DaptoFunlandGuy

Because every time a forum member is near him they try to run him over? i don't know i'm just trying to guess at his logic. 30 metres would be a very unsafe distance on a 100km/h highway. You won't even react that fast, let alone put on the brakes. People misjudge distance while driving, and while 30 metres seems a lot, it's literally nothing. Your braking distance at that speed is around 55 metres. Reaction time varies between people depending on how hazard aware they are, and whether they're actually paying attention at the time. In Queensland I find the answers to both of those questions tend to be 'not very' - but this is generalising and I recognise there are a lot of good drivers up here too - how to tell them apart? the good ones aren't sitting on the side of the road waiting for a tow truck and making a police report (although the bad ones sometimes take out the good ones through no fault of their own) This is a nice quick article that explains stopping and reaction times http://www.drivered.com.au/following.html and this is the official word from QLD DoT on the issue https://www.qld.gov.au/transport/safety/road-safety/driving-safely/stopping-distances/graph/index.html the short answer is in perfect conditions it will take you a minimum of 100m to stop safely - so at 30m, you aren't "travelling safely". The distance is increased in wet weather, if you have worn tyres or brakes, and of course if you are distracted, drunk, tired or otherwise impaired.

I see what you did there! Actually the carpark to the west (as can be seen in images from nearmap) had a temporary film set constructed on it With absolutely no insider knowledge whatsoever, my prediction is that Reanimated's version of events is correct, and BBF is completely wrong and should probably take the hint.

plus the sound effects are still there... thats theme...?

Well hey - it's kinda true - that would be the sort of grain of truth they'd take and run with...

with all the theming walls removed, there would be decidedly more space in the dark ride section, and they could potentially lead a small group through that area - although i'm not sure whether it would be much more exciting than the disco room would be.

fine. good for them - i'm still unlikely to use it when I have a one year old if the walkway can accommodate it without completely blocking it. If i've just brought a stroller for say - a 3 year old capable of walking about by himself but just so he doesn't tire out his legs, i'm sure he could do without the stroller in a restaurant for half an hour - but younger children - especially those not yet walking have little patience to be in a highchair, and the stroller is both more comfortable, convenient for taking a nap if appropriate (and trust me - the parents pray its appropriate), as well as carrying all of the child's food, drinks, cleaning supplies, change of clothes etc etc. I'm not parking that in an out of the way parking area - but by all means will do so when the stroller is nothing more than a leg-saver.

another possibility could also be that until they do drainage works, one doesn't want to fence an area subject to flash flooding, lest debris collect against the fence in the ditch, and drag it along for the ride...

no, thats pretty usual - I just usually go back and edit it if i see it - i re-read things again after I post them. In this case I saw 'fil' but was about to head off for work and decided it got the point across and didn't care. I don't see what the problem is with the rest of the first line - it reads ok to me... ...and capitals at the start of a sentence \ paragraph are dependent on what computer i'm on - some auto capitalise for me, and some dont. Again - it reads fine, so i didn't care.

Yep - non urgent recovery involves a winchup platform as mentioned above. In this case the park (rightly in my opinion) decided to call QFES for an aerial appliance - something which is far quicker than the platform.

I actually find Arkham seats to be quite comfortable - the slight lean-back tilt of the seats has you reclining a little. If the train still had the old restraints, I wouldn't be so forgiving, as it would have been an effort to do much more than look straight ahead. With the new harnesses however - you'll find the many people who have commented on them (in the arkham retheme thread a while back) noted that whilst they were tight, they generally weren't uncomfortable until the end of the ride - after they've been jostled around through the track. The rubber chest harnesses are very comfortable when first applied, and whilst on an uphill slope, you wouldn't be pressed against them - so any 'tightness' at this stage wouldn't be something most people would even notice. It is these factors which lead me to compare it to an airline seat, and I don't think that's playing it down. I'll now take you to task on 'playing it up' - with your reference to being "in direct sun" - this is from page one of this very thread: As you can see - the structure provides almost complete shade to every rider, with 'at best' direct sun on an outside arm or leg. Needless to say, this particular topic of conversation arose because of your erroneous statement that they were upside down, and the comments in reply were simply to point out they weren't upside down, they were seated right way up, in a similar fashion to an airline seat. I didn't go into any further detail over environmental impacts such as heat or sunlight, and didn't downplay anything except for the sensationalist claim made by a foreign media outlet that they were inverted.

so, what you're saying is - they haven't fenced the entire site...

