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But we all know how accurate rct3 is , they dont even have the right rafts on the ride.

Its probably because you werent actually going to buy the ride. Well, basically its just a big concrete channel that slopes downward (to use gravity). The shape of the bottom of the channel basically creates the rapids, so they make it irregular where they want turbulence. But anyway, what there is is a big dam of water large enough to fill the whole ride, and this is where water is stored when the ride is off. When the ride is started all this water is pumped into the main channel, and massive pumps move the water from the lower end of ride up to the top, this is done at such a rate that the entire channel stays full of water, creating the river. If the pumps failed all the water would simply gather at the bottom end of the ride. In terms of saftey features, the ride keeps track of raft locations on the course with the computer system, and automatic gates can close stopping a raft on the ride. This can be done to ensure the rafts run a safe distance apart. I guess the other saftey features are seatbelts for the riders and security cameras and watch towers looking over the ride. There is also a second alternative. White water west ( www.whitewaterwest.com ) make their own rapids ride. It is essentially a mammoth falls style waterslide, but with a conveyor belt to the top, and rafts that are sealed so you can ride it fully clothed. At the bottom of the ride the rafts enter what is basically a lazy river that makes the rafts drift back to the loading station.

Well one thing I would love to see is a Proslide 6 or 8 lane Octopus Racer, its basically like super 8 but with a crazy stacked helix at the top. So for the first bit you cant see the other lanes and are going very fast. See http://www.proslide.com/sub.php?mainRideID=6&rideID=2 or http://www.sfgamworld.com/sfhh/waterslides.php

The one thing Im interested to know is how many actual oscilations you get (Ie how many times you go up on the walls before you are washed out the bottom)

Well you were the one that wrote a curt post with a question you could have answered yourself in 1 minute. Plus whats wrong with a bit of humour.

Who are you? Pauline Hanson? Heres a tip, if you dont know what something is, try google, i searched for "flow rider", and the offical website was the first result. Its much faster than waiting for a reply. Either that you could be less lazy and just read the first page of this thread.

Why dont you join the IAAPA ( http://www.iaapa.org/ ) and visit their trade show in Orlando Florida, it has everything you want to know about on display. IAAPA also has tons of info on their website regarding all aspects of park operation.

I saw it at Angus and Robertson next to "Interpereting Sarcasam for dummies".

Just another couple of ideas: 0) Try building a small attraction as your starting point, for example a 18/36 hole mini golf or something, make sure its high quality and start getting people through, and then go from there. 1) Actually visit some family fun parks, see what works/what doesnt and see how big the park is for some indication of the land you would need. You would need to do this regardless anyway since it would be stupid to jump headlong into building the park. 2) Use Maps, Google Earth Images of some parks to see how big they are etc. 3) Get professional advice, not just some of kids on the internet, i mean, someone with the presumably millions it would take to build even a small park would probably have the buisness sense to do this.

Yeah guys i dont think we need any more people to post the fact its closed forever and devoid of attractions.

Yeah, just visit some manufacturers websites and check out the tech specs of the rides you want, and see the dimensions needed for safe operation, then sort of do a draft layout of the park and work out how much land it would take. Also have a look at some public buildings (public toilet blocks, kiosks in parks) and prehaps some paths in public parks to work out how much area infastructure like that would need. Sorry but you need to be less vauge in your description, we have no idea how big this park would be. Though a little suggestion, i would start out as a small waterpark, slides are cheaper and more reliable than most mechanical rides, yet are still popular.

Gee, you sure are full of questions, anyway here are some websites. here are some websites: http://www.hussrides.com/61experienced.htm http://www.usedrides.com/ http://www.amusementtrader.com/ http://www.italintl.com/ http://www.amusement-rides.com/home.htm Those were just the first few results for a google search on "used rides"

Depends, just look around for land big enough to fit one in the area you want to build in. How are you funding it.

Makes you wonder why they bother with signs telling you to save water in the loos at WnW if they turn around and do that.

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To tell you the truth, there seems to be little rhyme or reason to it, different operators have different things in mind, and often parks just end up where they are by a lucky chain of events, take Sea World, i think it once started out as like a seal pool or something like that, and gradually it just got bigger expanding till it took up all of the spit, or with Alton Towers in the UK, it began as a family estate that had public gardens that operated for 100s of years, but they decided to add a few carnival rides and things just snowballed creating what it is today. Other times investors just find a big plot of land, and with a bit of cash and a lot of imagination a park emerges, often this happens a fair way out in the sticks, like Wonderland, Dreamworld or Movie World in Madrid. But basically the land you would need would have to be appropriatley zoned, close to civilisation and a market of potential visitors but no too close as to disturb people with noise, it would have to be a good size too and have space for the future.

1. No 2. A dirt pit now, nothing remains, they might have built some of the industrial estate on it. 3.Yeah, there are plenty around, a good site for info and pics is http://www.octiva.net/wonderland/ also poking around the wonderland forum here should give plenty of info. 4.Yeah, i think some of the info may be on the said site. 5. I think a lot of the kids rides were Zamperla, SP was built by Ride Trade, SSR, Galleons Graveyard and Bountys Revenge by Intamin, Bush Beast and Beastie by Kings, Demon by Vekoma Anyway, welcome.

Who knows, they may be going for a september opening like the claw, prehaps to tie in with the opening of tornado and to beat DWWPs opening. These rides are actuall pretty fast to build, i think the ride itself could be up in a couple of weeks since the crane doesnt even have to move.

Aff, ill give you a bit of a rundown , B&M ( http://www.bolliger-mabillard.com ) are regarded quite highly (along with Intamin, there tends to be a bit of debate over who is better ( www.intaminworldwide.com)) as being the worlds best coaster manufacturer, because of their high quality, innovation, twisted track layouts and comfort. So when people dream about new rides for their local park often a B&M is at the top of the wishlist. But these days many manufacturers are coming out with some very cool ideas that would rival B&M. But back to the dreaming, i would love to see an S&S screamin squirrel like Sawmill Adventure at Gardaland (http://www.rcdb.com/id2942.htm), it looks crazy and could be fitted in anywhere in the park really. I think it could make a nice rocky hollow or Gold Rush attraction.

Aqua max is a brand of water heaters so ill strike that one out. I thought H2 oz and Bluewater Bay sound pretty nice. But i think all of them would sound better if they had "Dreamworlds'" at the start eg "Dreamworlds' Bluewater Bay", i guess it would be similar to how its called "Disneys' California Adventure"

It would be if was a ride of that type (roller soaker) Yes, both aiming ability from those on the ground and the ability to time your water dumps well when you are on the ride. Yes because it involves water and you get soaked. But considering it is an interim attraction i doubt it will be that big anyway.

Adam did you do a google bomb attack?

Remember one end of DW is construction site so some of the work could have already been done in terms of ground preparation, we havent seen an update for a while so there could easily be some stuff done.

Im taking a punt and I think it could be the Vekoma one, setpoint seems a bit dead, they dont even link to their coaster divison any more off the main site.

Nah... Police Academy is the only ride that i can think of that couldnt be translated properly, but even then you could build the back drop and put the car theming objecs in there. Plus id rather see just a "pure" mw.