DaptoFunlandGuy

I don't even bother reading TZI posts. At a time when nobody is talking - I just don't buy half of the rumors they start on. I don't see it being an insanely intense model, but I think they'd be ridiculous to go with a kiddie coaster given their current lineup. I call bullshit, and headline grabbing on behalf of TZI.

If the storyline is a trip to Australia - you want it to be warm and sunny weather. If they come out of the water with perky nipples, it may not make those brits want to visit...

Re: Superman Escape.... you haven't quite nailed the train... seems to be missing something...

How do you figure? Pipelines can be run under water... (Langeled Pipeline runs from Norway to the UK, just over 1000km long) so I don't think they're going to need to drain it. They may also run a pipeline across the roof, rather than along the floor. The Bermuda pipeline was cut off when Jet Rescue was built due to its location. Anyhow - i'm sure they're going to want to put the fire effects in as quickly as possible, and while they may wait until after the first peak season, they may also install it before the 'official' opening - which could potentially be Boxing Day, meaning they've got 2 weeks to get it in.

Well, the kid's car ride at the old LTRR is surely the next area on the cards, so family friendly ride there is quite plausible. It still doesn't rule out the concept of building Doomsday inside SE - only perhaps that it may take a year or two longer for it to eventuate. It's been said several times that DW has the room several ways depending on how you lay it out. along the southern boundary as an out-and-back, but this may impact on the tigers. across the island in the murrisippi (they've already destroyed what little charm this area had, so why not?) Along the northern boundary taking out skylink and surrounding areas (concerns about animals should be allayed unless they go too close - TOT is far worse than a woodie would be) extending out towards Big Brother down the WWW boundary and into the carpark (doable, but it would ruin the street frontage while still looking awesome) Sea World doesn't have a chance - space is at a premium already. Movie World could go either way. Closing off the studio entry beside green lantern would enable a woodie queue to run through that area - running out into the carpark wouldn't ruin the park frontage like DW would, but could have an impact on the studios. The alternative would be to run it out to the east (left) of Wild West Falls, behind the show stage and scooby soundstage. This is an area that has long been speculated over as the potential site for a new attraction, and a woodie would fit perfectly into the Wild West theme. I never rode Cyclone (dipper) at LPS, but in it's current place at Dreamworld was where I proposed to my wife, so I do hold a special place for it for that reason...

Somewhere around the traps here someone uploaded a video of part of the ride - it's probably on YouTube if you have a hunt around...

Ok so short answer is it will be a bonafide addition, and not a replacement - the mouse is staying (for now)...? As for them 'already having a wave swinger'... they don't. They have chair-swings. A Wave Swinger is a vast improvement and a nice upgrade. I must admit it is a helluva thing to photograph at night - but i'll always come back to 'dragon's flight' at Wonderland and that for me is enough to love this new attraction. Regardless of the type of coaster, these expansions are coming thick and fast from AW and is sure to get them on the map as a less-popular, but still must-do trip to the south east QLD area. As with Jamberoo, AW is one of the few parks that survived after the 80's "park boom", and while it's taken a while for them to get traction, they're slowly climbing that hill... can't wait to see what's next.

There have been several threads over the years where those who see the value and quality in a wooden coaster vs. a steel one. Yes, steel is modern, but that doesn't mean wooden coasters are obsolete.... they're a different experience entirely. Do a little searching around the forums and you'll find some of the old threads which will save many from repeating themselves... On my recent trip through the west coast of the USA, I rode many different coasters - wood and steel, of almost every variety imaginable. The one that got closest to shitting myself on was Ghostrider at Knotts - A Custom Coasters International Woodie. It is by far the most out of control experience i've ever had on a coaster. (Colossus at SFMM, while rough, was still a big favourite for me). Ahhh... like Whitewater Mountain, something else that had gone unnoticed for a while. So what do they sell? last time they had mostly HP themed merch - what do they stock these days?

something to consider is - do they have the room to put one of these in with their existing layout? I mean - hopefully, the mouse isn't taken out to put this in...