In any restaurant, a good server will usually position parents with a stroller on a major walkway, so that it can be parked next to the table whilst still permitting a reasonable passageway. My little guy is about to turn 1, so with my limited year of experience with this thing, they can be tricky to maneuver into narrow areas, and this sort of accommodation at a restaurant is very much appreciated. If it is blocking more than half the walkway, I totally agree with you, but few restaurants offer a special area for strollers to be parked, and you would be surprised at the amount of shit you need to carry with you for one tiny little human. If it partially blocks a path meaning one-way traffic only is possible, you'll have to wait a few extra seconds before you can get through - boo-hoo. remember, your parents once parked you beside a table whilst they tried to enjoy a rare sit-down meal - everybody was a baby once...

Struggle to fil? Or are running on single operator and keep row open to crossover? Buzzsaw was always very polarising - lots of people avoided it because of the style of ride - and many people i know who have been on it, wouldn't go again because the harness system makes them feel very unsafe. Combine that with it being literally the only thing through the gold rush tunnel in a dead end backwater cul de sac, and you're left with low patronage. but if you like it - don't complain - that's not a bad thing - just means you get more rides on it without having to queue. It's not like they'd tear it down just because of low popularity - otherwise MDMC would be long gone.

Shit - that was hard. http://bfy.tw/9PEA http://movieworld.com.au/Food-and-shopping/Food.aspx Does anyone actually try to find the information out themselves anymore?

ahhhh the buoys... how right you are...

We're back in 2004!!!

Thanks for the ex-staff insights Mickey - appreciated. You don't wanna be saying limit or proxy switches though - that'll give the media another angle to tie-in to TRRR - many articles at the time referenced the possibility of faulty (or missing) limit or proxy switches, and it'll be a media circus once again. On that note, the media quoted Greg as saying 'fault with the chain' but it sounds like he says 'fault with the train'... As reanimated just beat me to it - they weren't upside down - it would be similar to being in an airplane seat for 90 minutes - although Arkham has more leg room. It is important when you've had a prepared statement drafted that you read it word for word. It's not a public speaking contest from a person on the debate team, it is a representative of a corporation making a statement to the media - it's important you get it right, as the statement prepared is carefully worded to ensure it delivers the right message. As Tony Abbott once said (and i'm paraphrasing here) 'you can't hold me to off the cuff unscripted statements, only prepared, scripted statements' Once the scripted statement was read I think he did a fine job throughout the interview, and I won't criticise him for ensuring he read the statement precisely. Also - these guys usually grab the statement off the printer and head straight to the cameras once the statement is approved. Are you suggesting he should have spent 15 minutes inside rehearsing it to memorise it first? Actually, i've seen a coaster stuck upside down - Demon at Wonderland could (and has) stopped in the middle of the boomerang, resulting in several riders being stopped inverted. I imagine other boomerangs have too - this is why Demon had evac stairs in the boomerang. It is theoretically possible if a coaster was to throw a wheel or break an axle that the car could have enough momentum to make it up, but not through a loop or corkscrew on almost any inversion on almost any coaster. Rare - certainly, but capable - certainly. I've done media interviews in my capacity as incident controller for major incidents occurring in Brisbane. I've been lucky that the crews i've worked with have understood that my role isn't media liaison, and they've always been polite, understanding, and happy to 'do over' a question where my answer wasn't quite right - even then, knowing I had full control of what was allowed to go to air - it was still quite nervewracking. I can imagine how much more difficult it would be to have a 'mob' of press, who you could regard as 'hostile' (as opposed to cooperative) based on the video i've seen doing one long stretch recorded and aired unedited and in full. I think Greg did a stellar job in the circumstances, on what - really - was a total fucking non event that the media shouldn't have bothered even going on site for.

part of the site is missing in your google maps picture.

