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To tell you the truth, there seems to be little rhyme or reason to it, different operators have different things in mind, and often parks just end up where they are by a lucky chain of events, take Sea World, i think it once started out as like a seal pool or something like that, and gradually it just got bigger expanding till it took up all of the spit, or with Alton Towers in the UK, it began as a family estate that had public gardens that operated for 100s of years, but they decided to add a few carnival rides and things just snowballed creating what it is today. Other times investors just find a big plot of land, and with a bit of cash and a lot of imagination a park emerges, often this happens a fair way out in the sticks, like Wonderland, Dreamworld or Movie World in Madrid. But basically the land you would need would have to be appropriatley zoned, close to civilisation and a market of potential visitors but no too close as to disturb people with noise, it would have to be a good size too and have space for the future.

1. No 2. A dirt pit now, nothing remains, they might have built some of the industrial estate on it. 3.Yeah, there are plenty around, a good site for info and pics is http://www.octiva.net/wonderland/ also poking around the wonderland forum here should give plenty of info. 4.Yeah, i think some of the info may be on the said site. 5. I think a lot of the kids rides were Zamperla, SP was built by Ride Trade, SSR, Galleons Graveyard and Bountys Revenge by Intamin, Bush Beast and Beastie by Kings, Demon by Vekoma Anyway, welcome.

Who knows, they may be going for a september opening like the claw, prehaps to tie in with the opening of tornado and to beat DWWPs opening. These rides are actuall pretty fast to build, i think the ride itself could be up in a couple of weeks since the crane doesnt even have to move.

Aff, ill give you a bit of a rundown , B&M ( http://www.bolliger-mabillard.com ) are regarded quite highly (along with Intamin, there tends to be a bit of debate over who is better ( www.intaminworldwide.com)) as being the worlds best coaster manufacturer, because of their high quality, innovation, twisted track layouts and comfort. So when people dream about new rides for their local park often a B&M is at the top of the wishlist. But these days many manufacturers are coming out with some very cool ideas that would rival B&M. But back to the dreaming, i would love to see an S&S screamin squirrel like Sawmill Adventure at Gardaland (http://www.rcdb.com/id2942.htm), it looks crazy and could be fitted in anywhere in the park really. I think it could make a nice rocky hollow or Gold Rush attraction.

Aqua max is a brand of water heaters so ill strike that one out. I thought H2 oz and Bluewater Bay sound pretty nice. But i think all of them would sound better if they had "Dreamworlds'" at the start eg "Dreamworlds' Bluewater Bay", i guess it would be similar to how its called "Disneys' California Adventure"

It would be if was a ride of that type (roller soaker) Yes, both aiming ability from those on the ground and the ability to time your water dumps well when you are on the ride. Yes because it involves water and you get soaked. But considering it is an interim attraction i doubt it will be that big anyway.

Adam did you do a google bomb attack?

Remember one end of DW is construction site so some of the work could have already been done in terms of ground preparation, we havent seen an update for a while so there could easily be some stuff done.

Im taking a punt and I think it could be the Vekoma one, setpoint seems a bit dead, they dont even link to their coaster divison any more off the main site.

Nah... Police Academy is the only ride that i can think of that couldnt be translated properly, but even then you could build the back drop and put the car theming objecs in there. Plus id rather see just a "pure" mw.

Another option is to use a lift chain with a fast speed using the david braben cheat. Also, just a suggestion for WWF, use the log flume as the ride type (Not splash boats) so you can have a turntable.

RCT3 wouldnt take that much out of it, or had you filled up your HD completley and needed the last bit of space RCT3 was using?

Its the thing that is basically and industrial robot with 2 seats on the end so it can spin you around quite freely on any axis.

Wiggles World, Wet n Wild and Weribee Zoo also featured.

I designed it so it would fit into the middle of SE. I was sort of leaning towards the indoor queue because it is more in line with what MW does, can be air conditioned and can have themeing that wouldnt normally survive in the open. I think the one I did could be done fairly cheaply, just make it out of fibro or besa blocks or something and then go over that with whatever is needed to make it look nice, the only part that would be a bit more expensive would be the glassed in front entrance but it would be worth it.

Ok, here is the sketch i promised .

My Documents>RCT3>Coasters or it could be Parks or Scenarios better play it safe and put it in all 3, im not actually sure how adam saved it but thats what i did

So has anyone got any photos or TRs?

Coaster nut readers of the Sunday Herald Sun are in for a bit of a treat today, there is a colour 8 page lifout (Probly cost them $$$) of the lastest happenings at "The Gold Coasts greatest theme parks" (SE, Outback Spectacular, Sharks, Shrek, E-h2o-Z, BH etc) It actually looks really good with great photos (Good work Rabif if you were the one who took them). All the text is straight from the press releases but hopefully this will go a long way for getting people to travel up. One thing that i found very interesting was the way MW was promoted on its page, rather than being all about the glitz and glamour of Hollywood on the Gold Coast they seem to be pushing MW as the place to "Ride Australias best thrill rides" and they are even showing it as their own big 4 (LW,SE,WWF,SDSC) , obviously a swipe at DW but hey, good luck to em'. An interesting little read.

