DaptoFunlandGuy

I'd say, if you want to take that argument: If closure was simply, purely, and ONLY because it was cheaper to do so - then in a financial climate that isn't very healthy, i'd say (in MY mind) that it is quite an apt decision by management, rather than being poor. Sure, from an operational standpoint it may appear poor - large crowds, busy periods, and closed rides doesn't seem like a sound decision. But what if the costs associated with maintaining it at a level required by law meant that they exhausted their available funding, and could only staff rides, shows and outlets for 2 hours a day? or only 3 days a week? That wouldn't be a very good management decision - they would lose revenue - digging the hole deeper. You must remember that VRTP didn't just up and decide one day to close all three. Sure - they did close within a short (18 month) timeframe - but could they help it? I'm not trying to 'dress anything up' - i'm just hypothesizing other 'just as likely' scenarios to those who would condemn the parks administrators. As I said - BT and LTRR are similar ride systems, with similar effect systems, of a similar age. Surely it isn't outside the realm of possibility that they both had similar catastrophic failures within an 18 month period rendering both attractions beyond repair? And whilst BA-TR is an entirely different ride\show system, it is also of similar age - and has seen many years of service - is it possible that faults were also discovered with the attraction that was beyond economical repair? 'In similar timeframes' should also be considered as 'completely outside of their control' (I don't have proof to back this up, but surely if it were within their control to keep it open, thereby alleviating complaints to guest services, as well as crowds and queues in busy periods, don't you think that they would have?) Throw back to Corkscrew - a safety fault was discovered during checks on the attraction after an incident which I shall not disclose here. Further investigations revealed major structural integrity issues which required immediate repair. Now without going into the finer details of what was \ could be wrong, and what was needed to repair \ fix \ replace the issue, the attraction was closed, with little notice, for a long period of time. At the end of this long period, the attraction reopened, and was subsequently rethemed. I guess what i'm trying to say is - don't condemn the management for your perception of what they are doing. Until you know the facts behind the decisions, you need to trust that management are doing the best job that they can to continue to deliver their product without compromising the integrity of the brand, and it's assets.

The ride systems of Bermuda and LTRR are relatively the same, and are relatively the same age. For them to both experience similar issues within 18 months isn't entirely unheard of. The effects in ALL THREE of those attractions were at best, ready for the garbage pile and at worst beyond salvage. Or maybe - they just decided that rather than pay the memory of the ride a disservice by showing it off at it's worst, they decided it was time to close the ride.

I wouldn't say superman is being forgotten - one only has to look at it's queue's to realise this. For a lot of the public - at this point, Green Lantern is the best - and mainly because it's the new kid on the block. I draw the analogy of the family with a dog, that buys a new puppy... For some, the novelty will wear off, and they will still decide SE is their favourite. My partner has now ridden almost everything at every park, and her favourite is sea viper (I don't know why). At the end of the day - as you say - it's all subject to opinion - so for the same reason that you still think superman is great and fantastic and better than a 'fancy' el loco, so to do others think that SE is just another 'fancy' accelerator, and that GL is the best thing since wonderbread.

^ in relation to TRR, possibly just a very slow load for the group. Possibly a mobility impaired person, or an upset child. Could be any number of reasons, but thats why there is a really long calm channel before the lift.

I think it's a bit unfair to lump GL into a 'cloned' El Loco category, and then class Superman Escape as a one-of-a-kind accelerator. Does Superman have unique elements? Of course it does - the dark ride section was commented on by the TPR crew on their recent visit. But - from launch to brake run, is it that different, other than the specific layout of this one? In the same vein - Green Lantern also has unique elements - 4 across seating, on board audio and pulsing LED lights, an apparently 'steeper' first drop, and a reduction on trimming compared to previous el locos. I'm not 100% and i'm at work so can't do too much in the way of fact-checking, but aren't the restraints a little different to previous models also? You also need to consider the 'old vs. new' argument. Look at GL - all bright green, and glossy black, shiny in the sunlight... and compare to superman - a rather tired drab and faded red track... Superman is old news - Green Lantern is something new, and different. From the general public's point of view: * 4 across seating that isn't mounted directly over the track * nothing over the shoulder to keep you in - oh my god, i'm going to fall out! * on board audio (if you can hear it) * a 'drop' steeper than 90 degrees... not an inversion - but a drop... * cars that light up, whilst ON TRACK! These are all unique, australian first points about an el loco - that whilst the rest of the world might consider it to be a few small minor changes to an already plentiful coaster type, the majority of the domestic market are going 'WOW - SOMETHING NEW that we've NEVER SEEN BEFORE! *Disclaimer - i've written most of this from memory. I can't say all the facts are correct. I don't really have time to research and fact check at work, so if i'm wrong, apologies, but to the best of my knowledge - all of the above is true.

