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Yup, so you're saying not worth the investment? It can't be all about coasters and thrill rided surely?

I would love to see something like this in either MW/DW in the western/mining themed areas. I reckon around 10-15 mil could build a really good immersive haunted style dark ride that could be rich in theme and ideal for a broad demographic. Without offering physical thrills, such an attraction could terrify it's audience by using a suite of sound, lighting and visual gags to really involve and 'isolate' riders. Naturally, MW would do it better but DW COULD do it better and possibly NEED it more..But would they? Yeah, not any time soon whilst a bank owns it. Such a ride would be a perfect complement to the Gold Rush Country area perhaps the Riverboat island?

All good^ I am still of the belief that the lift drive (neumatic) was powered by a build of pressure in the reservoir, or something like that. I was explained the process in some detail, like I said many years ago by one of the ride's designers who was very proud of the unique design and it's somewhat self-perpetuating operation. As Supervisor of this ride for a few years you could say I had a strong knowledge of it's workings and show elements to keep it looking and running as well as possible. It was particularly difficult to spot show lighting or speakers faulty as there was just so many of them and many in very hard to reach places. How do u fix something if you don't even know it's there? For the ride to continue, it would have taken a massive rebuild and the lift area replaced entirely with a safer and more reliable standard chain pull assent. Far too expensive a solution for little or no return on investment perhaps? I believe that there may have been some consideration surrounding the ride's revitalisation but for sure, millions would have had to be wagered on it. No way would a Lift in the same incarnation pass modern safety protocols - not without restraints that could not be built without new boats, and the list goes on.. Yeah I get why it had to go, at least the way it was anyway. It would be a shame though if something equally as ambitious not be considered as a worthy replacement

The lift pressure was assisted by the filling of water in the reservoir and it's downward plunging flushed water into the tank each time. Yes the ride had main pumps and bilge pumps throughout but whilst in show mode, this process saved a lot of energy. I'm not an engineer so explained that in lamens I guess - also in a way that it was explained to me by one of the ppl involved in it's original design .. Saying that the lift area had nothing to do with the ride's ultimate closure also has no substance unless you're willing to back it Anyway

GoGoGoBoy, you know I am with you 100% on the LTRR and that the atmosphere and surprises that this attraction featured were an integral part of the overnight success of WBMW. This ride, ABOVE ALL rides in Australia at the time promised a piece of Disney Magic for Australian Theme Parks. For those not aware the "Looney Tunes Studio - Journey into Fantasy" (originally named) was the Sentimental Favourite attraction of the original WBMW project, headed by creative Theme Park legend CV Wood, back in 1989. As wonderfully ambitious as this ride was for it's time, sadly it was plagued with the reality of the financial backing that it was built on. Despite such financial pressure, this is one ride that didn't really suffer too much from the "show" side of things and featured most of the magic as intended. SW's creative that built "Lassiter's Lost Mine" lent alot of their knowledge and expertise this ride. At a time when saving money for Warner Bros. was Paramount;), our Aussie Theme Park pioneers from SW came up with numerous cost effective solutions for the MW project. The finale for LTRR was a big such one. They came up with an ingenious approach that would save a fortune on operating costs, creating a totally unique pumping system that was driven by the ride's unique boat lift system. The lift was designed to work basically like a gigantic Toilet. When a boat would arrive into the area, enough pressure would have accumulated in the reservoir beneath the down shoot to power the lift upward. Once dispatched as the lift would lower,compressed water would be flushed into the reservoir, assisting current for the ride. It was an ingenious idea that due to it being a water ride had to be rebuilt a few times during the rides lifetime. It was also potentially the most dangerous feature of any Aussie Park for it's guests. When unsuspecting rider's reached the 'dead end' part and were foolish enough to try and step out of the boat thinking the ride was over. A big ugly log was eventually placed on the platform. Pretty much from opening day, a Lift Attendant sat behind a wall holding a button with a Supervisor overseeing the ride from a control room, located behind the 'Customer Relations' door, by the load dock. Ultimately, one could not predict the actions of individuals and despite millions of riders doing as they were told (remain seated) as welk as many attempts to make the area 'safe', it would just be a matter of time that someone would do something foolish and possibly killed. It would be my bet this is the number one reason the ride was eventually closed

