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The temp SkyFlyer looked horrible, and the restraint system was quite restrictive. I think Speed as a choice is probably a bit low capacity as a replacement for literally anything on the coast. I think overall i'd prefer if they didn't bring carnival rides in (except Olympia Looping - I'm sure many would sell their left nut if that ever travelled here), but at the same time if they had massive downtimes across multiple rides beyond their control, i'd applaud them for doing something to fill the gap. In several parks, Pooh is more popular than some of the mountains. The mountains can and have all gone down at once though... I visited Disneyland about 9 years ago (would have been april\may 2013?) and OSHA had just slammed the park for safety violations if I remember correctly. They were required to shut down Matterhorn, Space Mountain and Soarin'. Big Thunder was down for regular annual maintenance, and Splash had gone down earlier in the day unexpectedly. This was literally all the mountains out of action on the same day. It was my wife's first trip to Disneyland - and you know what? She had a blast. (We did have several days at the resort, so we made the most of our first day getting many of the dark ride suite in fantasyland, pirates, Mansion, Tom Sawyer, Indy, Buzz, and the rest of DCA etc. Everything except Space was back up the following day. Space reopened at 6pm on our last day and we rode non-stop until midnight.)
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You asked for the other comparisons. That's hardly 'walking away'. It isn't false. Your stance on promoting a charitable cause as part of a news article is that it: quote "seems insincere..." and "immoral" that in the end is "for the sake of monetary gain". Yet you are defending a park charging full price, but delivering half the product. That's not fuel to the fire, that's illustrating your contradiction. This is despite the park's customers, other enthusiasts, and every other major chain you cared to name doing precisely what I suggested, simply because YOU don't feel like its an issue. So while you might think you're clever paraphrasing my earlier advice to you - there is no room. It's just you. The only other folk who have added to this particular thread of discussion have supported my point of view. You're on your own... again. You asked a question. I provided an answer. I backed that answer with examples. I gave examples of current best practice in the industry. You rejected my example so I gave more that were to your liking but showed the same thing. Despite the fact that you agreed if what I was saying was true they needed to address it, you're now unfathomably saying you won't be convinced - so on the off chance you don't walk away... which is it? And if you do respond - i'd like to ask a question - What do you see as the reasonable justification for continuing to charge full price admission to a park that doesn't offer the full experience?
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:sigh: For a person who wasn't even aware this was an issue (and are likely unaffected by it as a passholder), you sure are fighting this one pretty hard. Disney was just easy as it was off the top of my head, is something most people are familiar with and are frequently held up as the standard to aspire to. The US SeaWorld parks have demand pricing with tickets ranging from $45.99 to $96.99. Legoland Florida costs $85 today, $90 the weekend of Halloween and $95 on Thanksgiving weekend. Knott's is $74 today, $79 the weekend of Halloween and $64 a week prior to Thanksgiving (the thanksgiving period is unavailable to purchase) Six Flags Discovery Kingdom offers one-day tickets ranging from $25 to $90 In summary - they all do it, not just the merched up moguls at Disney. Because charging your customer full price when you aren't offering a full product is a ripoff. Given your stance on promoting a charitable cause, i'm surprised you're such a polar opposite on this profit-making issue...
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Fair enough mate - but perhaps its time to reconsider your view. If it were to end with 'magical healing product for 4 easy payments of $19.99' or 'this religious cult is the answer to all your woes' then sure. But articles that cover charitable causes that say 'i struggled, until I got help from a do-gooder, and now we're doing good for others, and you can help too!' are not the same snake-oil salespeople and shouldn't be grouped into the same basket. The story isn't twisted - your view is. Do good recklessly.
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It's a movie quote which on reflection is quite dated for the average age of this forum. I wasn't suggesting you said it was, I was just pointing out that it wasn't hard to find evidence of it. Apologies for the confusion. I think you've misunderstood that part of the review. Tickets online are $10 cheaper than at the gate is what I read it as (because they are). If they are however offering the online price at the gate, they aren't really offering anything. Whether you SEE it or not, it IS a prominent issue, and to suggest that a 'year round park' is going to have closures, and that isn't a good enough reason to offer cheaper tickets when half the park is closed, just because it's off peak is laughable. Disneyland has SIX TIERS of pricing based on their expected peaks and current pricing online varies between $76 and $128 per day. Hong Kong Disneyland has peak and off peak pricing that varies EACH WEEK as mainland visitors pack the park Friday to Sunday.
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Given I referenced off peak pricing, you can deduce from that that I'm not referring to annual passholders who visit all year for less than double the price of a day ticket. So you can bet that I was referring to those who might have travelled a long way, and only have one day (or limited money) to spend to visit a park. Adult admission to movie world for a single day is $109 at the gate. ($99 online, but probably carries a transaction fee). As a day visitor, you'll pay that price on Boxing Day, or a weekday in August. So you'll get a lot more for your buck if you don't visit off peak. Like it's hard? These were all posted to google in the past 3 days. ...and 4 out of 5 of those have 2 or less reviews on google - which tells you they specifically logged into google to leave a review for movie world - THAT is how strongly they felt about the issue...
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White christmas and most of their other events like Hooray or Carnivale etc they've kinda got covered because of school holidays over those periods, but Fright nights for sure. The only other way to manage it is to go seasonal and get in a bunch of sub-contractors to get all the maintenance done in the off season, but I bet people would be complaining way more if the entire park was closed. It has been suggested before but perhaps they need to switch to an off-peak pricing in the low seasons when having multiple majors closed is more likely so people don't feel ripped off...?
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it is neither a way to give him money, nor is it his business. It's a not for profit pursuing registration as a charity. If a victim of the bushfires started a NFP to support other victims of bushfires, and they did an interview talking about their experience in the fire, and ended it with a plug for a group \ activity that helped them... not die, would you be so callous? Regardless of your response or answer to that question - before you reply, read the room. I doubt you're going to convince anyone otherwise - you've made your point, others have disagreed with it - walk away.
