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Obviously its not if you need to do that, and even if you do it still bangs its way around the track, which isnt smooth. Lisalisa A bayern curve is just a helix, really ground breaking stuff so yeah where the onride photo is. I agree, saying the trains travel on the outside of the track is a bit misleading, they do travel on the 'outside' when they go around inversions, but you could equaly say that they are on the 'inside' of the track at points where the track curves at a peak (say at the top of the lift). All coasters tend to travel on the outside of the track anyway if you are refering to being outside the tracks centre of gravity , the only ones that tend to be within it are those togo pipeline coasters and i guess bobsleds are within the track too. Why didnt they go for the obvious wording? riders sit in trains that travel 'beneath' the track. But gee, have a look at what they call 'education' sample activites include drawing the layout of sdsc, drawing a map of how you got to mw, reasoning why your heart rate would be higher after riding lw. They had the chance for some really good physics questions, eg what is the average velocity of LW as it completes the circuit, see how many kids stuff that one up

I spotted this on the MW website in the education section and i just had to laugh. Taken from an activty sheet:

That was a long post??? Well, on my visit i dropped into guest relations and filled out a comments form and said that Superman should have item storage that is free for the first hour. I think all of you should do the same. But basically its not fair to charge because you dont have a choice, everthing else at MW you have a choice wether or not you buy/pay for it, but here you are forced into it. Also, i spoke to the "grouper" at the top of the superman and the reason for not having an item pass through was because of congestion at the shop.

When i was there i was amazed at how many there were, like the walls were just crazy with loads of little dots on them. One thing, how does that wierd laser that is like a vortex by the final drop work, it looked very cool, is it just a cone of light projected onto smoke? Its a very good acheivement for a large building like that to have so many going at once and making the space seem so full.

I think seeing more 4Ds built will be very dependent on the sucess of the one going in at Fuji-Q, X was a prototype but now they can start out fresh and get it right the first time, if they do then more may be built due to greater confidence, but if they get it wrong a second time i think we may never see another one for a long time. http://www.rcdb.com/id3254.htm

Many people after riding Superman share the feelings that the coaster itself was great, but the theming was underdone, so it would be interesting to hear peoples ideas on how the rides theming could be improved. Here are some of mine: QUEUE: Put in more things to make it feel more like a subway station, such as: -Signs warning of fines for failing to have a valid ticket -Signs warning of fines for those with loose items (Double usage here as it relates to the rides actual rules) -Timetable information -Ticket Machines -Ticket Valdidation gates (the ones where you put the ticket in on one side and it gets sucked through and spat out on the other side, and at the same time the gate opens) 3 of these could be placed across the 3 queues where the subway theming starts. -Signs telling you what station you are at -WAY OUT signs LOADING STATION -Signs on the wall saying what station you are at -Warning signs about the electrified 3rd rail and to stay off the tracks -Warning signs to stand back behind the yellow line when the train is approaching -Suspended from the ceiling TVs with when the next train is due from that platform and where it is going -Clocks -Signs saying this area is under video surivailence -Lockers that look similar to the ones you see in the dark ride section, but undamaged. DARK RIDE SECTION -Better Wall texture -Make Metropolis square seem more like a station, there is little that makes it seem different from the rest of the ride, on my first couple of ride i didnt even realise it was meant to be a station, it seemed like lockers were just sitting in the tunnel from no reason. Brighter lighting and theming that relates to the original loading station would be nice (Eg the TVs telling you about departues would be there, but would be going all haywire, other signs would be fallen down, scratched etc. The colapising wall section would be painted the same way as the one in the loading station (with chevrons and a MRT logo). -where two cars that have crashed from the road above it should be clearer that this is what has happened, this could be done by having a road sign upside down that has fallen down along with the cars, a trash can etc. Another thing that could be done could be on the actual buildings roof. They could remove the white colourbond and replace it with transparent laserlite directly above the cars. This would flood that specific area with natual light to make it seem like daylight is coming in from the hole in the road. -At the start of the launch the blue streak you see should be clearer, i can only assume its meant to be superman but i am unsure, maybe adjust the focus or something. COASTER SECTION -Put up mini imitation skyscrapers in the fenced off area in the middle of all the turns that is currently just sand. Have a look at Euro Mir ( http://www.rcdb.com/ig972.htm?picture=1 ) or Manhattan Express ( http://www.rcdb.com/ig139.htm?picture=14 ) for examples, but if this was done i think a maximum of 3 would be needed and they would be not too big to make it feel like superman is flying you through the city. -The next best alternative could be to extend the viewing area into here and theme it as "Central Metropolis Park" with a central monument, tree lined paths, benches and lawns. UNLOAD STATION -Get the doors working -More detail to make it seem like Superman has put you somewhere safe (Just a note, in the article on the queue line wall it says that Superman sets the train down in a parking lot, so maybe if the unload station was make to look like a parking complex....) While some of these ideas could be expensive, others could be done cheaply but would make a difference to the overall feel. So what are your ideas? Just one thing to note, the roof probably wont evolve to anything more than a lattice of four by twos in the near future since a soild roof would interfere with the buildings fire system (and it will cost too much to put in a new one lower down) Something they could try in the darkride section could be rusted Reinforcing mesh with chunks of concrete attached to it to make it look like the concrete has fallen off of it. This would still enable the fire sprinklers to work) I think that what has happened though is that the ride was rushed to opening, so they managed to get a nice basis for the theme, but many of the final touches that make it look nice have been missed.

