DaptoFunlandGuy

For those of us unable to (or too lazy to), would you care to give us the two sentence version on what the problem is?

Sorry I don't call that 'testing has begun'... The gondola boat is still on its shipping blocks, and wrapped in plastic. The fact that there is a mannequin in one of the seats means nothing. If they're implying this is a simulaid - such as a water dummy - then they would need more than one dummy... more like 4 or 6....

Well apart from their anticipated relationship with SLSA who I believe were originally planning to provide the lifeguards for the park, the only major 'red and yellow' I see here is on the constrictor - and aren't all the constrictors red and yellow?

looking at the artwork - the 'inner' lagoon is protected from flooding, and the outer ring looks like it has a tidal wall surrounding it. If it flooded regularly, they'd work out to get their customers across the waters by boat or helicopter... or even a chairlift style... As for the waterpark - I think it needs to be either closer.. or they'll need a good transport system nearby.

It's dreamworld. I'd love for it to be a first class attraction but unfortunately they've shown us they aren't interested in bringing in world class attractions anymore - all they want is the minimum expenditure to be able to trumpet a 'new' attraction each year. This is like repainting Cyclone bright orange and changing the trains.... Different look, mostly the same ride. Like Sea Viper - it is remarkably the same, with a different look... however - when Sea World rebranded Corkscrew - it wasn't their only attraction for the year.

on the note that we'd see paid parking at the GC parks... I think it'd be kinda hard to introduce it now... but if they're going to do it anywhere - it needs to be WnW.

I presume that your 'meaning' of 'breakdown' is that it closes early to permit tech crew time to get the maze in the scooby queue up and running... Is there any reason why they can't just put a sign out the front of the ride announcing that the ride will close early? I'm all for rides being available from open to close - don't get me wrong - i think the weird hours dreamworld is running are ridiculous - but on my recent trip to Disneyland, the entire fantasyland area was closed at 4pm for a private function (wedding). Posting signage at the entrance to the land was plainly and clearly visible, and that helped us ensure we got through the area before closure. A little honesty from the park would be nice... (if that is in fact the reason for the 'break down'...) I'd hate to have a one-day visit to a park that intentionally closed a ride early without providing advance notice that it would occur. (*This is all based on the presumption that your intent by placing the word breakdown in 'quotes' implied that it wasn't 'actually' a breakdown, especially since it had an approximate occurrence time of 4pm... however unlikely, if my presumption is wrong then I withdraw my comments on the matter.)

If revolution can survive 37 years (in two days time), then surely we'll see Sea Viper around a bit longer, considering it's only 21... Revolution has had 3 different 'launches'... and Viper is only in it's second incarnation... Having said that, viper is in a slightly more corrosive location and as the tallest structure on the spit for a while it also made it quite a target for bad weather as well.... I sincerely doubt they will dismantle and sell it - they'll keep it running - on life support if necessary, until it is no longer salvageable - at which time it'll be scrapped.

Ok so I finally get around to posting a few of my thoughts. As far as the testing day went - organisation was a little lacking. The staff walked us through the gates but there wasn't a headcount or wristband or sticker to identify us to the gate staff - other people could have tagged onto us and separated once inside the park. We also headed into the training room next to scooby by walking down main street before they dropped the rope. It caused a bit of consternation because all the guests waiting for the rope to drop rushed the barrier when they saw we were being let in. I think it would have been easier to lead us down chinatown alley and in the fire escape that way. Other than that, the day was well thought out, and the staff running it had a lot of enthusiasm about the product. Most of you have seen the App by now, and by most accounts you'd share the same opinions as me - I thought it was a good little app, well put together, with plenty of potential to grow. The overwhelming majority felt that the best feature of the app in it's current form was the show-times guide, and the most needed feature was ride wait times. One thing I was surprised about is that the staff pitching this app weren't aware of existing theme park apps like Mouse Wait. I know it's in a different league, but I guess the point is when you look at MouseWait, the first and most prominent feature of the app is the ride wait times. The VIP pass integration into the app was a good one, as was the 'ride count' functionality. All in all there wasn't really anything I could say I 'didn't' like about the app, and plenty of things I did. I can see a lot of room for growth. Some of the features they talked about developing for future versions included: [*]Ride wait times (of course) [*]integration with google maps, so you can get directions through the parks pinpoint your current location etc. There were several other suggestions put forward as well - including a 'day planner' where you can select the shows character appearances you wanted to get to, and the app would plot the day around what you wanted to see. Another suggestion that went along with that were push notifications to remind you when your next show was starting etc. I have to say the guys at MW were really great, lunch was provided at Rick's and for what was really about 90 minutes of our time, it was well worth the trip down for the day. (And I finally, for the first time, got audio on Arkham, AND Green Lantern.) If you haven't downloaded it yet - grab it now and give it a try on your next trip. Input your VIP pass info if you have one to unlock additional functionality, and yes it is available on Android, but from what I picked up on tuesday - the Android version is still a little buggy - with an occasional crash when certain features are used.

