DaptoFunlandGuy

Don't be ridiculous! What makes you think they went to business school?

We're in Coffs just before Christmas so hopefully we'll get a chance to check it out

I mean, you called TRRR into play by referencing "this day and age" and "inquest" and "death". But it's irrelevant. "Village won't change" - that's the issue we're discussing. They need to. They don't want to and they won't, but that doesn't alter the fundamental point of this discussion is that they should. Village have developed the perfect business model - charge people a small fortune for a product, but then don't deliver it, and say "but look at how safe we are!" If left unchecked, eventually they'll just remove your wallet and phone from your pocket at the gate, and tell you to go home expecting you to feel great about how safe they made everything by simply closing the park while you continue to pay for it. I sense the frustration in your tone enough to know that we aren't coming at this from opposite sides and we both agree how shit Village's culture is in this regard. I'm just saying 'something should change' and you're saying 'but they won't'. Both are true. You're right that this took root long before private equity came in, but the compounding issue that private equity brings is this: Private equity won't do that.

I think what you mean to say is "works to repair the long dilapidated and rotting timber deck that used to be outdoor seating are still ongoing"

I wonder what they're waiting to put in here behind the test seat...

I've said it before, and i'll say it again - Polo shirts - done in a nice modern dri-fit \ wickaway fabric. See Nike or Under Armour golf shirts. Given this thread was a year ago - I would have hoped Village might have taken some of it on board. If the ride still has fog\haze in the disco room, there's always going to be residue.

It's a management cop-out to push this narrative though. You've destroyed your efficiency, you make guests wait hours for something that is unnecessary, you keep charging more, and giving people less for their money - and is a complete fallacy. A courageous person would be confident to stand in front of the Coroner and testify that even though the incident happened at X point in the ride, nothing the supervisor could have done would have changed the outcome until the train reached the brake run. (Let's not forget that the ride time is just over a minute and almost half of that is the lift hill). If that isn't good enough, or you want to go further than that, install additional E-stop mushrooms along the station wall so the operator can reach it from any position on the station - or a pull-cable strung down the length of the station like they do on quarry conveyors so you can pull it no matter where you are along the length. This is the problem with people doing risk assessments with only the direct cost in mind. Someone did a risk assessment on TRRR and concluded that many safety upgrades were needed - but due to cost, they decided not to do them all straight away and went with what they felt was the most important features first (they were wrong). A lot of the TRRR safety measures that had been implemented were administrative controls - and keeping the supervisor at the panel - when it is clear that first, it makes no difference and second, it hurts your guest experience - when for a little extra cost you could upgrade the attraction to eliminate the issue, is pathetic. If you're going to knee jerk your way into tanking your capacity, then spend the money on additional labour so the supervisor can stay at the panel, AND you have another station attendant to check harnesses to keep the trains moving.

$5 after 5pm rocked at Wonderland back in the day. Not sure annual passes make that metric work very well these days, but you can do it successfully.

A bunch of social media pages have published photo updates as the park offered a tour of the nearly completed attraction. I can't link to the pages but Theme Park Girl posted a huge photo update. I think TPG did a great job of taking photos in the latest update and a sneak peak on the theming \ storyline, with the queue themed around a ferry terminal (and I really got that vibe looking at her pictures!) I'm really impressed with the theming i've seen here - for a flat ride, they've gone to a lot of effort and I can't wait to see it in person. My only concern is what appears to be a lack of shade in that transition area between Main Street and Ocean parade - The Claw had some mature trees along the pathway while the new entrance path has paved over all that. Some shade in this area is really needed, I feel.

Yes, but all usually dip out by around 2pm, and I did say 'in earnest' I've seen load held up because someone was trying to shove the worlds biggest backpack in front of their feet. We know they have new trains, there may not be the space for baggage that there used to be. As long as the grouper has people lined up at the gates when they open, I think this will actually improve load times. Unload will similarly improve if the loose item boxes are behind a gate - unload can dispatch the cleared train while people are getting their stuff, instead of waiting for the guy with the big backpack to extricate himself from the far seat.

I'd love to know where you get your stats from.