You do realise that it would be very rare for a day to go by where a ride didn't have a mechanical stoppage requiring evac, right? it's just sometimes they're more complex, more visible, and take longer to fix.

And here's a map. That's movie world to the right of the picture, and the green marker is the wake park property. looks like they have the potential to have several lakes open - so fast \ slow, maybe others too. the small lake is about the size of the FOH areas (including ride footprints) of MW itself... the perimeter of the lake on nearmap (yes its still the same september date as the previously posted pictures of MW) is about 1.4km around. Tthe big one is over three times that size, with a lakeshore permeter of about 3kms!!!

YAY for cables! i spent many days when i was younger honing my skiing skills at Penrith Cables (cheaper than putting the boat in the river for the day) - I do hope they're successful - can't wait to give them a spin and see how they compare.

Article updated again (and link has changed from original posted above) Park has made a statement through Greg "Young" - although i'll call this an auto correct error instead of ignorance as my phone also tried to auto correct 'yong' to 'young' as well. Mechanical issue with the (lift) chain seems to be the culprit. I see they've used QFES for part of the article, but not for the other. Given ES were called around 12pm, and some guests are already cleared, less than 2 hours is hardly a major catastrophe.

Should have been: Breaking: Ground. fits the news theme journos seem to use these days...

The News.com article has now been entirely rewritten by a News.com journo, instead of pirating the CourierMail feed directly, and the following drivel is now courtesy of Kim Stephens: So just a few issues here: whilst it is technically a heatwave by the bureau of meteorology definition, current bureau observations peg the temperature at the park somewhere between 30 and 35 degrees, which is hardly 'stifling' - in this case, being a suspended coaster is an advantage as the midday sun being near to directly overhead means they're pretty well shaded from it. If they've called the Queensland Fire and Rescue Service (QFRS) to assist, they're going to be waiting a while as QFRS doesn't exist. The current authority for rescues of this nature would be QFES - Queensland Fire and Emergency Services. (It's also not really a "vertical rescue" - although QFES would have deployed operators skilled in VR. Passengers MAY wear a VR headset. Being December has 31 days, Dreamworld opened on December 10 and it's currently January 11 - no math is going to make it 'less than a month after dreamworld reopened - the article even ends citing the date they reopened. There really is no reason to include reference to the dreamworld incident, the identities of the victims or details of the incident, as there is no similarity, reference or parallel to draw to this incident. The only reference you should be making is that the ride was subjected to safety audit since the recent incident at dreamworld, and nothing further is needed. At least they had the decency to stipulate that the park was owned by another company. Shows you how the parks are currently feeling towards anybody who could be media, or sell the video to the media. its a shame really... but its private property and they can do what they want.

if something broke, a sensor would have detected it, alerted the operator and if the PLC didn't receive the expected input (for example, I know that on The Demon, the PLC on lift 2 was set to detect the train XX seconds after lift 1 released the train) then it would have automatically thrown the e-stop, whether the operator did or not. Either way - the safety system on the ride has done something, and what it did is what it is supposed to do. Even if the issue here was 'lift motor exploded' - the anti rollbacks on the lift hill prevented the train from falling back into the station - and the anti rollbacks are part of the ride safety system. I used the title in reference to the numerous incidents we've had of late, and the fact that most breaking news reports turn out to be a run of the mill stoppage that happens (semi) regularly. Many responses from enthusiasts to those articles have been in the same vein as this thread title. An evac on Arkham is a bitch for the operators though. Pretty sure @Spotty has previously given us the run down on that - the evac platform has to be winched into position manually I believe?