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DaptoFunlandGuy replied to Gazza's topic in Theme Park Discussion
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How would you rebuild Dreamworld?
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How would you rebuild Dreamworld?
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Circling back for a moment - you're saying that if it's done well, it doesn't matter if the theme is a bit old or irrelevant, right? but you do realise we're talking about Dreamworld here? Do you honestly think they could pull off Disney level standalones? And using Dreamworks as a quality yardstick is fine if you're dealing with a global property, but I don't think the folks in Fortitude Valley have quiet the clout to be able to command Dreamworks level standards. *beats head against wall* -
How would you rebuild Dreamworld?
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You said 'anything'. My main point was the longevity of the theme. Bluey currently has 3 seasons. I noted this was a fairly typical lifespan of a childrens television show, with now-cancelled shows like Hey Duggee having a similar season and episode count. In fact, in May of this year, rumors were swirling that Bluey would be cancelled as the voice actor's voice was maturing. The official twitter account for Bluey was forced to address this to state "we have no plans to end it. If we ever had an update... you'd hear it from us first" (now where did we hear that before? #Monorail) Season 4 is believed to be in the works for release next year, but I guess plans can always change. As for your question - why did I bring up Peppa Pig? Well, as far as longevity of a theme, and suitability for a themed area in a theme park, Peppa Pig is a childrens animated television show that has recently opened an entire theme park themed to the franchise. Peppa has been around for 18 years with more than double the seasons and episodes. It sounds pretty fucking relevant. -
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Madagascar: A little wild (2020) Kung Fu Panda: The Dragon Knight (2022) Shrek Retold (2018) Puss in Boots: The Last Wish (2022) I didn't say it was superior. I said it had more episodes and more seasons, and had just gotten its first theme park. I've never watched Peppa or Bluey, so I can't comment one way or the other. What I can say is it is obviously a successful pile of shit, to be in the position it is currently in. -
space mountain hong kong and california are clones. space mountain california and florida are not.
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There's only one thing you're proving here.
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The past 5-6 years has completely turned the theme park business on it's head. Since TRRR, new legislation, new oversight, coroner's recommendations, and a desire for every park, inspector and engineering firm not to get sued (and the resultant increase in insurance premiums) has made everyone sit up and take notice. A lot of the downtime can also be attributed to a delay on parts and shipping. Whereas in the past, the park electrician might have cobbled together something to keep the ailing water pump running most of the time, now, nobody wants to take that chance and prefers to just keep the ride closed. So it could be the new owners, or it could be the new eras.
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What you say is true - i can't see anything else working - but this feels short sighted. Bluey has 3 seasons spanning 5 years, which is a comparable (total) lifespan to many childrens animated series. Is bluey just beginning or is it nearing the end? It'd be a massive achievement for an Australian produced childrens animated series to go the distance, but it's risky - and isn't that why the discussion turned to video game characters? Peppa Pig on the other hand has 365 episodes across 7 seasons spanning 16 years. At this stage the show is multi generational and has just gotten its first theme park. For mine, I wouldn't want to be forking out a bunch of money if I weren't confident the franchise had a few more years in it at least. Well, shit - let's just get Mr Doo-Bee from Romper Room out - retheme MDMC with giant flowers and you're the bees collecting the pollen to make honey? MDMC's queue walls are already great writing tablets - no chalk required! All of this talk has been a great trip down memory lane (are you there god? it's me, Margaret), but I think that for most of us, the fact that we haven't thought about these in You're right, but -
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Agree, Sonic would be a far better property than Crash if you could get your hands on it. A quick look at the Sonic Wiki suggests that there are many licence holders out there but not anything specific to theme parks. Paramount are the current film rights holders, so its possible. Probably pretty expensive though given the brand's popularity. -
Nobody is bashing anybody? what thread are you reading?
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Aqua Racer was built in 1997. They replaced the slide pieces in 2017. Aqualoop was built in 2010. By that metric you've got another 8 years to wait for replaced pieces. Its a cosmetic issue. It doesn't affect the operation of the attraction and theme parks on the gold coast aren't exactly well known for fixing things just because they don't look cosmetically pleasing. If you think some sun-faded slides are the biggest eye sore across village properties, you're walking around with your eyes shut.
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I like yellow and hate white. Definitely diminished the experience for me. A white water slide is going to be a bitch to keep clean. Repainting Superman made it look better - but that was only compared to the condition it was in prior to the painting after more than 15 years baking in the sun. It looked like new - which is to say, it was returned to it's opening state, rather than any enhancement. You can't paint aqualoop. this particular point has been discussed many times, the slide is translucent, and painting it will pretty much turn it into the black hole with loops.
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If that's the case there'd be a lot more in-park closed than just Scoob. It's an interesting situation then isn't it? The ride is scheduled for a long downtime, presumably to refresh the attraction, and it suddenly goes down early, and they already know it won't come back up again before it's scheduled downtime means either there may be some truth to the theories above, or the ride has had a major failure that is going to take a long time to fix. (To be clear, i'm not suggesting it is unsafe, or that the failure is anything as a result of neglect - just one of those unexpected things that happens with rides occasionally that takes ages to fix due to supplies or whatever. It's the length of the downtime that makes it a 'major' failure rather than the detail of the failure itself).
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The New Atlantis - Construction Updates
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Does changing the ride from Yellow to White improve the quality, value, or extent of the attraction?
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The New Atlantis - Construction Updates
DaptoFunlandGuy replied to themagician's topic in Theme Park Discussion
What warp? Thats entirely normal! Haven't you seen Q1 on Sky Voyager?
