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Hopefully it will, but SWs waterpark is just small, i wouldnt really call it crappy because there is a difference. It may have only 2 towers, but remember the largest tower used to have 6 slides coming off it, and the other one only has 2, but as you know they can easily have more. Maybe that because they are the newest, so a new tower needs to be built because existing ones in these parks wont fit any more or dont have enough ground space for a new ride coming off. Plus look at this pic, you can clearly see new generation rides like bowls sharing a tower with high speed tube slides, raft slides etc... But when you think about it, before extreme H20 zone WnW had only 4 towers (Super 8, Speedcoaster & Twister, Mammoth Falls, and essentialy white water mountain (since it used to be a timber platform before they added the mountain)) so DW would be having one less, but they could always combine more into one. Plus one thing everyone is forgetting is expansions, they might be deliberately opening DWWP small so they can trade off the novelty of a small park in the first year or so, but then put in a few new rides in the years following to gain extra visitors from that.

Yeah, ill agree on the roughness, it wasnt too bad the only part where it was a problem was the helix. As for the pipes blowing out air, in summer they have misters in front of them to keep it cooler. But still comparing the ride to some of the others here you can see how it is pretty poor. Like from the entrance you can see how the theming people had no clue, i mean, sitcking the back panel of a van on a wall: is that supposed to make us think it is parked in there? bits of random stuff put on the walls, as supposed "spare parts" (we all know it was just a whipper snipper), a turbine with streamers: what is this, an air con salesroom? they could at least turn it on. As you move through there is a bouncy floor (Oh i get it, cyclones<->bouncy floors), and then you get to the station doors where you are subjected to those flashing lights while you wait. On the way out things get no better, its an endless maze of catwalks etc with some nice views of DWs back of house area and plenty of weedy gravel. And finally after passing an ill maintained garden bed you wind up in a bogan shop, specialising in the latest palyboy and bundaberg rum products.

Nah, its the one to the right of the batman entrance on that "wall" (to the left of the fountain of fame when viewed from the entrance), i think its used for something because when i was there a lot of japanese tourists were lined up, isnt it the waiting area for paradise country or something?

LOL, i dont mean to rain on anyones parade here, but this probably the most i have ever seen a post go off topic, it started out as suggestions for improvements to existing rides, but somehow became a debate about woodies.

Cyclone - A warrant for demolition TOT- Decent theming Thunder River - Loads more water fountains, coin op water guns, water wheels, tipping mining buckets, all with a mining theme. SDSC - This ride is pretty much on the spot, but it would be cool if they added a few speakers with voice overs to push the story along (Like the whole ghost train section at the start looks nice, but has no real story) WWF - Replace the spark effect that was removed after the fire, and for the other parts of the ride i think some of the special effects could be a bit more energetic Superman escape - More theming in the queue line to make it feel more like a subway (eg ticket machines, signage, 24 hour clocks, TVs with departure times, snack vending machines), on the ride itself i would improve the theming at the start (in paticular i would get rid of the mural at metropolis square station as it looks crap, instead it should be a 3D set. Lethal Weapon - Rusted car bodies as leg choppers.

Exactly, Its a theme park site, half the fun is speculating and whingeing. Plus, whats this bull about "Australian standards", are you saying we should put up with sub par attractions because of our locations. But anyway, Australian standards are pretty good now (with some of the recent stuff done by WVTP proving this).

I was just wondering if anyone could post any pictures of the food and bev packaging used at Austrailan parks (In paticular WnW)? basically for my visual communication and design folio i have set my two finals to be a plan for a water park, and designs for F&B containers with the park logo etc. As part of that we have to do research relating to what we are doing which is why it would be very useful if people could post up some. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Well they were behind Boomerang Bay and that park has plenty of Proslides. But I know what you mean, so far DWWP does not look paticularly special, though im keeping an open mind.

Nah, Water Technology is just a water park designer, they dont make actual slides, also I wouldnt assume too much from the support design because its just an industry standard, just take a look at Sidewinders at WnW, they use the same support type. Also, i dont think Dorney had the same theming company that did the claw, that will change things a bit definitley....

Yeah, i wouldnt get to upset, It will not be SP.

Because a Space Shot can do that many launches

Also, check www.proslide.com for ride info. The tornado is about 25m high and roughly the same length along the bottom, 18m wide at one end and 4m at the other, has 3m wide lead up tunnels

Nah, the Rocket only uses conveyor belts.

