DaptoFunlandGuy

Again Gazza, you have another brilliant drawing here. it looks awesome. My only question is about the Wave pool and the mountain - the wave pool is covered on 3 sides by the mountain facade - this minimises the wind (which is a good thing) but it reduces the amount of sun the pool gets, which would make it very cold, mostly in shadows etc... LOL. problem is he'd eject anyone he thought was a turd, but anyone causing serious havoc, he'd probably join in... lol While im sincerely touched, I could never stoop to the levels of Michael Croaker and company. Croaker was a nice bloke but his entire cast were plastic. besides, I never saw much in the way of entertainment at WnW... I think Rappa would have something to say about that... Not that I'm doubting Flea here at all... but heck.. i'd want in on this one too!

Disneyland opened in 1955... how old would this guy be now? I would assume he'd have been at least in his late 20's, which would put him at least 75 this year. If you're saying what I think you're saying, can he really have that much of an impact on WBMW at his age?

im not saying the brakes were needed, but i have heard of a model in the states that has trim brakes in that particular section. don't ask me....

yes but Dan, did this result in the ride getting stuck on the lift hill or the boomerang? I was present one day when an operator actually demonstrated the cats eyes on each coaster car, the "magic eye" that read those cats eyes, and exactly how far the train got if one of those bars was down.... precisely nowhere. the ride stopped within a metre of the eye being read... (although, this was a modification installed after the ride was itself constructed at the park, to be a failsafe against operator error, so there could be incidents prior to the installation of the "eye" that I am not aware of.) As far as I know, Demon has, at least once, stalled mid-boomerang, with guests on board. I am aware that she got stuck there at times with no guests, that she got stuck in the gully below lift 2, that she got stuck ON lift 2 and even on lift 1. I know it sheared its cable more than once, and that one time when it did, the train came down lift 1, with the catchwagon still attached, ran through the station, so the electronics and ballast package which hung below the tracks reamed the station sideways and ripped out one or more brake elements in the station itself, not to mention throwing a wheel or two. It is highly possible that I do not know of every single breakdown event that ever happened on Demon. It is also highly possible that other people on these forums do not know of every possible breakdown either. Bus is a great authority on the operations at wonderland. but it doesnt mean he is always correct. I believe the original statement about demon is correct. it has charlied in the middle of the boomerang element.

i can see some similarities there Gazza, i just still think its a bad practise for any park to be naming things like flush frenzy. a couple of the rides you listed dont fit the criteria because they are more than two words, and i feel inclined to disqualify Ketchakiddee and humunga, because thats a lot of syllables. But as you had said you were scraping the bottom of the barrel, and honestly, if they (the names) worked in a theme park, you should be applying to Disney right now... Its easy to come up with names for rides based on a single drawing, build a full scale ride, and then come up with a name for it that captures its best features and is also interestingintriguing enough to make the general public want to visit your park just to ride it. Imagine if Wild West falls was originally called "flume ride" or if Scooby Doo Spooky Coaster was originally called "Wild Mouse" - how many people would flcok to the park to ride it? I can't see myself booking a trip to WnW to ride "flushing frenzy". sounds like a case of Starbuck's slipping a laxative into every coffee they make... But anyway gazza, regardless of the names of the slides, its a good design. keep it up. (and maybe see if you can get a woolworths discount coupon to fill up the tank on that barrel of yours...)

I always wondered why our boomerang model didnt have certain modifications other models do have. for example - trim or emergency brakes in the boomerang element itself? And if it was such an issue with the train stalling in the lower elements of the track, eg: bottom of lift hill 2, why dont the units come fitted with a winch style device that can pull the train back to its staging point?