Ok, so heres a more complete idea for a space shot at MW. The rides name would be: LexCorp: Antigrav. The basic theme would be you being a test subject to one of Lex Luthours inventions, a device capable of controlling gravity (hence the ride being a space shot). The rides main entrance would be like the entrance lobby to an office tower (LexCorp naturally) It would be a couple of stories high, all glassed in and you would enter via a revolving door. This part would be where the overflow part of the queue would be so it would be swtich backs with chrome posts and rope between them (like in a bank). There would be fake lift doors on each side and at the opposite side of the lobby to the entrance would be the receptionists desk, hanging above the desk would be a banner that says "LexCorp open day", prehaps a pre recorded message would play that would tell people that LexCorp is having a open day so the public can view LexCorps work and have an exclusive look at the development labs. So anyway the queue would then head out through a set of doors into the labs. It would really just be a wide-ish coridoor that wraps around the rides launch area, but completley indoors and windowless. This area would have clean lino floors and fluro lights. Neatly alligned cables would run along the roof (none of that random crap like on GD), LCD screens would be mounted frequently showing info about lex corp and random scientific and engineering data (eg graphs, cad drawings etc). along the queue would be work stations, server cabinets, computers and bits of other equipment in glass cases (eg robotic arms, prototype devices, electronics that have been disssasembled) the themeing would have a degree of interactivity but it would be designed to be vandal resistant. Another feature could be interactive touch screens, where people queuing could do stuff like look through the LexCorp employee data base, run some programs, graphing software etc. As you get to the last part of the queue you are taken in in groups of 28 (basing that on a single Huss Shot'n'Drop Maxi) The door locks behind you where Lex himself appears on a screen. He tells you about his latest invention: the Anitgrav and how it will give him an all new level of power, and how you (the riders) are going to be who it will be tested on. A door then opens and you are forced out into the launch area and made to buckle in (there would be free item storage on the ride since you land where you started and the secuity risk is low since riders could see down into the launch area). The launch area would have polished concrete floors with lines painted on and large bits of machinery all around. on each side of the tower would be an electronic sign showing the current gravitational conditions. Intially it would show "NORMAL", but moments before launch it would change to "REVERSED", with that you would be shot up the tower and the ride program would commence (I dont actually know the exact program for these rides, can someone help) At the end of the ride the electronic signs would say "TECHNICAL ERROR" and you would disembark, as you head out the exit you would hear a recording of Lex saying something along the lines of "my Antigrav! my source of power! ruined!" Thats basically it, I actually just got corel draw so i did a rough idea of how the outside of the ride would look overall, later on i might post some sketches of the inside. Edit: did a revised floor plan for the ride. Basically the foyer part would face north and be directly beside the LW building.

Yeah, i also believe some flats need to be incorporated, however they should still have good themeing (At least Claw standard), maybe they could take paramounts approach and put it indoors (like the tomb raider top spin), at least that way you could incorporate some good theming, and also have the bonus of an all weather attraction. Also, Kenny, Space Shots can still be built pretty high, i think 80m is the limit and that is a fairly respectable height, It would have even more of an impact if it was 2 or three towers like it dominating the skyline, so it could work well. If such a ride were to be built at MW i think a cool place to put it could be in the middle of SE (in that sandy part that is currently gated off), Im unsure as to how many towers could fit in that space, but it would look good if it was panneled like Maliboomer intstead of leaving it as a plain framework. It could be made to look like a city skycraper. The rides theme could be themed so something in the superman universe, (It has been suggested a good theme could be one of lex luthours machines) Also, since the whole area is just surrounded by white sheds (Back of LW,Batman, Superman etc) they could have skyscraper facades too, and it would become a metropolis themed area.

Also, another thing, Channel 7 is airing a theme park special on the Great Outdoors at 7:30 next monday (20/3/06) They are apparently showing KBF and MW from what i was told.

Has anyone seen that Mack at the Amsterdam Dungeons where the station is the lift? what happens is that you board the vehicle but there is a wall directly in front and behind you, and then the whole loading room just lifts up, IMO it is a pretty cool idea. Another little manufacturer i like is Wiegand, the coasters they make may be small (and in some peoples eyes not even a coaster eg RCDB) but i really do like their alpine coaster, its fast, safe, fairly cheap and makes good use of the terrain (Terrain coasters are actualy my personal favourite) and i hope some day i can ride one.

You missed out on a few there, but Im going to say both B&M and Intamin because they have been doing some really good rides lately. But i also like GCI and Maurer Sohne, and Mack seem to be pretty solid too.

I get it, but Curtains? They must have read Richos review. Too bad nobody can get a pic of what they have done (Except maybe for a shot taken through the exit door in the shop.