DaptoFunlandGuy

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There is a growing trend of people who are against animals in captivity of any kind. But all animals rights issues aside, building a brand new exhibit for animals you literally just referred to as "least cared for" isn't the direction I want sea world to go. It's not going to drive gate, it's not going to increase profits, it's only going to cost money, and it isn't needed. Also, The castle was not originally a theatre. The facade was built with VR but was originally open air inside the castle walls. (Bonus Fun Fact - it also used to have waterslides coming off the rear of it where the penguin habitat is now) something something tenuous movie tie-in something what's rio bravo something splash.

These days you'd be better off snapping a photo and using Google Lens than trying to identify a single reference photo of a fish that may or may not match the one you're seeing in the tank due to differences in markings and whatever. I'd bet google was far more accurate and faster. Yeah - that's a dirty word these days - "captivity" and many of the marine parks are tending to shy away from introducing MORE animals into their parks. Land animals can at least have a bit more of a 'natural' habitat - but even the amazing lagoons we have for Dolphins really doesn't cut it compared to the open ocean, and there is more push not to keep animals in tanks... big or small. Additionally, I don't really want Sea World to be investing in 'paintings in a hallway' and especially not in the prime real estate occupied by the castle. The park needs attraction space first and foremost if it is to survive beyond the life of it's current captive attractions. Also, while the dreamworld example isn't that far off, they're still land animals, and have a slightly different exposure from animal rights groups. All your other examples are actual zoos, not sea-themed amusement parks with rides. (*Caveat here - I know Sea World is a member of the Zoos and Aquariums association etc etc, I'm just inferring the difference between this and say Taronga or an Aquarium where the animals are the primary and only experiences.) Exactly this. I want Sea World to remember it's roots, but it can't hold onto the 'tank life' and must adapt into the future.

A parade involves contra-flow with wide vehicles that can barely pass each other. When a single vehicle tours main street (such as when the Mystery Machine does the rounds) a single member of Mystery Inc walks in front of the vehicle to ensure safety. This is no different. I'm not sure Village would do it either, but the idea was put forward, and it was shot down based on the supposed work involved to bring it online. I simply responded to show that an (albeit simple) version of the idea could be put into practice with VERY LITTLE effort - the assets are already in place, there are cast members already trained in how to operate the vehicle. They would need procedures for guest loading and operations, and as a passenger vehicle there may be some regulatory requirements, but my point is the vast majority of the pieces are already in place, if they had chosen to do something like that. A decision to charge for a 'main street vehicle' would almost guarantee the concept would die from lack of use. I'd like to see SW have a transport option as the park is a long boi, but a road tram style option isn't viable as there is nowhere to turn around currently - hence why the monorail and train were always great options (as was the skyway). I'm not sure DW could do it - main street is accomodating enough, but the bottleneck around claw, and lack of turnaround space near Gold Coaster would kill it. They at least have a train to fill the 'transport ride' hole in their lineup. To hell with capacity, The main street vehicles are more about kinetics than 'how many guests it can take'. Stops along main street wouldn't ruin Main Street. A stop outside Batwing, Another near sweet treats, a third near West Burgers, a fourth near Rick's - all places where the pathways widen or there is a secondary path around the obstacle. Disneyland has track-bound vehicles like the horse drawn trolley, but also freely-driven vehicles such as the fire truck and the omnibus (or by your apparent standards, the Anaheim Metro). These vehicles literally run from the front of main street to the Castle and back. Some vehicles don't require a walking escort, and some do (and some require it only when it gets busier, but when the park is slammed, many of the vehicles are taken off main street to reduce the obstructions to foot traffic). I don't buy your arguments for why it shouldn't be possible to do it. As I said above though, I'm not sure this is something village would actually implement - but the idea was put out there. Reasons were put forward why it couldn't be possible, i'm just countering those reasons to show not only that it is possible, but that it's been done elsewhere. Like Magician, my immediate reactoin was to bring up Shark Bay - especially the 'reef' side - as a counter to this argument, but when I think to other aquariums i've visited - such as Sentosa SEA, Ocean Park's Grand Aquarium, Osaka Aquarium - They've had smaller tanks with different species that can't really exist in the reef. There are plenty of places in the park where smaller tanks could be implemented - including the above ground areas at Shark Bay and Penguin Encounter's lower corridors. There's a lot of work in maintaining them and BOH equipment to look after also. But that's a fully-fledged aquarium. There aren't a great many "small tank" aquarium spaces in places like Sea World San Diego either - large tanks for dolphins, whales, smaller ones for Seals and SeaLions, but not really many for smaller exhibits, if any, that I can recall. I'm not sure this is where I want Sea World to put their efforts into the future.