Thats what I was thinking too, since on some Proslide slides they use poured concrete tubes, but at other times they use timber supports or normal steel tubes so it might not be . There seems to be no real pattern to it. I even with AWL there isnt always consistency, like the supports on Mammoth are a lattice, but on Terror Canyon plain steel poles are used. Though one thing i did notice was the starting tubs that are now on site are dual entry, but AWL normally uses in inline type one. Well just have to wait and see, but to tell you the truth, i dont really care who its from, just as long as they are good. Also, GoBoi, the link you posted is not a Master Blaster.

Plus the fact the ride has already been ordered. But hey dont let the facts get in the way of a good story

Dunno, im just guessing remember, maybe it belongs to another slide.

With water slides, it tends to be that for lower supports they just use concrete (since at that size concrete is cheaper) , but for the higher supports it becomes more economical to use steel (since a concrete support capable of the same load would be more expensive (and large)) My other theory is that maybe the supports are for slides from different manufacturers who have their own ways of doing things. The green poles remind me of the La Trobe St bridge in Melbourne (which has lime green lights and railings), it looks ok as a modern thing, but not so good in a themed area. See the attachment (Its rabids pic BTW) of how i think the supports could work.

Just another point to highlight WVTPs poor advertising; Have a look at their other big investment, Extreme H20 zone. On their website all they have is a short description that poorly describes the slides (you would think they would milk it for all its worth and list it as 4 new rides (black hole, sidewinder, freefall, jet streams) and no images of the slides. Instead on their website they seem more intent on advertising the re-opening of Whirlpool Springs. If this is the sort of regard they pay to their new rides........

But arent you sort of burying your head in the sand by ignoring improvements the park may have made? Its a fair point you made about supermarket, but the thing with that is you visit often, (up to several times a week) so you get a good picture of customer service and you can make a fair judgement. But with a theme park you might only visit yearly or less, so its hard to gain a proper perspective, but notice some of the people here who visit often say that the parks are fairly even, i think it would be worth listening to these people as they would be able to make the fairest judgement. But anyway, on my visit they were all good in terms of service........ I think you might have just had some bad luck, If its really that bad, complain, and if they dont somehow make good at that point then you could say fairly that the service is genuinley bad.

With Superman, I think its weird how people are bagging it now for being intense, painful etc when a few months ago everyone was raving about how much they loved the launch and the airtime and how it was nice and smooth because it was Intamin, and how they would gladly ride it a bazillion times in one day because it was so fun, if Intensity and pain was really an issue would this be the case? IMO the ride itself was fine. And as for the ride time, well Xcellerator goes for about 22 secs, and lets not forget TOT goes for about 28 secs, launched coasters are just an inherently short ride. Yes, i agree that SE could have been done a bit better, it opened late, still has a crap locker system and the theming has been underdone, and they still persist with 1 train when its too busy for it the latter 3 should have been rectified by now, and it is to their detriment that they continue to ignore this. Also, here in the southern states we havent really seen that much in terms of advertising for the ride, and as Richo said, they dont stress the qualities of the ride well enough, i mean at my local corner shop the ice cream case has promotional stuff to do with the Streets promotion for SE. On this material the font style is the same as other SE promotion, and the MW logo as well as an image of the front car is inculded, but there is absolutley no to SE or is features. An unknowing member of the public may have no idea what ride is being depicted. I think in all ads for the ride they need to get some nice shots emphasising the top has as well as the 0 to 100 in 2 secs tagline, these are vital features and are much more interesting than just a shot of a single car. But i think with the upcoming release of Superman Returns we could see some more cross promotion, i think they might just be hanging on to do this, in which case i think it could have been smarter to have opened SE this year in line with the movie, and just let shrek 2 have more time in the limelight. With the general quality of the ride, i think just an extra $250000 would have basically clinched it and enabled them to really do some nice finishing touches, but hey, its their decision As for customer service, all parks were about the same, it was pretty good and I had no real bad moments. But as with any buisness, they are only as good as your last visit, so they need to work to ensure 100% service is delivered all the time. I think the main reason for MWs problems can only be attributed to the park themselves and their actions, not really the whims of the public.

Geeze, thats not too bad actually, there are flats in some cities that cost more than that. It really highlights how much better value water parks represent for park owners, i mean, the Claw cost 24 times that amount, but would come no where near the hourly capacity and general appeal. Hopefully we will get a nice sized pool with big surfable waves.

Personally i like shades of brown, it can be themed better that way (Typhoon Lagoon and Wild Wadi are examples of how this has been done well)

So so far we have lime green, aqua, blue and purple as the colours. Now all we need is hot pink and orange and they will be set....

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You mean that railway line thats like in a viaduct?