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Spoken like a modern day Walt Disney. Stuff it I'll play: Really, I don't think there's any merit to the idea of bringing back rides like Eureka, Vortex, Skylink, or even the 'magical bush feel' (whatever that means). To me that sounds like an expensive way of making Dreamworld like it used to be, but not a great way to take the park into the future. The park should not have a 5 year plan to make it the same as it was in the past. Personally I think what Dreamworld lacks more than anything else is a coherent vision for the what the park should be (I've made the same complaint about SW too) and it’s this I think they should address. If I were in a position of authority of Dreamworld, I’d be looking at what they have and what needs to be replaced/removed. While my opinions will differ from others, my take on the park are as follows: Redefine the ‘lands’ the park. Areas like AWE, Tiger Island and Ocean Parade need little or no work. Seriously, those corners of the park are pretty much fine, and changes there need only be cosmetic, and there are other areas of the park which need a bit of redefining first. Gold-rush is the first area I’d start. I think the land needs a bit of re-defining. I’m not talking about anything overly drastic, just setting in stone what the story for the area is, and for the land to also extend down to Rocky Hollow and Giant Drop. Once it’s been properly established, use the Mountain facade as the station to a new full circut adult coaster which travels around the entire land. I don’t think Motocoaster should have a long term future at the park, and I’d have no problems demolishing it and Wiggles World and everything else in the area to make way for a land with a unified theme along the river. Off the top of my head, a township that sits on the edge of a haunted forest could work a treat. Rides could be a family coaster on the Island going through the trees, a haunted house dark ride taking some of Motocoaster’s footprint, and a new indoor thrill ride with a dark theme. Add to that new facilities, and a new streamlined F&B outlet (replacing the 2 that currently sit right next to each other) with an upstairs bar/function venue and hardware to do a nighttime show on the river during Scream-world or future Halloween events and room left over for a future ride. What to do with Blue Lagoon is harder to decide, but I think most people could agree that a new themed land anchored by at least one swiss designed coaster would be a good brief for the future design team.

Hi all, I would love to hear everyone's thoughts on what Dreamworld needs to do to combat WVTP's current dominance. I know a few people are disappointed with the current direction so am keen to hear your thoughts. Specifically, let's look at at least a 5 year plan to change Dreamworld and put it back at number one. I'll post my thoughts soon. Nate

I say we when I talk about my employer. Or the Broncos, yet I'm not a player...

One last thing, the old days no longer matter. So I only am talking about the Wii. Actually the game division of Sony is the only part of the company that is making a profit right now. They have just recently made it a primary focus of the company because of it.

For starters, I still don't get people who speak English, don't understand how abbreviations work. You take the first letter of each word eg.... ABC - Australian Broadcasting Comission SW - Sea World ATM - Automatic Teller Machine LOL - Laughing out Loud WA - Western Australia PG - Parental Guidance Etc etc So its DW for Dream World. You don't abbreviate by doing DM, where you have taken the first and last letters of Dream, and forgotten 'world' all together. It's just as bad as the people who call Movie World MV... FFFFFUUUUUUUUUU!!!!! Imagine if we took your method , it would be stupid for everything: ANC - Australian Broadcasting Comission SA - Sea World ACR- Automatic Teller Machine LGL - Laughing out Loud WN - Western Australia PL - Parental Guidance So, When DW builds this, DW pays the full cost of construction, plus a licencing fee to Dreamworks. Dreamworks are the ones who created the characters and own the IP. The characters are popular with Children, so it's Dreamworld who gets the benefit from using them to attract families to the park. It's not the same as as a sponsorship deal where the 3rd party approaches the park and slaps their name on something (Eg remember it was called the Kodak Skylink Chairlift) and gives the park money for doing so.

Somehow I don't think Dreamworks came cheap.

Actually the amount of sales in this means jack. The wii has been losing money for years as almost everyone (who wants one) has already got one. In terms of money earn't the Wii has done by far the worst. If they had learnt from their mistakes what is up with the Wii U. Many sources are saying that it has less power then the current gen consoles and Developers saying it has slightly more power, but Sony and Microsoft are about to go to the next gen and then the Wii U will once again be in the past, plus its controller is weird. In terms of sales the PS3 and Xbox 360 have sold around the same amount consoles. Xbox slightly more with the PS3 catching up, but due to the pricing difference the PS3 has made a lot more money then the Xbox. So the order of sales is Wii, Xbox 360, PS3 but when it comes to money that the companies have earn't are PS3, Xbox 360, Wii. The only reason why the Wii sold more was because of the low price and target market (casual gamers). Although this brought people in quickly it has failed for them in the long term due to lack of sales in the latter part of its life. Sales on the portable systems also can not speak for the companies as each have a different target market causing the difference sales. The DS is marketed at kids while the PSP/Vita is marketed at gamers and older kids/young adults. Anything marketed at kids will always sell more due to kids always wanting what they see (not the best way to explain but you know what I mean). The PSP and Vita suffer because the target market is for elder gamers. The problem is that most elder gamers don't want to play on a portable device. Also developers are not making games for the devices so it suffers from a lack of games.