Yes, I probably could have worded things a lot better. I guess more to my point was most children won't wait until they're ready to wet themselves to say 'i need to go'. I took your description of a 'screaming child' to be one that obviously reached a point of no-return, which in the distances involved, I just couldn't fathom. The distances between Bathrooms at Sea World aren't much different to those found in a normal westfield shopping centre. However, I totally get where you're coming from with the Dolphin show letting out making it difficult to make that distance in a reasonable time, but it wasn't how you put it forward - as you say - a one-liner "I'd say Movieword are best, and Sea World worst - they're a long way between, when you've got a toddler screaming they need to go NOW!" To me implied that only the distances were the problem, not the crowds. Again - acknowledge I could have put that forward better, and apologies - i didn't mean to call your parenting skills into question, moreover just that if the child escalates to screaming in the space of 'seal show to carousel' then the child either isn't toilet trained properly, or the parent was ignoring the earlier signs that the child needed to go. Perhaps your child wasn't 'screaming' as I interpreted it. Again, my sincerest apologies. Wyn - I take your point on board, however medical conditions are a different story. If a child has a bladder issue that results in zero-to-wee in 0:02 seconds, it's a known issue and other measures are generally in place. Although I infrequently take my nephews and nieces to the parks, I do spend time with them in other places more frequently. Sure - i'm not an everyday parent - but it doesn't make my experiences any less valid. If my niece says she needs to go (she's the youngest) we drop everything and head for the nearest bathroom no matter where we are at the time - but usually we don't get to that point, as the earlier warning signs (crotch grabbing, weird face-pulling etc) are generally spotted and acted upon. That said - I admit all kids are different - and no, it doesn't necessarily reflect on the parenting techniques. Sorry Liz. caught me at a weak and frustrated moment.

Not sure how much they could do with sound inside the show building without 'giving away the plot' for those waiting in line....

I know we still have the harry potter store in Main Street left over from some merchandising agreement or similar, but since Universal developed the wizarding world of harry potter, don't they now own the theme park rights? If that is the case, it's unlikely universal's contract would permit another licenseholder - even as remotely far away as we are.

I don't buy this 'sea world's bathrooms are too spaced out' whine. Yes there are a few long stretches - but none further than Arkham's exit to Stars Cafe's restrooms (i'm aware the scale is different in the two maps - fact is Sea World wouldn't fit on one screen at the same zoom) While the quality of Sea World's facilities are a little dated (and they may not be BIG enough), I think the spacing of locations, given what is in between them is quite satisfactory. Parents (and other adults who take small children to theme parks) learn very quickly to take every opportunity for a trip to the toilet - even if Miss 3 says she doesn't need to go - once on the seat she suddenly does. Apologies Lis.Wiz because you will take offence to this... but if your child gets to a point of screaming for a bathroom, you're not parenting very well. As an uncle who takes his nieces and nephews to the parks infrequently, I make it a point of knowing where each bathroom is, and if it's a long stretch to the next one, such as the stretch over the bridge and past the seal show at Sea World - we stop, and everyone goes.

I believe there was some extensive work done inside the show building as they undermined the existing floor - i can see that costing a pretty penny. Sure if you just built a water coaster on a flat block it'd be cheaper, but the location and the existing structures to work around (as well as previous demolition) I can understand why they're saying 20m.

Given thunder river rapids is also a 'river rapids'... not to mention that your avatar is Dreamworld's logo... its perfectly understandable that nobody would have any clue that you meant WetNWild... for one, last time i checked it was called 'Whitewater Mountain', (i know they re-did the slides quite a while back but I don't recall a name change) but at some point unbeknownst to me, they now call those slides 'river rapids' http://wetnwild.com.au/attractions/rides/river-rapids.aspx Last I checked, weren't those slides green and not blue??? It's been a while since I visited WnW so I am quite likely wrong.

