not mistaken, even Dingo Racer had somewhat of one), why is it so hard for some of y’all to admit that Levi should’ve had one too? Cause yeah, new rides obviously have teething issues, but just blatantly speaking, the ride shouldn’t have been marketed to families, interstate or not, for months to hold it’s grand opening on a date where it wouldn’t even be close to properly operational. Having an unpublicised soft-opening/passholder preview before the grand opening makes it abundantly clear that any early guests are lucky to be experiencing an ultimately unfinished & ‘alpha’ experience, thus any resulting issues/faults are to be expected and rectified before opening day. MW knows to do it, DW knows to do it, AW knows to do it, most global parks know to do it, why is it a point of contention as to if SW should’ve? Maybe it’s just my current distaste for SW (after coming back from a very unpleasant stay there) speaking, but IMO there’s just been fumble after fumble with how they’ve managed New Atlantis’s opening from the get-go.
  22. Tricoart
    JL is open, with the only noticeably unoperational effect in the queue line being the news screens behind a barrier before the main cattle pen. Will edit when off, but I’m not super knowledgeable on the ride so I may miss things that aren’t working as intended. Edit: Most effects seemed to be working to me, and a decent amount of hits were registering.
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    The worst thing I saw was, seeing as the exit dumps you right beside the main queue helix, there were people riding, exiting, ducking under the outer helix railing & skipping most of the queue, then riding again, for the entire first day.
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    I was thinking the testing might be for that too, but if it’s running 2 train ops for the Christmas party, it should be able to run 2 train ops for the following operating day
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    Crumb of good news, Levi was test cycling with (seemingly) two trains consistently for about half an hour before park close. Hopefully this means the issue has been fixed, and it’s fit for (somewhat) normal operation come tomorrow.
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