Arent they just? But lol really, even Disney disapoints it's fans nowadays huh;)

Im probably a bit late to add my 10 cents here but better late than never hey? In case you don't agree with AlexB and others, I suggest you start focusing on something else to get your hopes up on kiddies - there aint no fire comin to this here Storm. Aint nobody got time for that! - well at least I gravely doubt VTP do so best you all get over it hehe My rationale requires a quick history lesson peeps (spoilers): ● prior to opening PASS was to have a huge (80-100ft high) city skyline back drop -dramatic aesthetically but also highly functional sound barrier. Never happened ● LTRR was destined for a thrilling finale promising to take riders up to unimaginable heights before plunging into a thrilling splash down. Result, well NOT quite. Shame about the booster motors (like coasters have) these bad boys barely lasted a few months but added a much needed push and thrill to the finale. I would be very surprised if anyone here ever knew about these existing ● Roxy Theatre was meant to be sloped and with automatically operating doors (didn't even get them from bat ride/MM hand be downs. Never will either ● Batride was planned for an interactive passenger sequence and an 'airport style' boarding gate as well as the anility to alternate cycles. Somewhat costly and ineffective - especially when a very big part of the rides system was produced by Sony - cutting edge technology featuring LP sized disc players and 2 x $40k+ prototype image and sound filtering amplifiers. - custom made units that saved the road outside from being moved a metre toward the lagoon, for a larger building to accommodate motion bases that would have to be about a metre longer, otherwise with screens just too close to their audience to be clear! Smart and saved a fortune to be sure! ● WWF was originally planned for a dazzling suite of special effects, animatronics, thrilling scenes such as explosions waterfalls blocking every path, an actual train derailing as you narrowly pass under, cheeky critters at every turn and a really dramatic mine exploding finale! There was a time I had the original 'blue sky' plans, shame the mountain facade and landscaping blew the budget coz another 5 mil would have gone a looooong way, but was it necessary? ● scooby was meant to feature a haunted castle in the laser area - all fully enclosed walls around the track but still no floor so you couldn't see around corners! Shame the dark ride part didn't at least get a roof or at the very least, maintenance/operations leaving maintenence lights on during show mode grrr Point is EVERY SINGLE MAJOR NEW ATTRACTION IS ALWAYS PLANNED TO BE BIGGER AND MORE SPECTACULAR. EVERY SINGLE TIME. Sadly the reality of 'budget' kicks in and we wind up getting what they actually paid for. I must say this was a grave reality which over the years, the few of us that truly cared and worked so close to the magic came to accept after a while. Never changed, sadly never will. We aint Disneyland and never will be. No matter how hard they try. I think as enthusiasts it's best to just appreciate the 'opening day' versions as the best version that you're ever likely gunna get.. any improvement further on should be celebrated as an absolute bonus, albeit doubtful Nonetheless peeps I do fear that the big 'WoW' moments in our new rides are sadly in the history books. I guess they have found out that the general public just don't care enough about that kind of shit, so perhaps it's the 1st thing to go

WOW That's a bit of a panty stainer!! Sadly I think it would be a tad ambitious to think we would get a coaster that long - certainly not with lapbars only surely.. Looks great though - right to then end, just keeps thumping.. Umm are those a couple of LIM power ups along the track?

Well for one it's not exactly a small footprint when you look around.. maybe a fun intamin like bizarro?

^ or even as an upgrade to GD?

100% agree with this idea for DW to reboot the Thunderbolt name, using it solely for the Park's largest and yet to become most iconic coaster. In a more convincing attempt to theme it, I reckon the old Blue Lagoon site would make for a perfect location, tieing in with the Bushranger / aussie pioneer theme, it would serve as an ideal fit to a refreshed Gold Rush area that could also easily include the Log Ride and not so easily, Giant Drop (perhaps rethemed as a giant well or mining instrument. The original Thunderbolt was the Park's 'weenee' and perhaps inappropriately themed to a Country Fair at the time. I would love to see a ThunderboltII featuring two gigantic loops at the start of the ride and maybe some sudden drops and dives into below ground / dark segments. Regardless, it should be a nod to the Park's history, yet presented in a way that signifies a bigger, brighter future and direction for the Park It mustn't be made of wood either. DW simply wouldn't maintain it And yes, dreams are still free