But if you're going to take concessions into account - doesn't Dreamworld offer a concession priced world pass? At $45 per park, of course it works out cheaper when you're not doing the waterparks. The OP WAS talking about waterparks, and the moment you factor them in, the VIP or World pass becomes a better value - which also happens to allow more than one day's visit. It only isn't good value for you because if you bought a VIP pass you wouldn't use 1/3 of it. In my opinion - if you're going to travel from interstate to visit the parks, an 'extra' day is needed. If I remember the old 3 Park Super Pass, you got to visit all 3 VRTP parks, and then pick one park to come back and do again.... 4 days at three parks... and it was good to go back and do things you missed. In answer to the original question - I would say do MW, SW & WnW, with a VIP, but Joz is right - the most thrilling ride is in Dreamworld, but the better balanced mix is really your VIP. If you have more than a week,

unless they slip up and upload the beta site early, before quickly pulling it after the horse had bolted.

Since there is a high percentage of asian visitors to our theme parks, does that mean that 'white australians' who visit the theme parks are required to observe and follow asian religious custom too? I've tried to be polite about this. In recent times i've been a little harsh to some people here and i'm trying to be mindful of the harshness of some of my responses, but Cruiseshipfan - since you see fit to twist my words any way you want - i feel compelled to make a statement that you won't be able to twist no matter what... You are a rascist, a bigot, and an uneducated sloth. You are at least 30 years behind the times, and you support the NIMBY culture that forces immigrants to segregate rather than assimilate. From memory, I think you were late teens early 20s. This means that the period where you claim you were forced to undergo islamic schooling would be in the 90's-00's. At a time where Islam wasn't the most favoured culture in the world, I simply can't accept that you went to a publicly funded, non-islamic school that forced you to adopt the religious traditions and observances against your own free will, especially not without Today Tonight or A Current Affair doing an expose on such an occurrence. TO everyone else - unfortunately a bigoted mind such as his is not one you can convince or change - especially with just words on a screen. The best advice I can give is to place this member on ignore, as I intend to do. That is the best message you can send.

It wasn't an 'expansion' of movie world though..., I don't believe the plan was for it to have a 'gate' at all - just an additional attraction built on the other side of the carpark, which from memory was very much a 'pay per play' type deal...

I know someone's going to have a lot more to say on the subject - but in short, it wasn't an expansion of the current park, that wasn't the original plan, and it wasn't going where the parking lot IS, it was going on the OTHER SIDE of it.

Not to mention - most people when they fly overseas find their roaming rates far too high, and some just buy a pre-paid sim with data access, and put it into their existing smartphone... so wheres the issue?

I think that would have to be one of the most intelligent, thoughtful and realistic responses you've ever made RWC.

I can't see the parks offering free wifi anytime soon. If the App proves profitable enough from upsells and special offer sales they might offer it to encourage people to use the app, but at present - with internet kiosks in MW, not to mention the expense of establishing a park-wide coverage for a product you aren't going to make money on, I can't see that it's going to happen. I'm user testing next week so i'll post my opinion review after that.

