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I didnt think it was possible to take a photo of an intangible concept such as ease in operating a ride.

I thought infinity was nice, I liked that ball room with the strobes, and the light bridge was cool, it was fun making it bounce, and i stuck my foot off the side, its prehaps 30cm down to the floor off the edge. But that bit with the fluffy things was freaky, i took it so slowly going through that.

No, those ones you described are called clover leaf rafts, and yes the do seat 4 people (or 3, they make one in a 3 person shape too). The ones i want to know about are whirly wheel rafts, according to the Proslide website they were developed this year and hold 2 people.

That has to be one of the most original slides i have seen in a while, cant wait to see one built. Though what are these whirly wheel rafts they speak of, are they like a mini version of the ones on mammoth falls but only holding 2 people?

I think its just an attempt at a theme, they were called black hole back in Brazil (like all of the WnW parks over there), so its probably an attempt at themeing (eg black hole <-> stars) Slides dont really need vent holes to my knowledge, i mean there are those indoor waterparks in snowy places and the entire slide is out of the building so they cant have vent holes on them or heat would leak out which is bad since its hard keeping the whole place warm anyway. And even so, the vents could be made to not let light in (just have a sort of bend in it to keep light out) So yeah, im saying theming, though i do agree with what you are saying, i prefer a pure unadulterated dark run without lights. The waterslide at MSAC was like this for a while but they ended up drilling holes making it less dark.

Yeah, good point. But after my visit i was a bit dissapointed, it was basically just a big pool, which isnt all that great since thats not exactly special and there was nothing to to in it. The water slides lines were waaay to long, but the slides were too short, though ill rate krakatoas. Plus there was not much for kids, just one slide and a wading pool. The other bad thing was there were no short stay lockers, they only had all day ones, but nobody would be there all day. So yeah, bring on DWWP, there will definitley be ample replacement for the rides so it wont be too bad.

What i meant was the fact there arent little holes in the bottom of the raft like on Mammoth Falls, so no water comes into the boat that way, but of course you would still get the odd splash, but not as much as an Intamin rapids ride.

Its not as if it will be that hard to replace anyway, it will be quite easy to build a ring ride and a body slide as part of the new park, and they will probably be better and safer anyway.

But we all know how accurate rct3 is , they dont even have the right rafts on the ride.

Its probably because you werent actually going to buy the ride. Well, basically its just a big concrete channel that slopes downward (to use gravity). The shape of the bottom of the channel basically creates the rapids, so they make it irregular where they want turbulence. But anyway, what there is is a big dam of water large enough to fill the whole ride, and this is where water is stored when the ride is off. When the ride is started all this water is pumped into the main channel, and massive pumps move the water from the lower end of ride up to the top, this is done at such a rate that the entire channel stays full of water, creating the river. If the pumps failed all the water would simply gather at the bottom end of the ride. In terms of saftey features, the ride keeps track of raft locations on the course with the computer system, and automatic gates can close stopping a raft on the ride. This can be done to ensure the rafts run a safe distance apart. I guess the other saftey features are seatbelts for the riders and security cameras and watch towers looking over the ride. There is also a second alternative. White water west ( www.whitewaterwest.com ) make their own rapids ride. It is essentially a mammoth falls style waterslide, but with a conveyor belt to the top, and rafts that are sealed so you can ride it fully clothed. At the bottom of the ride the rafts enter what is basically a lazy river that makes the rafts drift back to the loading station.

Well one thing I would love to see is a Proslide 6 or 8 lane Octopus Racer, its basically like super 8 but with a crazy stacked helix at the top. So for the first bit you cant see the other lanes and are going very fast. See http://www.proslide.com/sub.php?mainRideID=6&rideID=2 or http://www.sfgamworld.com/sfhh/waterslides.php

The one thing Im interested to know is how many actual oscilations you get (Ie how many times you go up on the walls before you are washed out the bottom)

Well you were the one that wrote a curt post with a question you could have answered yourself in 1 minute. Plus whats wrong with a bit of humour.

Who are you? Pauline Hanson? Heres a tip, if you dont know what something is, try google, i searched for "flow rider", and the offical website was the first result. Its much faster than waiting for a reply. Either that you could be less lazy and just read the first page of this thread.

Why dont you join the IAAPA ( http://www.iaapa.org/ ) and visit their trade show in Orlando Florida, it has everything you want to know about on display. IAAPA also has tons of info on their website regarding all aspects of park operation.

I saw it at Angus and Robertson next to "Interpereting Sarcasam for dummies".

Just another couple of ideas: 0) Try building a small attraction as your starting point, for example a 18/36 hole mini golf or something, make sure its high quality and start getting people through, and then go from there. 1) Actually visit some family fun parks, see what works/what doesnt and see how big the park is for some indication of the land you would need. You would need to do this regardless anyway since it would be stupid to jump headlong into building the park. 2) Use Maps, Google Earth Images of some parks to see how big they are etc. 3) Get professional advice, not just some of kids on the internet, i mean, someone with the presumably millions it would take to build even a small park would probably have the buisness sense to do this.

Yeah guys i dont think we need any more people to post the fact its closed forever and devoid of attractions.

Yeah, just visit some manufacturers websites and check out the tech specs of the rides you want, and see the dimensions needed for safe operation, then sort of do a draft layout of the park and work out how much land it would take. Also have a look at some public buildings (public toilet blocks, kiosks in parks) and prehaps some paths in public parks to work out how much area infastructure like that would need. Sorry but you need to be less vauge in your description, we have no idea how big this park would be. Though a little suggestion, i would start out as a small waterpark, slides are cheaper and more reliable than most mechanical rides, yet are still popular.

Gee, you sure are full of questions, anyway here are some websites. here are some websites: http://www.hussrides.com/61experienced.htm http://www.usedrides.com/ http://www.amusementtrader.com/ http://www.italintl.com/ http://www.amusement-rides.com/home.htm Those were just the first few results for a google search on "used rides"

Depends, just look around for land big enough to fit one in the area you want to build in. How are you funding it.

Makes you wonder why they bother with signs telling you to save water in the loos at WnW if they turn around and do that.

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To tell you the truth, there seems to be little rhyme or reason to it, different operators have different things in mind, and often parks just end up where they are by a lucky chain of events, take Sea World, i think it once started out as like a seal pool or something like that, and gradually it just got bigger expanding till it took up all of the spit, or with Alton Towers in the UK, it began as a family estate that had public gardens that operated for 100s of years, but they decided to add a few carnival rides and things just snowballed creating what it is today. Other times investors just find a big plot of land, and with a bit of cash and a lot of imagination a park emerges, often this happens a fair way out in the sticks, like Wonderland, Dreamworld or Movie World in Madrid. But basically the land you would need would have to be appropriatley zoned, close to civilisation and a market of potential visitors but no too close as to disturb people with noise, it would have to be a good size too and have space for the future.

1. No 2. A dirt pit now, nothing remains, they might have built some of the industrial estate on it. 3.Yeah, there are plenty around, a good site for info and pics is http://www.octiva.net/wonderland/ also poking around the wonderland forum here should give plenty of info. 4.Yeah, i think some of the info may be on the said site. 5. I think a lot of the kids rides were Zamperla, SP was built by Ride Trade, SSR, Galleons Graveyard and Bountys Revenge by Intamin, Bush Beast and Beastie by Kings, Demon by Vekoma Anyway, welcome.