I think part of the reason people want to see an Invert could be because aguably they are B&Ms best product, and this can be seen in the number of good reviews and the number of parks choosing them , and even with unique alternatives such as flyers avaliable more inverts are still sold (In the time between B&Ms 2nd last flyer (Superman: Ultimate Flight) and its newest one (Tatsu) 5 Inverts have been built. and By comparison there have been 3 floorlesses, 1 dive machine and no stand ups all of which are 'unique' products) And all up inverts make up over 40% of their sales, they are just a popular product. That said I would like to see a B&M invert, not to go after WBMWs market, but simply because they are a good ride. My next choice would be a floorless coaster.

Because burgers are more popular?

Yeah, i knew the twister was in the same spot, but i had thought a new twister slide had replaced the one that was there.

I dont think they would be too expensive as many parks have them, and not just the big ones so they probably arent prohibitivley expensive. Also the ride is mainly used by body boarders (surfers must sign a waiver before using it (source: flowrider website)) Im no surfer of body boarder but i would definitley have a dip at it and so would many others because it is safer and more controlled than the ocean amd would enable me to try something i cant normally. Not all waterpark attractions serve a wide market so that is not really a reason not to build it, it is like not putting in a freefall slide because it doesnt appeal to young kids, elderly, those with back problems, pregnancy, vertigo etc. IMO it would be well marketable as it is new to Australia.

I dont see why guests couldnt occupy the other seats since the final two would only be in the front car. Did normal guests ever ride with the comp contestants?

So, a flowrider then, that sounds ok. As for a japanese company making rides, that doenst sound too promising as japanese amusement rides just dont seem to be as good as their counterparts. Then again the slides could be the ones of a major companies asian offices, eg like how NBGS has offices in korea.

I like the idea of a coaster around where model Ts are, TOT has sort of stuffed the serenity and model Ts could easliy be put somewhere else, IMO it should be somewhere near the billabong buffet out in the bush. It would be cool if it had a helix around the tower and some drops near water level. There is a fair bit of space so it could definitley have one.

So does anyone who has frequented the park or been near it in the past few years know if this is the case? Joz, Rich, Rabid im looking your way...

When i rode it, it didnt hurt like it did last time, it was actually pretty good, but the face spraying wasnt.

Well, IMO from my trip up a few week ago, MW was definitley the superior park, and despite having a 2 day pass at DW i opted to only spend 2 hrs on the second day, and go back to MW for the rest. MW was just that much better in ride quality, efficency, park condtion, food quality and service. Also, if MW wanted to become a thrill park they could do it easily, for less than the cost of SM they could pick up a thrill ride or 3 and plonk it in the park, but would we nessessarily want that? MW is more about quality rather than quantity and by putting in flats they would be diluting the brand. Geeze, i wonder if a DL opened up on the GC people would still think MW was better because of DLs lack of thrill rides?

I reckon a B&M would be nice but i dont know if it will happen or not, but IMO im more interested in what MW does since in recent years they have been turning out the better product. But yeah, a new coaster is sort of a necessity since they really are lagging behind not just the GC parks, but many similar sized international parks. In additon to a new coaster the park should look at a decent sized general ride, not a kids ride but one which appeals to a wide audience and could be equally enjoyed by both thrill seekers and the less daring.

I think its pretty obvious its a joke post. Lock Please

Ho could it be the second if Adventure World in perth is the second park managed by Maquarie? And Since when does southport have enough vacant land avaliable for a theme park. Man, if Slick were here right now..........

One idea they could try on some of the slides is a turnstile system to space out riders. Normally they have red and green lights and an Op that supervises over to stop people from breaking the rules (eg forming chains). What they could have is an electronic turnstile programmed to only unlock every 30 seconds or so (whatever the safe spacing is for that paticular slide) with a small green and red light on top, the turnstile would stay locked, but at the programmed interval it would unlock and one person could pass through, it would then re lock again for the programmed interval and so on. This would mean there is a physical barrier and would mean only one person could get through at a time which would be safer and would stop chains from forming. It could also mean timings could be adjusted for different times of the day (Eg a longer spacing at night time). It would also free up staff to work on other rides where more staff are needed.

The problem with that is the park could suffer image problems if it had that name. IMO the park should be named something emotive and not just a standard combonation of water related prefix with a place related suffix, eg not Splash City or Water World or Aqua Park etc. It should be a completley new name.

I dont think anyone here will vote for WO to go, it is one of the most loved rides in the park.

Was that the tall bloke with the fo-hawk?

When i was at WnW recently i noticed that the Twister seemed a bit different from how i remembered it, it seemed to have less twists than what i could remember, and the slides are now translucent green and blue, when they used to be pitch black inside (I ruled out the slides being re painted since you cant make something opaque translucent by just painting it), which raised the question, has the slide ever been replaced with same thing, just modified? Another thing that led me to think this was the fact the supports for the slide look modified. They are T shaped with an extra steel tube at the top of the T that connects to each slide, but the connecting tube was angled to connect to the slide rather than just being vertical, it looked as though the T supports had supported the original slide, but since then a newer slide had been installed that didnt line up with the original supports, so extra steel tubes were welded on so the original supports could still be used. So was the slide ever replaced or am i just crazy?

Funny you should mention rubarok, it is what they have used in bucaneer bay to cover the ground, and yes it is cooler. One idea i have thought would be cool to have would be to have the queue line for slides in what is basically a wading pool, so you would just stand in 30 cm deep water with sprayers above.