If only domestic travel weren't so expensive - for the cost of a trip to perth, it'd be a negligible difference to head to HK or Singapore for a Universal or Disney experience that would be worth far more than a single Euro. If this pays off for them, hopefully they'll see the merit in large-scale investments and we'll have a competition between the parks on our hands like we used to in the days before DW gave up. I'm tempted, but I still see more bang for my buck in SE Asia.

I don't read that much into it - I don't see anywhere where it says that 'talks were held' What I get from that is: [*]the mayor thinks a theme park is an attractive prospect [*]there is no project in the works at this stage [*]they'd be happy to receive a proposal from a potential investor - or go out and seek one [*]the mayor thinks VRTP would be a potential investor, having operated several similar attractions elsewhere, and that they were previously interested in werribee. Nowhere in there can I see that VRTP have 'had talks' - this is just a local government politician saying 'we'd like a theme park, and since those guys wanted to build something nearby that didn't work out, they'd probably want to get in on this too'

And here you are yet again reading into something what you want to hear, and then arguing it as fact. Not to mention - your story keeps changing... So it's definitely open by Jan 9th.... but hopefully before Christmas. Then YOU got the 'impression' that it'll be open before 2014, and 'you guess' that was their point.... Then you THINK they'll push for a November opening. You said that the information you had was 'definitely by January 9th, and 'hopefully' by Christmas... then all of a sudden - you're throwing November into the mix? What the? Now... Here's the thing - if it's teased as 'Summer' it won't be November... since that is 'Spring'... But still... it's a 'teaser' for December. Although not as complex, a well known documentary following the construction of Tatsu saw the original opening date (late spring) pushed back and back and back, and from memory - it didn't open until the middle of summer. Just because it's 'teased' to open in a certain season - if you're going to call December "summer 2013" then 'technically' January and February 2014 would be part of 'Summer 2013' as January February are part of the same season as December.

Based on what you have stated, i'd guess their point was "we're aiming for christmas, but can't guarantee it as there are too many unknowns and variables" rather than "it'll definitely be open before 2014" which is what you've tried to imply. Personally, I hope severe weather prevents it from opening until the Australia Day long weekend.

I think the issue here is that while the restraint was in the 'locked' position, it is a 'lap' bar, and judging by the photos released, I don't think the bar would have been in her lap, rather it would have been on her larger than normal abdomen (stomach). The abdomen is very fluid - able to sag to a persons knees whilst 'waddling' it takes a completely different shape (to a point it can choke them) when they are lying on their back. The point is if the restraint was locked down over her abdomen - she is quite capable of being ejected from the giant without the restraint unlocking AT ALL. When a person is ejected from a coaster, most people jump to the very natural assumption that the restraint must have failed. In this case I am predicting (with no first hand knowledge and just my own experience reading about previous accidents) that the harness did not fail, that it was functioning correctly, and the person was ejected because of incorrect loading procedures by the loading staff. I also forsee that the adjustments recommended to the ride by the investigation will be supplementary seat belts to the lap bars, which really wouldn't have made a difference here anyway.

I don't think I can agree to that. The Werribee Safari World, and WnWS proposals are both completely unrelated. VRTP saw an opportunity at Werribee and they made an offer... they were rebuffed, so they nixed the idea. They didn't immediately launch into a proposal at Sydney (which was land they already owned) for a completely different park concept (wet vs. animals). WnWS has been in planning a lot longer than the ground has been broken - i'm talking years. I remember when I first saw the initial plans would have been at least 3 or more years ago... and being totally unrelated to the project - seeing the plans as an outsider means they'd been in development for a lot longer than that. They recently opened WnW Las Vegas - are you going to tell me that they built WnWLV after the Victorian Government rebuffed their safari world idea? I don't think so... the two are unrelated - so stop pushing it. It's simple - The victorian government don't give a rats about theme park entertainment - except for whats already there that they have no choice in due to heritage listing. QLD and NSW recognise the value of these big operators - and welcome them with open arms. VIC will get a theme park when the victorians stop whinging that they haven't got one. You've got lots of things to claim as unique - mainly sports - so your government obviously believes sport is where it's worth the investment and simple as that. Stop lobbying the operators and start lobbying the politicians.

"i'll take one of everything"

There are too many bigoted, shortsighted, uneducated people around these days.