AllegroCrab

The magnitude of forces will be exactly the same, just the direction may change. The vertical positive/negative would be exactly the same as if you were sitting forwards. The lateral forces will switch sides because your left becomes the train's right, and the forwards/backwards forces will switch direction because your forwards is the train's backwards.

They could just be smart and not put their hands up at that part until they've done pull throughs.

Steel Vengeance looks insane. It seems to go on forever. I guess that's what happens when you use all of the energy you get from a 200ft drop instead of going into the brakes at 70km/h.

I was thinking back row. Sustained airtime a lot of the way down a twisted 200ft drop. Absolutely insane.

I don't want to get my hopes up too much, but that looks like one of the best drops in the world.

The supports there right now might look ugly, but once the entire thing is built, everyone will be looking at the top of the drop and that joker face, not the mess of supports halfway down.

Well there's no NDT involved in the inspection process. Quite shocked at the amount of people (here and elsewhere) who are labeling this an unpreventable incident. If this sort of failure was unpreventable we'd be seeing planes falling out of the sky due to fatigue failures all the time, however we don't, because NDT methods are implemented as standard in that industry to detect the signs of fatigue way before a failure like this will ever happen. Just because we're not experts doesn't mean we're inherently wrong. You don't need to be an engineer to understand a lot of this stuff. Anyone who's ever played around with a paperclip knows if you bend the metal back and forward enough times it'll snap. NDT is the way of detecting the signs of fatigue that are not visible. If fatigue ends up being the main factor (it seems very, very likely at this point) then it'd be madness for NDT not to be introduced as standard for inspections from the results of investigations into this incident.

The difference here is that people are trying to find the actual cause of this incident. I had no qualms with media being critical of the industry after the TRRR incident, these things simply should not happen. My only gripe was when journalists and news outlets had no interest in reporting relevant facts or trying to get to the bottom of the situation, who were instead just fanning the flames, bringing up every unrelated past incident at any theme park to get clicks on their news story. That's not what's happening here, people are genuinely trying to get the facts out of this situation. Why should we be trying to defend the industry when someone went on a ride to enjoy themselves, but didn't return home that night? There is no defence for that. We have to be critical here, don't just defend it blindly because you love the industry, if anything you should be more critical if you love the industry.

Surprised to hear that some are disappointed with this. A swing like this isn't a spin and spew, they are floater airtime machines. The Claw is the best flat ride I've ever ridden.

The single rider queue for Shambhala saw me ride it about 40 times in one weekend.

Have you ever done a ride with your eyes shut? It's pretty terrifying.

I wouldn't be surprised if it's a soft opening in September. Likely they deliberately overstated the opening by pushing it to October just so people like you can show up in October and not be disappointed.

Being the tallest coaster doesn't count if you only use half the track.

I think I've decided that if it's an upcharge (which it should be) I'll ride it backwards as a one-off, then ride it forwards every other time.

I'm expecting MW's operations to be slow enough anyway that it makes no difference. I know how illogical my argument against the back row is, it's an argument of feelings not thoughts.

@xRazzBerryx The hill will definitely be higher than the loop, but I'm guessing it won't be much higher if they're going for real ejector air. The air at the top of the loop will probably have to be more floater. If I have to put a number to it, if the loop is 40m tall then then maybe the hill will be about 45. S U S T A I N E D E J E C T O R

Maybe it's just my reddit elitism, but why are we downvoting someone just because we don't agree with them? Save it for when people post incoherent garbage, not well spoken opinion. I don't agree with getting rid of the refill station, but it's a good point that soft drink is actually pretty bad for your health, it's a valid concern. I'm not really in the know as I usually only buy soft drink at parks, but what alternatives do MW offer (besides water).

I agree with mostly everything, but the things you mention for all those other rides are not gimmicks, they're fundamental parts of the ride. Making an entire ride and then turning one row of seats backwards is a gimmick. It's probably just the coaster nerd inside of me who's resistant to change and having a pointless whinge, but it really feels wrong having a coaster that looks so brilliant by itself trying so hard to make itself look better. Bitch you already perfect <3

I'm about done with this forum. Is this a place where theme park enthusiasts meet or.... ?

I've always thought those 'cardboard' cutout themes are just a bit lame, I mean, the only place you see it is at six flags. If the queue and station are well themed there'll be little reason to have much more. If it's a choice between having no theme at all past the station or having the half assed cutout theming, I'd take no theme. The difference between the quality theming at the station and the filler theming throughout the layout would be jarring. The Joker's face at the top should look really cool when lit up at night. Especially alongside the Green Lantern display. The Movie World skyline is going to be incredible. @Ryande16 on your screenshot: The GP really don't know how good this is going to be haha. @Rollercoaster_Lover Better than Fury 325? I'm not sure that's likely, but you're right, most enthusiasts overseas I've talked to look at this coaster as the best new coaster this year. If we thought Superman Escape was a World Class implementation in 2005, well we've got another thing coming here.

There's only two seats, no one's being forced to ride backwards. The people who actually end up riding backwards will know what they're in for and they'll be there willingly.

DC Rivals Hypercoaster is a terrible name. Any backwards seat on a coaster of this scale is a gimmick, whether it's one row or an entire train, but I'll give it a go, it'll be properly intense. I like the look of the layout towards the end, lots of hills after one another.

10/10 thread.

Grrr I hate this argument. The theme itself is from the past, so it doesn't matter one bit that the ride is somewhat dated. It's supposed to be a creepy old hotel from 1939. The original ride system was tailor made for the theme and story, and it is probably the best ride/experience combination I've ever ridden. The most recent installation of the ride was in 2007, that's only 10 years ago, where Disney thought the ride experience was still of a high enough quality to be put in as a brand new attraction at one of their parks. The Twilight Zone is still a well known name amongst 'the youth of today' because of the rides at Disney parks. They're attractions that carry themselves, where the ride experience matches the theme perfectly. A good ride doesn't have to have a successful movie series behind it to get people through the gates to ride it. And ride themes that are relying on a franchise to get people through the gates will not last. This has to have been Disney's worst idea ever.

Hopefully a few more airtime moments back to back just before that. There's something awesome about seeing the supports for such a massive coaster as this emerging over the tops of such unmistakably Australian flora.