Ok, i was talking in the current ride base in australia, and counting bush beast only because it still stands. i meant a two-word name alliteration or rhyme. and it was Boo Boo's Balloon RACE SpeedSlide is one i'll give, but this is just a description of what it does, its a SLIDE that has a very high SPEED. its nothing near "Flush Frenzy" again, these are all multi worded ride names. Road Runner is a character you can't do much about, that came from WB. and its a ROLLER COASTER... Reptar is a three word alliteration that shows a bit more thought, and its not "Terror Tower" but "Tower OF Terror" which shows a bit more thought, and is hardly as obviously lame as say... Nippers Slippers? I was talking about two worded titles that have alliteration or rhyming for no other reason than to be alliterated, or rhymed. all of the examples you guys came up with had a purpose, a design, and had a bit more thought put into it. Not only that, but the rides that came close to truly fitting my specification were mostly kiddie rides Im not hacking on Gazza's Ideas, I love these little things he does. If we've learnt nothing on these forums, we HAVE learnt that the parks do pay a little attention to what we're saying - the most recent example i can think of is Stephen Gregg's attention to the queue and capacity issues. While it could be argued that its just their own perception of the general public, why didnt they do something about it earlier? they only acted after we spent three months whinging about their capacity. coincidence is possible, but I'm farily confident management in all 4 parks on the gold coast do pay some attention to this site. So maybe, although im sure they've had designers working on the Sunshine Coast version of the park, but maybe they've got stuck on an idea or two - for instance, the "transport river" idea, if it could be made to work, is an ingenious method of getting people around the park. nobody likes to run around in bare feet on hot concrete.. i've experienced that myself at WnW. this transport river would tour past every major attraction in the park with an opportunity to get off anywhere you please... maybe Warner Village might note this and consider implementing it into their design. they have the technology already from calypso beach.. all they need to do is expand on it.

regardless of whether people were on it or not, the event still occurred...

*waits for everyone to log on and talk about the 10.30 screening which just finished.

from what i have gathered in the past, Paul prefers the thrill rides. this is why dreamworld and luna parks and wonderland had its appeal to him. majority of the rides in those parks are whirl till you hurl kind of rides, whereas movie world really only has one ride like that - Lethal Weapon

Gaz, I love that you take the time to do this sort of thing, and I LOVE the idea of your transport river system.. but... it goes right through where the wave generators are. this river can't go up a hill or down a gully... water tends to respond a bit strong to gravity... same point for the little loop you did near the entrance, where it circles around itself. if they are joined, the current will become erratic, and if they do go over and under each other, the water won't work. I get the feeling this is meant to be a bit like calypso beach... while good in theory what you have here can't work. On another note, why does everyone who comes up with theoretical ride names have to resort to either Rhyming or Alliteration? (spelt?). Everything has a two word name, and the second word either rhymes with the first, or has the same first letter... excepting gloomy caves.. and maybe one or two others. BE ORIGINAL! how many rides out there (ok, except BUSH BEAST) have an alliteration for a name? or RHYME? im going to think for exactly two minutes on the major parks I know.... NOTHING... NADA. Only one i came up with was Bush Beast..

Bush Beast Demon Cyclone Tower Of Terror Eureka Mine Train Runaway Reptar Scooby Doo Spooky Coaster Lethal Weapon Corkscrew Road Runner Rollercoaster Crazy Mouse

a git. =-)

Hey Micka, glad you helped me out with my puter problem... i found some stuff on there i completely forgot about - the ENTIRE wonderland promotional photos set.... As soon as I get around to getting my puter back up and running, ill get it sent over to you. its a zip, but its full of TIFF files, so its HUGE

thanks for keeping us updated on your travels scott. its good to hear about all the other parks out there... sorry to hear you guys are ill.... but enjoy it all while you're there!

Knott's would be in my top three parks, but Montezooma is one of my favourite rides... it was the first launched coaster I ever rode on... boy were we NOT expecting it to go forwards first... we'd come from riding the demon at wonderland, and expected it to lift us back and then drop us.... lol. it was a shock believe me... As far as boomerang... its identical to wonderland's demon... Boomerang was closed when we went there too, and we were surprised to see a clone of demon, because we weren't aware that the boomerang design was mass produced at the time...

Allow me to be the first to say Welcome, Carolinebee. Despite evidence to the contrary on some of the threads in previous days, we're a great little community here, and its the best place for information on everything Australian Theme Park! Again, Welcome... its great to have another member who has international park experience! Look forward to hearing more about your travels... Cheers, Alex.

