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Here's the website if anyone wants to take a look at the rest of their work - https://www.makmax.com.au/project/sea-world-leviathan/

Why May 2023 specifically? As others have said, even those with business degrees or profitable businesses aren't inherently great business people. Disney is posting great profits, but a lot of people think Bob Chapek is a sub-par CEO. Putting aside whether or not this particular business owner is a great operator or not, the macroeconomics of a Disneyland in Adelaide simply don't add up. Maybe in Sydney or Brisbane, but serious state government assistance would be required.

Instead of pointlessly speculating (and it is at that point) just give the park a buzz if you want to know.

Literally Cyclone for the longest time. Still might be the case, not sure what the case is with the Vekoma train.

The biggest complaint from Fright Nights 2019 was that unless you used Fast Track or other up-sells to skip the queues you'd likely not get to all the mazes in one night. If the premise behind the price increase is to lower demand to meet supply and in doing so ensure that most people get to have an enjoyable night then i'm all for it - guess we'll see.

Huh - that's strange, why do you reckon that is @Gazza?

I'll happily eat my words on this one - this is some bizarre stuff we're seeing. 🤪

Don't shift the goal posts. The point was demonstrating that basing any assumptions on analysis of technology that's more than twelve months old isn't going to give you reliable results, especially if you're using it to correlate wild assumptions. Appreciate you doing the math.

To be fair you’re loading in a lot of assumptions to reach that conclusion, including an assumption that somehow Red Force tried and failed to beat Dragster (the reality is Port Aventura wanted to have Europe’s tallest and fastest coaster, and Intamin designed a solution that achieved those specs). Comparing modern LIMs to Tower of Terror’s LSMs, they use roughly a third the electrical input for twice the kinetic force output. That’s not bad for two decades of innovation, and I’m sure it’s continued to mature over time too.

Keep in mind that most major OEMs often get components from the same suppliers and not 100% of every ride is built from scratch from that OEM. With that in mind, launch tech has come a long way since Tower of Terror (even between the first Blue Fire and our one), and there’s been notable gains in regards to efficiency from multiple fronts. Therefore it wouldn’t surprise me at this point if the hardware has matured enough to do a 1:1 replacement of the hydraulic launch without too much additional work needed. Could be wrong though, could be sick to see a multi-launch dragster with a reverse spike.

Interesting to sea Disney starting to test the waters in Australia.

In the times I've seen Cyclone/Hot Wheels/Gold Coaster/the artist formerly known as Big Dipper valley pre side-winder element, it's usually a five to ten day turn-around to get the train off the track and reset. Keep in mind a few things: Cyclone ft. all the other names valleys at a similarly tricky spot which is also higher (not that the height difference matters, both spots are reasonably close to the ground). There's two trains, so all they need to do is get the train off to get the ride running again. I highly doubt it take six days to source a crane. Mack Rides don't do pull throughs, so taking the train off is the only choice. It doesn't take six days for Mack to return calls, nor is it an unknown unknown where both Mack or Movie World have no insights on next steps. To me it appears as though someone's dragging their feet on rectifying this.

In a way it shows how incompetent our local journalists have become - they all drove past a valleyed roller-coaster that was in plain sight to cover a news story about another valleyed roller-coaster that they had no chance of seeing. Even the language I saw being used was clearly heightened to get clicks - “rescue”, “trapped”, “stuck,” “movie world blames guest” - like give me a god damn break.

Does it though?

Looks like it was guest related. https://www.facebook.com/movieworldgoldcoast/photos/a.452895337181/10159429107652182/ Side tangent - why say high zone? Do many people who aren't niche enthusiasts or staff know what that is? It's up there with precinct for me when it comes to words normal everyday guests shouldn't hear.

What was the skateboard ride?

Oof, if only.

Correct. Re-read what I said in full - that ultimately infers enough about organisational intention since it was the same stakeholders keeping both projects running. Just to note - so far in this thread, we've acknowledged that CEO's do spin (and for good reason) only to then take everything a CEO says as gospel in a clearly paid-for op-ed after said company reported lower than expected results. Bit of whiplash digesting that one. If we're at the point where we presume that everything said in the news is true then I'm not sure what kind of objective conversation there is to actually have. We do. I also remember the ride testing a week or so later. There's no need to when you've been posting thoughts online that have been on the money for over a decade. No one's forcing you to agree with me, I'll just have that giggle you mention instead and be on my way. 🍻

Not much of a Future Lab if the project was dependent on a key stakeholder and that stakeholder left. And if the dissolution of Corroboree is anything to go you could safely assume Dreamworld wasn't planning on going down the Future Lab route without that key stakeholder. Because drinking the kool-aid rots your teeth.

Going to make a call to close this thread. Good on the bloke for turning a negative into a positive. 🍻

Besides the fact that the Justice League make an appearance and you shoot a gun they're pretty different. 🤔

What are the other IP's you'd use beyond anything ABC Kids, LEGO, Disney, Universal or Warner Bros.?

Probably? I mentioned the reason why already. Not sure I see organisational strategy/culture/sustainability the same way as you but agree to disagree. Future Lab was both announced and suspended pre-COVID-19 during John Osborne's tenure. The short term is you make the announcement, and kick the can down the road 2-3 years when the park is revenue positive and the next leadership can figure out a more holistic approach to the brand's strategy and culture around sustainability. They most definitely have the cash now. So what's the problem? Is the argument that they shouldn't build it because research and conservation don't matter? Should their focus be solely on generating revenue from their animal exhibits with no consideration for sustainability? This is pretty ironic because you're dead on the money, brand strategy is nuanced and complex. The issue for Dreamworld is that they keep falling into situations where they're simply not asking "how will this be perceived" at a time when their brand is still in the toilet and they're trying to gain value so that they can maximise the amount from the inevitable sale. Just a side-note - I think the issue in this thread is that there are actually quite a few different arguments going on here. For clarity from my end - I love Dreamworld, and I'm passionate about it (and by that extension, critical) because that's how things get improved over time. I don't personally have a problem with the grant re-allocation, it was arguably not necessary in the grand scheme of things but that's a whole other thing. Leadership did things to keep the business afloat and I get that. I continue to believe that the crux of the issue for many folks that think it was a bad call (and ultimately it was) was the lack of consideration or planning for any downstream impacts. And the net result of that lack of consideration has landed them in the news three times, decimated their inbound marketing for a while and further tarnished the brand. This is a brand that was previously perceived extremely positively regarding its contributions toward conservation. As a result, no matter how positive or well-positioned a DWF conversation effort is, it'll be tainted by this situation, and the flow on from that is more than likely that people will donate less. Exactly this.

Easy - build Future Labs.

Here's some more insight about the ad here. From Koala: