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Food for thought, I think there has been some nods to where the theme park would ultimately go if it were to go ahead (near his golf course/resort is most likely) but for me personally would love to see something major happen with a portion of the plantation south of Beerwah on either side of the Bruce Highway. With plenty of clear highway, train route so close, heaps of land and sorrounding forest, there'd be no future landlocking, no sound restrictions, and with a government backing, could make for a sizeable resort/park, something that could be considered worthwhile to south-east queensland and would help give international tourists a starting reason to look our way for a holiday.

I thought this was Parkz, not one of the many Facebook pages that shines a dull light on our otherwise lovely enthusiast community? JacobSibbald, ignoring the silly banter regarding authenticity and taking a light-hearted/adult approach to your post, your rumour is at least an interesting, and if true, would make for a possibly sizeable investment for a thrill ride. What does everybody think would go in? Would you actually like to see go in?

To clarify Brad, i'm not saying bulldoze a building. I'm saying get rid of the tacky crap and do something better. You'll find the most successful entertainment venues/brands (Disney,Universal,Crown,Busch,Village Roadshow) all get that its not about finding a way to make the cheapest, easiest buck possible. Eisner tried with DCA and ultimately failed. That shareholder-priority-driven mentality doesn't fly in this industry. Parks & management that make good money are the parks that invest in the experience and the quality of that experience, not on whiz-bang novelty. Six Flags is a good point on how investing in novelty ideas and attractions over a larger park experience overall is a case that leads you directly to Chapter 11. With that in mind, we have parks like Movie World who, rather than invest in buzz-words (or buzz-saws, if you catch my drift) invest in fantastic in-park experiences which get better year after year (white christmas, fright night) and are seeing a huge profit that's directly relatable to investing in park experience then just a wad of crappy filler and flat rides. Perhaps to be clear Brad, it's fine if you want Dreamworld to be an amusement park. I'd rather see it return as an awesome theme park. And it's not far fetched or unreasonable in my opinion, as the park was once truly great (until it was owned by a bank.)