I think you're overthinking it. DCA runs the red car trolley through California Adventure park, and while they have at least two, i've seen them run only one on some busy days. Capacity isn't a huge concern as it is self-controlling - if people queue up at a trolley stop and it's full or there's already too many people waiting, they continue on to the next attraction. If its empty, or its a quieter day, its a great opportunity to tour the park from a different vantage point and rest those weary legs. The park is already set up with a parade route with vehicle clearances, and they've brought vehicles in from both Western and Tunes ends for shows and the like. You'd have to check clearances but I reckon you could run this circuit pretty easily with a trolley vehicle or similar. (The WB Kids tree is my main concern, but you could easily just circle the grass at Ricks to have a "WB Kids" stop if you really wanted to) And the best part is - they've already got the vehicle! (Though I would like to see them add a few other "main street vehicles" for this purpose.)

this seems to make sense in theory, but i've always found that the big thrill rides aren't as popular at WC because the event is mostly frequented by younger families. Scooby always gets slammed because of the target demographic but the DC corner isn't as busy as it is during FN, IMO.

This post is about a B&M Flyer, not a waveswinger.

I already explained my view on Incredicoaster so i'm not going to repeat myself for the sake of pedantry. Of course Tron's train doesn't accommodate loose items at all.

I mean, WWW was built out of a lot of carpark - it wouldn't be too difficult to expand into the bottom end of the carpark next to Hydrocoaster if they really wanted to, but I do agree with your sentiments - the Thunderbolt land should be reserved for WWW.

Curious timing - DW posted pictures of crates that had landed at the park, and suddenly MW is posting pictures of crates that are in-transit...

...that doesn't go over top of guests.

I think the main callout from those though is that Tron and Superman both go over guests, whereas for the most part, none of the others do, so if loose articles fall out, they aren't at risk of hitting anyone. (Incredicoaster is perhaps the only exception to the rule, though all of the high force sections are sectioned away from guests, so i'm not sure that it disproves the point)

You're not wrong, but they can't afford that right now. They're still building the dry park up, and winter operations at the water park should definitely NOT be the priority "now". But provided their trajectory continues upward, I could see them refocussing within the next 5 years to start building it up and expanding it prior to the Olympics. But the dry park isn't ready and isn't producing sufficient revenue to eat the off-season losses at an open waterpark when it's approaching zero degrees outside.

I get the feeling Sea World has more to come. Like MW they've gotten a bit of a reputation about having things closed, so expanding their lineup can't hurt. I kinda see WWW as less of a critical factor for several reasons - not least of which is it's seasonal operation. As long as they continue to operate it for only part of the year, I don't think WWW is the priority. Also, because it is co-located, it's more open for park hopping during the day, whereas a WnW day tends to be a full day for most guests, because a park hop typically requires bundling into the car to relocate closer to the other park. For all those reasons, WWW is not really in the same (forgotten) position as WnW - WnW really needs to be able to hold its own as a full day park, whereas WWW has for several years now been regarded as a part-day add-on, and only for part of the year. Look, Gerstlauer's foray into Australia with Abyss was Abyss-mal. That rollercoaster should be condemned. I'd love to see a HangTime clone over here as it is hands down my son's favourite rollercoaster, and the one by which all others are compared. It's a lot of fun, plenty of inversions and thrills, with a lower height requirement than some of the other big boys. I'd mention the awesome lighting package it has, but sadly we'd never see it with our 5pm closure times. As long as they've ironed out whatever issues they had with Abyss and the Australian Weather conditions, it's a plus one from me. I'm not an engineer so i'm not about to say they could replace the hydraulics with LSMs without some sort of swing being necessary without seeing some real data on it. What I will say as a layperson is that the full length of the superman launch is approximately 40 metres long, to crest a 40 metre tophat with a max speed of approximately 100km/h. Meanwhile Steel Taipan uses a magnetic launch system approximately 75 metres long (which it hits three times in a swing launch). And the max height for steel taipan is the same 40 metre height, with a comparable max speed of 105km/h. Intamin might have some shit-hot gear over what Zamperla is using, but is it really (napkin math) 6 times better than Mack Rides systems too? it's ok, they'll just relocate it to Sea World in 2027, due to open in 2032!