I'm with AlexB and Slick on this one too. So much could be done with such a large space and an indoor 'park within a park' featuring a swag of flats, retail and dining - perhaps even a nice dark ride, hell, even include the kids car ride, but execute it better. With a big chunk of the park already undercover, such a family friendly addition would make MW the hands down pick for tourists having to do a Theme Park on a rainy day - whilst still having an enjoyable time

Ok I'm going to beg for recognition now. Did anybody actually read my last post because I thought it was pretty bloody hilarious! Joz? Maybe you had to be there or have a stupid sense of humour... I dunno.. I tried.. Never fear and like it or not people I will strike again oneday but only when the time is right. For now, back to my sensible box I go

Well at least that gigantic shed is being put to some functional use, albeit a rather bland interior design effort lol. ★★★WARNING HUGE AMOUNTS OF STUPIDITY AND SARCASM LIE AHEAD★★★ NOW HERE'S A THOUGHT Perhaps they could consider recreating the look of an authentic giant unused sound stage as a fitting tribute to the Park's previous "Movie Magic" theme? This unique and delightfully inexpensive new attraction would consist of fully self escorted walking tours, showcasing the endless possibilities that such a vast empty space may or may not have! At the beginning of the tour, guests may opt to rent headsets for just $20 that are designed to enhance the tour experience within. Guests are reminded that the headsets are not for keeps and useless outside of the Auditorium. Crossing into the darkness, the group is given a moment to let their eyes adjust. Suddenly an announcement is made: "Hi everyone and welcome to the former Looney Tunes Studios (audience cheers). A place where imagination is non existent and absolutely nothing inside will happen. Today our tour will take us into the empty space of the former Tune Studios, but before I go on there is some important information I must inform you all about (audience sighs). You see it would appear that a demolition crew has taken everything away from the set and stolen Bugs Bunny! (Audience sighs). Apparently he was tossed out into a dumpster and heading down to a tip out back of Nerang! (Audience sighs again) But remember folks. You are afterall in a place where nothing could possibly happen, so let's head onto the set and forget about that Wascilly Wabbit" (doors open, guests enter) As guests walk within the witches hats, another voice over sounds: "Be sure to have those cameras at the ready folks - you just might feel the need to let your mind wonder away from the incredibly distracting nothing themeing inside, giving you something to do. We kindly ask that you also refrain from the use of flash photography as there is simply no point- you're about to experience a completely forgettable adventure, unlike anything else in the world and the largest of it's kind in the southern hemisphere!" Seemingly hours pass by yet amazingly just 15 minutes later, guests exit to the East side obligatory gift shop, with a twist that features everything from dry-rotted chairs, once featured in the Sundowner diner to buckets full of melted green coloured toxic slime, as formerly featured in the "Great Gremlin Adventure" - now yours to own for just 50 dollars! The Park's retail division not surprisingly excited by this fantastic big cash spinner! As they round the building and back into the park, guests face one last exciting surprise - bugs bunny sitting atop a loaded dumpster! Much to everyone's delight, this one last animatronic dodged the trip to the tip, now proudly twirling his eyes, mouth chattering away and with no audio, leaving it too the guests to figure out what he's supposed to be saying.. perhaps only those who remember the old ride will know or possibly care to But seriously...

Oh god is this the beginning of the end??? The Kiddie Car ride cometh

According to screamscape.com Despicable me will NOT be coming to Uni Singapore - frankly I'm totally fine with this. The idea is cute and all but having rode it's two previous incarnations, the ride system is unconvincing and well, just blah.. When I was visiting a couple of months ago I was surprised to see how run down the duelling coasters had become. Faided paint and signs of surface rust everywhere. I was never the biggest fan of Battlestar - both sides made an uncomfortable burn as they launched over the top and poorly negotiated corners with a few sharp bumps here and there.. The red side almost barely made it to the finish line and allegedly didn't on a few occasions before being shuttered for good. It's certainly no duelling dragons/dragon challenge and suffered badly because of it's Vekoma heritage. God forbid they don't enlist kumback for the rumoured new trains. ? If the ride does indeed stay, perhaps Startrek could make for a good theme? Star fleet vs Borg perhaps? ? Or is this perhaps being reconsidered as a future site for a Wizarding World? Hmm..