Let's go hardcore and make a list. Immediate low-budget maintenance around the park list [*]Install IMAX Digital into the cinema - I HOPE Dreamworld didn't buy their digital projector and can hand it back. Given Dreamworld's screen was the smallest GT screen in the world, it would be perfect for IMAX's current Digital Cinema system. Barco laser system means digital movies en masse at a very cheap cost. [*]Rebeautify Main Entrance - Looks tacky. Make it look more like the 80's version. No textured blank walls. No tacky digital signs. Sand back the six million layers of paint and redo the original layer. [*]Main Street - Sand back all crappy paint layers and bring it back to original Victorian style paint palette. Hide all lights. Hide and enhance speaker system in buildings. Play area-appropriate music. Ensembular pieces not bogan Sea-FM on loop. Remove the boats. Install a multi-turret fountain display that runs all day to bring atmosphere. Add detail to buildings again (flags, Victorian lattices, tiny details like surfboards on balconies etc.) Kill the idea of the Fairytale shop. It's beyond tacky. Dare I say a disgrace to the original building design. [*]Remove RollerCoaster Tycoon food & bev stalls. ALL OF THEM. Sell them to Six Flags. [*]Rebeautify Main Street Train Station. Get the miniature train running again. De-weed the god damn building. [*]Double the amount of park landscapers and double the budget for landscaping and maintenance. Keep lawns mowed, free of fallen branches, keep flowers flowering, and plant way more trees and keep them maintained (unlike Main Street's palm trees, which are out of control.) [*]Revert the Cyclone queue. Fix up TVs. Fix up station's braking and PLC to maximise capacity. Consider a better train assembly/new train. [*]Put the damn pool under Wipeout and put Fluffy back in. Re-plumb the geisers. We're not in a drought anymore. DERP. [*]Fix the mess that is the Giant Drop walkway area. Bring it all to ground level. Sanderson's Group clearly didn't give two shits when building that colossal mess. Clean, obvious pathway intersection. A Major direction hub shouldn't be that bad. [*]Rip down 2/3 of the Tower of Terror tunnel. It's the most god ugly thing they've done yet. And MDMC's pretty bad. Rip it down all the way to before the train station. It breaks the park in half, it's white, ugly, and needs to go to salvage any sense of escapism. [*]Open up the Tiger Island/Tower of Terror area. Too many tiny little paths. Considering Tiger Island/Tower of Terror are some of the park's biggest drawcards (which is funnily depressing considering how old they are and how obvious the park has lagged since the current owners) they should be easily accessible, which they are not. [*]CAPTAIN STURT. My god. Dreamworld, you idiots. Put a new motor in that thing already. Put a classy restaurant upstairs, put the bushranger show back on and reap in the money. How shortsighted. [*]Do something about the crazy list of SBNO rides. Either remove them or be honest about the go-forward plan and committ to a timeframe when it'll happen. You don't need to say "the mine ride is being placed by a Gerstlauer Eurofighter" just say it's definitely not happening, you'll do something by 2015, and it'll be another coaster. Respect your fans. [*]Don't play Village's game. Quit the discount pass game. Make a song and dance about it. The only reason you can't beat Village at their game of discounted paths is because in order to quit the game of discounting you'll need to actually have a better product then the competition, which you don't. [*]While I remember, Street performers. The quartet. The Whiz. The Bushrangers in particular should make appearances throughout the day inbetween shows. Yes you have weird ghost ladies walking around Gold Rush occassionaly. YAWN. Give the people what they want. [*]Clean up Tower of Terror's queue. Make it nice. It's a shitfight in there, and a smelly one at that. People don't break the themeing because people are arseholes, people break your queue line because they're bored of your average operations and you don't build your queue lines to last. Then you put the crappy bits of themeing within an arms reach of your guests. BAD IDEA. [*]Do the same for Giant Drop. Integrate into Gold Rush. [*]Bridge Gold Rush and Rocky Hollow and Giant Drop. Make it a much more integrated area and just call it Gold Rush. You're not fooling anyone with having so many "worlds." Its at best deceptive. [*]Retheme MDMC. The grand prix theme is super tacky. Yes, we get it's not going anywhere, so rather then pretend it doesn't exist, lets do something about it. Let's retheme the bikes to dirt bikes, and you're going through the jungle. BAM. Plant some treets, open the area up, and piss off all those dirty bogan pit areas and stuff. And fix up the whole queue line building. It's straight out awful. It makes me think that you brought someone in who's good at building shopping malls to theme that place. Everything is one-sided and tacky.

Blue Lagoon > WhiteWater World.

I've heard they're pretty great on the whole. Robb Alvey is certainly a love or hate kind of personality, and for me I think he certainly does a lot of really good stuff for the greater theme park community, particularly in terms of the reputation we all have with the parks. There's definitely a few members on here who have been on trips who can share more on the trips themselves. I personally haven't been on one, I did Japan last year and navigated my own course and had immense fun doing it. To be fair, TPR trips might be excellent for USA/Europe but i'm not too sure about Japan. Sure, you'll get all the added fun of a large group of people and a no-fuss itinerary, but perks like ERT are not going to be worth it, particularly when you're travelling in Sep/Oct (like when I did) and most parks are dead anyway. If you're tossing up between going on a TPR trip versus doing it alone, make sure you do your research when it comes to Japan, particularly in terms of getting around. Japan Rail Pass is a must. Also keep an eye out for Jetstar's deals, they run a big deal every few months with excellent pricing from Gold Coast to Tokyo/Osaka which can get as cheap as 600 bucks per person return. Their current deal is business class tickets at standard economy pricing. Go check it out.

Late 1988. I did some epic googling to find it and have since lost the link. You can find it in Google's News Archives.

Thought this was worth digging up the old thread for.