And it makes absolute sense - there is no MCBR. As soon as the train leaves the lift hill, there is absolutely zero you can do to prevent any mishap or accident until it hits the final brake run, which is automated and failsafe - The train will stop no matter what (and if it doesn't, nothing the operator does will change that). Some genius who has no idea about efficiency decided that the supervisor should stay at the panel 'just in case...' without ever finishing that sentence. They probably got paid thousands too. See - the seatbelt thing at Rivals - I don't agree with it but the liability issue makes sense - physically plug in the seatbelt, do it in front of your co-worker, and you've both witnessed a proper push-pull check of the main restraint lock, and then attached the seatbelt. You've got two people who will testify the harness was down, locked, and the supplementary restraint was engaged. It's why if one loader stops because there is an issue, the other one doesn't keep going. Taipan takes this further - the RFID swipe proves the operator was present for the seatbelt locking and the computer records it. These examples both make absolute sense from a liability standpoint. Keeping the RRRC op at the panel until the other train parks is absolutely pointless.

Other than the RFID scanner on Taipan, I thought they were essentially the same?

Sounds like efficiency has gone down if the supervisor performs harness checks but can't leave the panel until the train reaches the brake run. You might as well just run one train. So yes, the dual harnesses would reduce throughput as the supervisor needs to check their side.

I don't mind that sort of scale for LPS which can be ghost towns on certain days. Providing a large incentive for people to book early helps them plan their rosters well enough in advance for staff to cover the necessary loads, while rostering less staff if sales are low for a particular day and rotating attractions rather than opening all attractions all day. Unfortunately the side effect is someone who does attend on the spur of the moment means they pay more for a worse product, but LPS has a small workforce and they need to ensure they balance this where they need it the most. Village on the other hand has no excuse to be running alternating attraction schedules or understaffing attractions given their attendances tend to be a lot higher and should cover the bare minimum. Unfortunately that's all they ever seem to deliver.

And it quite literally lines up with the price reduction for day tickets. They're quite literally charging $10 extra for additional entertainment.

Geez that thing must be really broken. They're going to have to work all night on it to bring it back into Village operations standards.

I don't care who you were replying to, and i'm not assuming your comments were in response to mine. However the moment you made the argument that the WNW tagline was ok because it was true - I knew at some point in the ongoing debate you would reference TRRR... and you did exactly what I knew you would. But it's ok if it's true - you said so yourself? The point is there's no difference and it's all semantics. By saying "look at us we are the biggest and we are the best" they are saying "look at the competitor park - it's smaller, and shit" I call both parks out on their shit, and I have no links to either park. I play devils advocate when you unreasonably shit on the very company you bought shares in, but I have always called it like I saw it. On the contrary, a little friendly rivalry and one-upmanship is the most likely way you will get your wish. In the same way that one park offering a $99 annual pass forced the hand of the other to do the same, the same vein that one park building a big thrill ride to attract guests leads the other to respond. The joke about Village always being closed for maintenance rings true. Because it is and has been for some time. It should spur them to be better. At any rate - like your argument on WWW - you've made your position abundantly clear that you don't like little theming details (at this rate your version of a dark ride would literally be a carousel with no lights in a dark room) - So in short, we get it, we understand what you're trying to say, most people in the discussion disagree with you, and its unlikely either side is going to change their mind - so let's just stop going round in circles now - given we're likely going to see technical rehearsals any day now, k?

I knew that was coming, that's why I told everyone to Good natured digs in the spirit of competition aren't a problem. It's a case of whether the topic you choose to target would pass the sniff test... @New display name you stink.

You clearly don't, but as is usually the case around here, that's nothing unusual for you. https://tenor.com/bLs7G.gif

Yeah look - you're not wrong. They technically haven't discounted tickets during off peak because the regular day price hasn't gone down. Typically though, this time of year is when we start getting "beat the price rise" style advertisements. So they could have put all day prices up to $139 as part of their annual review of pricing, but instead they opted to keep cheaper pricing in off peak. So it sort of is, sort of isn't.

I think you meant to say Wicked Witch has come out of Maintenace.

I mean - Wet N Wild literally has the slogan 'Biggest N Best' which only came about after WWW got built. Good natured digs in the spirit of competition aren't a problem. It's a case of whether the topic you choose to target would pass the sniff test... (wait for it....)