I have to ask... but if despatching the log ride is the number 2 attraction on the list... what's number 1?

^...hence why the maximum weight limit of around 130kg (it varies between parks) was imposed. I'm still struggling to figure out how this is even believeable. Short of some 'simpsons-esque' type situation, nobody is getting stuck. For starters - the launch tube is around the same size as the rest of the slide. Secondly - they weigh you before you get on. The only way someone is getting stuck on it is if they are morbidly obese, and all operators are blind and not paying attention - and then maybe.. just MAYBE someone might jam up - but i still call bullshit. this is hypothetical, and not even feasible hypothetical.

on the contrary, by all accounts this is one helluva soaking on this ride, so i'd definitely want a dry, safe place to put my stuff.

Well - you'd have to take out the 'coaster' part... but I guess it's doable. If the train had it's own propulsion drive wheels, it could drive slowly around the track, descend slowly etc, and on thrillseeker mode it could drive at high speed and let gravity take it's course on the downhills... kind of.... peoplemoverish. Yeah. Not going to happen.

I'm happy to admit if i'm wrong, but I call bullshit on this one. I just don't see how the laws of physics would work here - unless their can was too big to fit through the chute...

If we're keeping to their spending habits, ToT won't get a new car. If it were do-able, they could attach the original car onto the front of the other one with an X-car type linkage, but the problem is to get the speed up, the current propulsion system just won't cut it - therefore you're essentially requiring the entire ride drive system to be replaced - so you might as well buy a new ride... because that won't be in a reno budget. Both suggestions so far have identified two of the "newest" rides in dreamworld (with ToT2 only coming out of refurb a couple years ago). If anything needs a retheme in DW, right now it would have to be MDMC - throw in an extra set of kicker wheels halfway round the track (hell - install a NOS button or something for them to hit that kicks it up a notch) so the ride actually has some speed... then install an extra set of brakes to handle it. I know it isn't easy to retrofit a second launch in, but minor track modification would permit the installation of a 'kicker' piece. My other choice would be to install a second block and another train on Cyclone. I don't think anything more needs to be said on that. I realise it doesn't get the queues it used to, so there may not be much point to it now, but perhaps along with it they could revamp it somewhat - give it a tunnel or two to roar through. Maybe give people on the slide towers a water cannon to fire at people (while allowing for the inevitable corrosion that would result)... at least give people something different to make them re-ride it again...

I'm amazed how much construction went by here without being noticed - it seems like it was just last week the DA was identified...

That's fine. You've made it clear that your mind won't be influenced by anyone using logic and reason. Apparently that only works for 'dodgy sales guys' taking advantage of 'dumb tourists'. I just want to ensure theres a voice of reason out there. Your aim was to 'get the message out to everyone'. My aim was to ensure that message was balanced by logic and reason that any reasonable person would understand, and then take on both viewpoints to be assured that while some people obviously dislike how they do business, that there is a logical and legitimate explanation for a lot of the issues you raise, and that they aren't really deserving to be called parasites, liars, thieves or worse. So now that we've both said our piece - and apparently both achieved our aims - i'll do you a deal - agree to disagree? i'll stop if you do? Otherwise if you persist in pushing and belaboring a point you feel you've already made (and repeated several times without regard for the opposing argument) i'll have to likewise show the flaws in your arguments further.

Turbine? That's in the wrong park! Turbines are strictly Dreamworld affair! I must say I love these new quad copter cams that are popping up everywhere. It used to be aerial footage had to be shot by a chopper with the camera hanging out the side. THey'll be able to get some nice close up aerials with the quad copter! Inside the port hole looks interesting

I must disagree - excluding Sea World loses out on major attractions that far exceed that at Dreamworld - Jet Rescue vs. MDMC, Viper vs. Cyclone. If you're talking 'quantity' of rides, then fair enough, but Quality? You've skipped out on a handful of top quality attractions. Just my opinion, nothing more.