bear in mind most annual passes to theme parks in australia have always been around the cost of between 2 and 3 individual visits... and that includes wonderland as well. Warner Village may have upped their pricing on their annual pass to WBMW, but compare the CURRENT price to that of the other parks, and also compare it to the daily price of each park. its fair, although the increase was a big one all at once. Also bear in mind the amount of money Warner Village is spending in the next 12-18 months. attendance is going to go up a lot, and you can bet your bippy that the individual ticket prices will bump slightly upwards as well. When I play RCT, I up my gate prices to help finance a new attraction that I wish to build. I open the attraction, and a month or so later (in RCT time) i lower the price, or continue to build more. With the announcements of so many millions being poured into the parks, I would feel the price, while considerably higher than it was recently, is justifiable. Personally I'd like to see them come out with a 3 park annual pass... but while we're talking, and since i'm bored.. heres the comparison on screen - (I had to do lines because R-C forums remove multiple spacings..) __________One Day Ticket_____Annual Pass______# visits equal annual $ WBMW______$60_______________$150______________2.5 SW_________$60_______________$150______________2.5 WnW_______$38_______________$133_______________3.5 DW_________$60_______________$165______________2.75 the last number indicates the number of visits you would need to make at the park paying ordinary admission to equate the cost of an annual pass. we have all had the discussion before of dreamworld having so many more rides than the other parks, but against that statement, each park has its own target focus. so just because you prefer thrills rides and are an adrenaline junkie, it doesnt justify one park charging so much, while the other similar priced ticket is a rip-off. people pay for the shows, atmosphere and environment at WBMW they pay for the rides at DW the slides at WnW and the animals and shows at SW. Putting them all on a level demographic and playing field, Wet N Wild is the most expensive, requiring 3.5 visits to the park before an annual pass is justified. Dreamworld is the next expensive, requiring 2.75 visits Sea World and Movie world only require 2.5 visits. Even at this price, I feel that movie world and sea world would probably be the passes I would buy, but given they are two separate parks, it would come down to either DW or MW. I still think DW is more of a rip than any other.

It looks almost identical to the one i saw, including the six flags logo... only thing is, on this show, the alternating carriages were blue, not red... this one looks like the entire train is red... Edit: I've just attached some pics from the show... and it could quite possibly be the coaster you're talking about flea, but the blue cars dont fit with what RCDB has...

Now before you all go getting huffed about a new coaster coming to the Six.. this is actually a defunct derelict coaster. I want to try and figure out where it comes from. There was a TV show on last night on the Discovery Channel called Junkyard Wars. The show stars both American and British people, but i'm pretty sure its based in America. Basic description of the show, they're given a Junkyard and a task, and they have to build something to do the task from crap in a junkheap. This episode last night, the guys needed to build a boat. the teams couldn't really find anything to suit, but one of the teams, (the blue team) came across a worn and weathered old roller coaster body. This is what I want to find out - what the coaster train used to be on - what ride is it from? Heres the info I have - The front of the train was red, with a six flags logo on its nose. It has blue and white pin striping, with white stars running down the blue stripe. The train itself looked like your typical steel looper - it would have looked like it belonged on either demon or corkscrew, or cyclone even. Its second car was painted blue, with a red stripe with white stars etc etc... all the way down the train, redblueredblue.. standard ratchet OTSR's, although the seat padding and OTSR's themselves were missing, as was the undercarriage... just a plain old stock train fibreglass shell... Can anyone identify it?

Hey Guys, Just going through some old posters and stuff here, i've always beleived wonderland opened on december 3rd, 1985. When Paul released his latest video, I thought it was wrong, because it said December 7th. I have just reviewed the Audition Call Poster from July 1985, which shows the parks entire operating calendar from August 1985 (auditions) to October 1985 (dry run and audition days) and its operation days are listed thus: November 1985 - 2,9,16,17,23,24,30 December 1985 - 1,5,7,8, and then the 14th december through to February 1st, when it then went back into weekend only operation until the may 1986 holidays, where it operated from the 2nd of may to the 18th of may, before closing for the off season. Does anyone have any further information on this, because as it stands, it seems the park's first operation day was November 2nd, not December 7th or 3rd...?

Good stuff paul. very well put together, although its a shame you had to use so many still shots. I knew the wonderland song was coming at the end of it but it still made me a little nostalgic. it has been worth the wait and I dont think that the 8mB version is anything to sneer at. the quality isnt crystal but its good enough. Anyways mate, good stuff, well done, and many thanks for your time and effort.

Of course... the ONLY little guy in Australian Politics... Little Johnny Howard... although I think Michael Caine's comments about him being a tripod are a little overzealous...

Neb, I believe Joz had a fullstop in between those two sentences. one was a statement, the other was a question. I think it would be a bit crazy for WBMW to shut down their biggest attraction in order to build a bigger one. it would be like cutting off your ear so you could wear headphones.... I would say the question about lethal would probably be to point out, that AFTER lethal has completed its latest rehabmaintenance, then it could be all maintenance hands on deck to assist in the construction of the new ride, as it would be ridiculous to divide your workforce in half, one repairing, the other constructing... best to have all hands on deck for both jobs.

no paul that height is bang on target. remember that in goldrush, hawk was surrounded by a lot of other things, that dwarfed it, including trees, as well as buildings and structures nearby which minimised the apparent height. hawk's current location is a vacant lot with very little other than other tall towers, which, in that pic, doesnt really show..