DaptoFunlandGuy

*cringe*

Does this change things for this thread then?

Except adventure world perth.... Seriously though - this has been debated endlessly. Jamberoo themselves call it an 'Action park' and the wiki description is a water theme park. Honestly the park themes things better than other stuff we've got in Aus - but I think "Action Park" is still an apt description.

"Saving face" is 100% characteristic of the culture.

Honestly all our parks seem to do that.

Possibly not, but actually opening the ride might.

Nice thought in theory. In practice it might show them that people will willingly pay astronomically inflated pricing for a lacklustre phoned-in event (if that's what it turns out to be) and if that's the case, it won't encourage them to do better next year. I'm sure they'll release more dates if the current ones sell out. Drifting off topic a little - but I wonder if there's any ability for them to take advantage of WOO once constructed with a 'Twisted Land of Oz' themed precinct or maze. A cornfield \ Haybale maze seems pretty easy to put together and Scarecrow seems like a no brainer.

Didn't they turn off the water effects ages ago? Surely that isn't still contributing to it's woes?

Expect WB Kids to be closed. WWF has been closed in the past - likely will this year too unless the upgrades changed anything. Most of the big thrills at the front of the park are open, and scooby. Expect ride queues to be stupidly long - including Scooby for some weird reason.

Absolutely agree the park probably won't reduce the number of tickets available unless forced to by covid or other requirements (unlikely), but you're spot on - I am saying the higher price might reduce the number of people. Fright Nights is no longer included as a freebie in the annual passes (Memberships still get this though), so it will be interesting to see if they continue to sell out, or if they struggle and drop their prices...

I'm ok with the price increase. I've always felt FN was far too oversubscribed and it was difficult to 'do everything' in a night without paying premiums for fast track etc. They can always reduce the price later if they don't get the uptake they wanted, but the very affordable season passes of previous years cheapened the event, IMO.

I mean, it's been said before - apparently if you want the international market, you should build a Koala research centre. 100% this. I'm not enthusicyclopedic. I don't follow non-local parks that closely until its time to book a holiday so when I see something overseas, unless it made headlines for some reason, I don't know where it is, or what its called, and a lot of the content farm channels don't say it, so I then have to spend time googling or reading the comments to find out. Ironically the worst offender for this is TPR - because they know what it is, you're an idiot if you don't know, and if you ask, prepare to be flamed.

I'm not sure ABC Kids would go for that angle.

They've still got vehicles on the site, but it has the makings of an awesome area. Given what they've done with previous installs, I feel confident that they'll plus this beyond what is shown in the video, and i'll wait to see what it looks like on launch day.

Where the cows go 'bong' ?

Even without going through Storm as you suggest, the footprint is a pretty easy out-and-back coaster layout. Put your station where flume station was, lift hill goes roughly along the splashdown route and then layout, return, brakerun, done. Not sure families would agree with you - Trident is still pretty confronting for people - especially due to the height.

I didn't realise we had quotas? 😮

@moderator needs a like button. 🤣

For the record that was my entire point in that example: Removing the risk where practical. You say practical because many things are possible but it doesn't mean it should always be done just because it is possible. I have trained in Working Safely at Heights for over a decade so my safety conscious side understands where you're coming from but i'm also a realist and "the absolute most safest solution" isn't always practical. A handrail cannot be installed on a train track. Inspections sometimes require access to areas that cannot be made intrinsically safe. The video you provided showed him using a redundant safety line, and he was inspecting items inside the lift rail\channel at a distance of about 8 inches from the track. Heck - maybe he normally does that with the safety car right beside him but they moved it for filming purposes? He's clearly not on his own up there and help would quickly arrive if he were to fall onto his safety lines. As for the other videos - i'll give you the following: We're all well aware that safety regulations in other countries are less strict than our own One of the videos you tagged was literally titled 'illegal' so I don't think you can point to that as being an accepted standard Ride safety has certainly come a long way and you can see that in newer rides and retrofits to existing rides - Green Lantern's ladder is a perfect example of a practical resolution to a risk that wasn't considered or engineered for even 10 years ago As for foreign maintenance workers - just like risk management, there are ways to remove, reduce, and control the risk. You're clearly very passionate about maintenance being done properly and I can't fault that at all, but to suggest that all foreign maintenance workers would somehow be yahoos or cowboys when almost every ride in Australia was designed and built by foreign companies who just so happened to write the maintenance manuals followed by Australian engineering and maintenance teams. It's all academic anyway as it's not actually going to happen like that for reasons already covered.

They're not falling down 30 metres.

They could fit Surfrider in there pretty easily. They clearly have no interest in operating it at WnW. The castle is iconic, sure. But we've seen numerous examples of new attractions being neutered by trying to make them fit into existing buildings - SkyVoyager - I believe planned for 4 modules, the six modules is 'too full' for the screen size Storm Coaster - I believe during construction they had big issues with the relatively high water table adding much to the cost Justice League - To fit into the existing BA:TR footprint, we got the 'poor cousin' of the Justice League attractions Scooby and JDS are examples of reusing existing space without compromise, although I dislike the JDS use. In short, If they came up with an attraction well suited to the castle space without compromising the experience, sure. But if we're keeping it because "OMG it's so iconic!!!" isn't a good enough reason. Sea World's biggest issue with new attractions is finding the space, and the castle takes up an enormous amount of prime real estate leading to choke points and traffic management nightmares through the mid-station area of the park. There is a massive amount of space that could be freed up if this was levelled. The castle and flume area occupies about half a hectare \ 1.3 acres of land.

well that does look much safer. Totally impractical for track inspection - but what else can you do? https://youtu.be/YjBIG7JXYBk

That's a set of steps just to the right of the track. How else do you think they'd evac the train if the lift stalled? It's obvious the components he's inspecting are inside the cable lift channel and aren't able to be inspected from the steps, which is why he's doing it the way he is. You can't put a walkway inside of the track... (Here's Green Lantern for comparison...) What does this even mean? the entire area has no fall from height risk. The infill panels ensure that. Sure, they can trip and tumble down the stairs and it won't be a pleasant ride to the bottom but it won't kill them. I'm all for making things safe, but elimination is not the only solution to risk management. I agree the US and other jurisdictions don't take it as seriously as we do, but sometimes we do stupid things in the name of safety - like bondage suits on shockwave, perspex roof frames on a log ride...

isn't that just because Main Event was divested from the group? it sounds like the end of financial year would be a good time to effect the change, no?

The park tends to get slammed for the Thanksgiving period at the end of November, so most of the month is weirdly quiet, but most things are open in preparation for the holiday.