-Bermuda Triangle -Parks without roof systems -Eureka Mountain Mine Ride -Blue Lagoon -Thunderbolt -Model T Fords where they should be. -Gremlins -Young Eisntein's Gravity Walkthrough - Pokemon @ Movie World

I've always thought this too, particularly with raft slides. Surely there'd be a safe buffer area that regardless of weight would be safe thereafter to allow another raft down?

Fair guess given alot of Dreamworld's Q4U rides do this. Ahh, yep, just got my idiocy. /epicfacepalm So there's seperate queues for Fast track? Or do you just barge past everybody in the queue?

Well this is the first time i've heard of Fast Track, how strange there's no mention of it on their website until you hit the ticketing page. So $20 to get on any 5 rides? And how does that work? Do you just walk in through the exit?

Djrappa's on the money there. I'd love to see a compact spinner or a compact eurofighter take that space along with the space that the skylink/rapids water collection area has. I can imagine some of those vertical turns from the spinner going great in around those pathways. And as for the cinema, my suggestion would be for Digital IMAX to make an appearance. Considering that screen is now one of the smallest IMAX GT screens around, it would (at a guess) with minimal modification be upgraded back to IMAX, and by using IDF will mean their overheads for running the cinema will be greatly reduced while offering the park the flexibility to choose from a crapload of films and documentaries.

Now that the Dreamworld IMAX Cinema is even less relevent or interesting then it was before there's not much of an excuse left to close that combo structure and actually do something about it.

I'm super excited for this ride, but is there anyone else out there who's going to miss Bermuda Triangle too? The disappearing UFO and the flooding room were both two pretty awesome spectacles IMO.

Hold on, so there was a loose bolt sitting on a fence, thought the CEO should have been advised, and was surprised that later on it was gone?

This is actually quite a brilliant theme I must say. Worth knocking over a huge fibreglass mountain down and continuing to concentrate your guests into a small area of the park? Probably not. But all dumb management stuff decisions aside this will definitely be the most well decorated Zamperla Air Racer by far, and will continue a lineage of Dreamworks attractions in the park that are actually quite pleasant visually. Sure, not Disney, but definitely above and beyond what Six Flags/Cedar Fair would be doing.

By your logic is Tower of Terror a ride, too? Bruh tell me about it, huh. The internet is a rough place. Good thing there's a place for like minded people in similar predicaments.

Lol dude, some people take this stuff way too seriously. If this is your first time on the internet, welcome. Incase it escaped you, this is a forum about theme parks and having fun. Chillout bruh, k? thx. In other news, yeah the branding Panda-monium is probably the best thing about the ride. And they've been circulating that around for a while now too from memory.

And this is why we can't have nice things.

Get a job. Seriously though, when I was at Disneysea earlier in the year, when it came to food & bev they had the formula right. While charging a higher then normal rate for things like popcorn or dumplings or even soda, the fact that they offered speedy, convenient, clean and most importantly novel and atypical food that's special to the park makes the higher rate very easy to justify. And to be fair, while I strongly disagree with charging extra for drinks in a "meal", Movie World do have their finger on the money in terms of charging customers a premium for a premium experience which is what it's ultimately all about. What I do have a problem is when I walk into 4 different food & bev outlets at another gold coast park, and my offerings are the same fried crap, microwaved pizzas or $10 truck stop salad sandwiches in every one. Here's a quick formula that I think is accurate: Premium Park + Premium Price + Premium/Unique F&B Experience to compensate for Premium Price without raising cost = Epic Profit/CSR

Run, not walk, to X2. And while you're at it, take a crack at their reverse freefall coaster (Superman) and have a lol at Dreamworld at how much better it is when it's run at full speed.

Holy crap batman! Then it must be true.

That's the one. See, I totally get that it's thrilling and that jazz, but we're putting a ride in a kid's area and calling it a thrill ride when there's other rides in the park that are either as thrilling (Rapids Ride) or invert (Reef Diver). What i'm getting at is counting it as a big 8 thrill ride to push your return on investment and stretch your advertising dollar seems to be a very silly thing to do.