Agreed totally. Trying to revive what's dead, gone or otherwise isn't going to help the park succeed in the future, what I think will hit the nail on the head is revising the park's rich history in its core values that made the park the success that it is now. A sense of pride of being "Australia's Disneyland." And to me that's always said "be like the best (Disney, Universal & Busch) and be innovative enough (which is what Aussies do best) to make it work to our budget." And I think that's Movie World's mantra in a nutshell currently, I get a deep sense of pride in the park's Main Street, its employees and even the uniforms - it just all adds up. I think for me the park ultimately should have five zones - Dreamworks, Main Street, Gold Rush County, Rivertown and Ocean Parade. Everything should ultimately be adapted to these zones like djrappa suggested to really make the spaces in the park more immersive. And I think the park would benefit greatly from having a much more dispersed crowd across the park instead of gating people into Ocean Parade so that they can make a few bucks after hours by keeping the rides close together for private functions.

Seriously, are YOU?

Well done - you've replied to a thread that is more than 5 years old, to members who aren't even active anymore, to say the same thing you said in another thread almost the same day. Nice bump! #thumbsup

Okay, this is something that has been bugging me on the forums, people bagging out VRTP closing Batman with no replacement. What do you mean by no replacement? The park closed it back in November and by Spring their will be a new ride in their, thats a turn around of less than a year. I know a replacement will eventually come to BT and LT, but they have been closed down longer with no replacement. I don't know the reason for their closure and I'm not going to speculate why they closed down so long before their replacement and left SBNO; and who know what Ardent are doing with Eureka. But please don't bring Batman into, I really don't think that ride applies. I agree with Joz, the park does need to find itself a new direction; I still mind it keeping the Australian theme, although Madagascar and Tiger Island don't fit. I would start with the entrance and that includes both inside and outside the the ticket gates, it would only be cosmetic but I think thats where you need to start as that what sets you up before you've even entered and gotten on a ride. Yes I would return the Fountain and make it something really spectacular, maybe even put something like the Universal sign outside their parks in the fountain but with DW obviously. Next, before I even add new rides I would revisit the lands that are fine and the rides and give them a refresh, much like Disney did to DCA, return theming to rides that left it, mining uniforms back on GD, water back in Wipeout, if feasible, work out some theme with Cyclone and add a second train, those sorts of things. On the topic of uniforms, I know people may not like this, and know QLD summers can be horrible, but I'd really like to see new uniforms for the park, especially ride operators, other than blacks shorts and a polo top; although something like beach type, lifesaver uniforms would work well in Ocean Parade. Mick Doohan, I think is okay as a family ride and thats what they need to market it as, get rid of it from the Big 7 list and give it a massive makeover, although if money was limitless, I would demolish, find another location in the park and build another family roller coaster. Wiggles, personally I couldn't care less if they were there or not, but I still would like to see a second kiddies area, maybe bring back the Kenny the Koala area, put it out near AWE. Gold Rush, with Eureka, something like Gazza once drew up, I just thought that was phenomenal. Keeping on going with the area around the back develop Blue lagoon as either part of Eureka, which I would make Rocky Hollow part of the Gold Rush area as well. Get rid of the old skyway poles and then as we move out that back some new, big exciting coaster added to the park. I'd also like to see another water ride, because in summer, forget about cooling off on their current 2 water rides, the lines are the longest in the park and a water ride that is a real people eater, they've got rapids, log ride, maybe one with a large drop on it to give it a real thrill, if by some magical way it was possible I would love to bring DW's rapid ride into the 21st century by extending it and making it bigger with a drop on it. I would also expand WWW to it full size and then add a hotel and entertainment precinct to DW attaching to the shopping centre, when it eventually gets built , and have something like a city walk at Universal, that way making it a place that when the day finishes at the park you still money with Ardent. You would also have a jump on VR, as they will eventually also do the same with MW, WnW and Outback. I would also extend both DW and WWW trading hours in summer, create a world class parade for the park running during the day and again at night, and have huge show to end the night like the Disney and Universal parks do maybe around the Rivertown area. I would also love to something like a tram/trolley or the like making it way from the entrance plaza to other areas of the park like Ocean Parade. Sigh, if only I was Gina Rinehart and money was no object!!

Dump MDMC. Build a small woodie. Dump MDMC. Tell people that Redline has something to do with the GC 500. Dump MDMC. Give the aminals some more popularity, as opposed to just the tigers. Dump MDMC. Return the fountains to normal. Dump MDMC. Actually give Shockwave some themeing and a story. Dump MDMC. Return Vortex Dump MDMC. Bring back characters. Dump MDMC. Utilize the island for something magical or some shit. Dump MDMC. And just make the place feel like a magical bush-style park again. Dump MDMC. and did i also mention that they should Dump MDMC?