Actually - when we went last weekend, the gates opened at 9am - to everyone. Gold VIP's get onto the 'early open' ride at 9:15am, and the rest of the public at 9:30... We got 4 rides in on GL in that 15 minutes, and only got off the train once. The early entry ride is for everyone from 9:30, and i can see sense (especially in the summer holidays) of opening the main gates at 9am - if everything opens at 10 - including the front gate - then WWF, RRRC, and even scooby won't see people for at least 10 minutes as people sort out lockers etc. At least this way, your staff are being paid to work, not wait.

Seriously - Ipecac Syrup? A poison.... that makes you vomit? And... in a 6 year old thread.... geezus - at least post in something more regularly used!

I thought you were leaving?

Mac - agree with your sentiments on RRRC. Theres nothing wrong with it. I think you'll find if you get around some of the other threads, that the bigger issue here isn't the spelling, grammar and punctuation, but moreso the pointless threads started over trivial matters that go nowhere. Joz wrote it best above, and before you critique the 'hijacking' of the thread, re-read Joz's post... and again - before you consider this thread 'hijacked' - consider how much discussion it has generated outside the 'punctuation police' in relation to the topic matter (that isn't in itself repetitive in terms of "it's fine" "there are bigger fish to fry" etc... (which is essentially the entire content of your own post as well).

Disagree with you there Gazza. Admittedly, the tick-tock outside the attraction does get on your nerves (although I asked a cast member at one point who said after an hour or so you just don't hear it anymore), and the song inside the attraction is very much "the song that never ends", but it was an attraction built under Walt, with all the small touches sometimes overlooked by modern themed attractions, and for me, annoying as it may be, It is still an attraction I 'love'.

i'd have the same loop, but have a beam across a doorway or section of the path that triggers playback as the beam is broken, but restrict the loop from replaying within a certain timeframe - this way - if noone walks through the queue (such as that with the 'give in to your fear' loop), it wouldn't play. To be honest, if this playback was set to such a trigger - in that it didn't just continuously replay over and over - it might actually scare some people when it does trigger just as they walk by.

A looping audio track in the queue is fine - take lethal weapon as a prime example - it just needs more variety, and to last longer.

Maybe thats why there's a DW and a DVV?

I mean seriously, when I first joined the boards, i'd swear that Flea was about 12... and his posts and language (and intelligent conversation) were better than some of the adult members on the boards... in 7 odd years, how poorly has our education system become that we get THIS? (Yes, I know - Facebook, Wikipedia and Google are the answer)

You realise you don't need to just keep starting threads. If people aren't replying, it just means that it isn't a topic that incites a lot of discussion. Rather than creating a thread about every little theme-park related thing that you can, what about trying to think of something REALLY interesting and worthwhile to talk about - something that a lot of people will WANT to discuss (that hasn't already been thought of) and start that? Alternatively, rather than trying to start all these discussions of your own, what about joining in on existing (AND ACTIVE) discussions about things that others are already talking about? Once you've been on these boards for a bit longer, you'll get an idea of what people will, and won't, discuss for great lengths of time. As a guide - the best (and longest) discussions on these boards are usually about one of three things: 1) New Attractions coming soon \ being built \ opening. 2) Old Attractions being refurbed \ closing down \ being removed. 3) Pointless or trivial arguments that get personal.

Well that was certainly worth the bump.

how well DreamWorld blends into DreamWorld???

I'm just on 6 foot tall - and my head rests below the speakers. i haven't heard it once (although 3 of my rides were on the same car) so either i'm not getting the ones that work, or the 3 inches that i am below the speakers is enough to not hear it. If that be the case - very poor design work IMHO. A great addition and great effect wasted. Can't turn the volume up? that's as loud as it goes? have these guys ever ridden ROTM? Space Mountain? come on - it isn't hard to have a bit more volume...

well put it this way - theres no point building greenspace - because it will die... or be inhabited by campers it's f**king hot what else are they gunna spend money on? Either way - they aren't building bowls and tornados - they're building body slides and aqua racers - something we've had for years. A cheap, free, public access point to cool off in a damn hot location... i'm not against it.

That is a matter of opinion... and we've all discussed opinions, right?

Thats great but how do you interperate? Sorry Reanimated - had to do it.

I'll post once i've interpreted the topic - but any chance someone can adjust the thread title?

Girls could wear bikini bottoms, with the rashie tucked in. Red and Black\Grey, with VICI branding on the front and back. I did see one guy being given a pair of shorts (wouldn't call them boardies) just an old faded pair of red nylon 'lifeguard' shorts. It seemed that his shorts weren't tie-up string or elastic (just hanging loose) and halfway down his groin with about 3 inches of underwear showing above... I guess the worry that they're that loose that he'll lose them on the way down? My initial thoughts when I saw the rashies (i only saw girls getting them at first) was a 'flash-preventer' - i've seen many a female rider land in the splashdown and quickly roll over to cover their chest. As for washing them - i'm sure theres a rather large wardrobe department within WVTP, but whilst many would whinge - a good soaking in chlorinated water should be fine...

Gazza if you're trying to say BB is art, you're getting slapped...

Quick - somebody throw a bucket of water of him... then a back of stunt-feathers... I can't edit here - but that should have said 'bag' of stunt feathers.