I don't think you've got the launch length for LSMs to work, and a swing launch wouldn't work with the current storyline, unless it's "Superman: Escape from the old folk's home"

You'd be surprised what they can fit into tight spaces when they try...

WetNWild is the poor cousin that everyone forgets about. I think the pre-covid pattern of a park having 'their turn' is probably a little bit outdated, and there is more for the parks to do than just open blockbuster attractions each year. We've also seen Village group projects run simultaneously across several properties, and also several projects at the same property. Likewise Dreamworld needs to keep up momentum and going a year or two without 'something' will see them fade quickly. I personally think we'll see the parks capitalise on the success of their big attraction releases this (or early next) year by introducing some new entertainment offerings, and perhaps filling some of the smaller gaps in their lineups by opening smaller or lower cost attractions for kids or the family market - as I feel they've both got a lot of thrills already taken care of.

BB Studios was demolished at the time they were building the ampitheater and proposing a lazy river with crocodiles in it. I don't think logic really comes into that era of the park.

Raging Spirits at TDS has an inversion and all loose articles are carried on board (yes, not Australia, I know). I don't think it's as simple as "inversions = strict" and lots of factors come into play - how exposed the ride vehicle is, whether there are negative forces that could eject articles, as opposed to positive forces that will keep them precisely where they are, and also how open to bystanders the ride envelope is. CorkScrew comes to mind - inversions over the top of guests, and although they did have storage boxes there was no strict 'no items' policy that these days would likely see phones carried on board... (though if it were operating post-2016, we'd probably see nets installed under the corkscrew and metal detectors in the queue, so who knows?)

sensible outcome.

The Madagascar plot is potentially the largest land in the park. Crate adventure certainly occupied a LOT of space back there. Excuse the poor paint efforts here, but here's what they're working with. There's plenty of space for this (though noting they've apparently only built one simulator room for Mayhem instead of two, so that saves them a fair bit of space, though it will kill capacity a bit...

I think the point is, their previous price point was stupidly overpriced, and resulted in the seats dispatching empty a majority of the time. I'm happy to see it approaching a level that most find acceptable either as a 'once per visit' or even more, simply to keep the seats full. In fact, i'd be happy if there were a 2-3 cycle wait for these seats as opposed to them generally being a walk-on.

I'm hearing that Leviathan and DC Rivals have both had a recent price drop on their rear row - Rivals is now $20 for backwards (fasttrack for forwards is $25). not sure how much Levi is but hearing similar adjustments over at SW have been made.

Yeah look, that would be a fair interpretation, if it wasn't for the fact that that also isn't a 'never been done before' thing either. Land of Oz (theme park) - Wikipedia I've been saying this since the Flash BTS content started to release. I think their media team have really lifted their game to new heights (or gotten fresh blood?) and i'm super keen to see Village continue to push out their great insights into new constructions and other activities going on behind the scenes. But that doesn't mean i'm not going to call out bullshit from the C-suite.

The thread was specifically started based off of the "main arena" (that being the one at the end of main street, which the context of the online discussion had clearly outlined, which is why the options were limited to only the occupants of that arena), but by all means, feel free to create your own thread on the Show stage and it's former incarnations (i'd be voting for Maverick, but thats just me)