It is possible to reride AA although at no time -with people riding- is this technically permitted by Operations or for that matter accepted practice by the ride manufacturer's to do so. I am saying this simply because this information may be interesting to you Enthusiasts and also to suggest if you ever experience this for yourself that you consider notifying Guest Relations as it may be risking Guest safety! The Controller / Supervisor has 3 switches and a launch button. The switches are for the restraints,gates and the platform. They sit at a '12o'clock' position. Turn to one way, harnesses lock/gates/platform open/lowers. Turn the other way, restraints open/gates close/platform raises. The station Attendant also has an 'ok to launch' button. This will only do it's job when gates are closed with all harnesses locked. Not until this button is pressed can the Controller dispatch the car (button becomes illuminated) - and of course they can't do that without harnesses first being locked and gates closed As with all modern rides, however big or small, there are two different operating modes; Manual & Automatic. Manual mode is for use outside of operating hours and mainly used by Maintenance for isolating and testing specific blocks and functions. Just like in a car, Manual mode allows intentional control of a ride.whilst Automatic is designed for live operation.Less so, it is also used by Operations for safety testing as well as to manipulate specific areas during breakdown / Estops. Modern rollercoasters require power to unlock guest safety restraints, regardless of manual/auto status. It is power that sets you free from your position - not the other way around. This is truly the ultimate safety advantage of our modern safe ride technology With all this in mind, if you were to re-ride passengers on AA: - Train returns to station - Platform Attendant holds Ok button - Supervisor holds platform down - Supervisor holds dispatch button down - Gates obviously remain closed - Power is not returned to harnesses as cannot be released until platform is up and switches tripped - Harnesses remain locked as a result - Train is re-dispatched, barely stopping the car The issue here is the ride is being forced somewhat in to a manual function, whilst still operating in Automatic mode and therefore is something outside of it's warranted Operation. Like I said earlier, if you ever experience this for yourself you are better to report it. According to the the ride's design it would be improbable that anything could go wrong. Likewise, this would outside of it's original design and therefore foolish to practice

Pretty much Gazza. Not particularly exciting, SW could do better than this. HOWEVER whilst on the subject how about using this as a theme (mythical creatures of the deep) for a wonderful family friendly thrill dark ride along the lines of this new innovation in theme park thrills coming to Europa Park this year http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_-_The_Ride

Speaking of height.. perhaps we will see one of these take it's place?

Agreed. MW NEEDS FLATS. A couple of midway style rides, one for the Asylum courtyard and one in the western area would make a big difference. Reef Diver or Enterprise is one of my all time fave flats. It's thrilling and appeals to a wide demographic. It has also provided some much needed kinetic motion to DWs skyline for many years. I'm sad to hear it go

Interesting if you google each of our Parks by title, Both MW & SW have been equally rated a 4 out of 5 by 80 votes each. DW scored 4.2 by 86 votes.. interesting I guess if the general public view is that DW still is the favorite park. I believe this to be true. Enthusiasts excluded naturally but really who is their target audience and are they continuing to satisfy that true demand? Like it or not people but I think they are!

Wow look at the state of the wave at the back!! At first glance that 1st pic looked like a vine growing over the left side of the wave (fortunately not) Eureka Mountain almost looks in better condition!! But seriously,I am very glad to see they have reckognised a need for a major overhaul of one of their 'big6,7,8,15?!?' headliners - a somewhat backflip on the way much of the rest of the park has been looked after in years gone by. Dreamworld is clearly an over capitalised park and for too many years I believe this has been it's breaking strain. IMO they're better to spend on removing the shit that holds them back, the stuff that nobody goes there for anymore, rather, spend the money keeping what is worthwhile and ultimately reduce operating costs and sculpt a more positive future

My sister just uploaded this gem on facebook.. this is how I remembered Magic Mountain

I WANT to see them put a family attraction in there. This is not that. It is an idea targeted at an early age market that would occupy valuable real estate unnecessarily. It is also a poorly executed idea that has no place in a true Theme Park. Of course right now this is all speculation. Isn't this a site for Theme Park enthusiasts? Well at least thats what I thought the last decade or so I have been a member on here. Some people need to just chill the fuck out and enjoy the friendly banter that this place SHOULD be all about. Like I said, we will have to just wait and see.. I've had a pretty good strike rate in the past. Maybe this time I've got it all wrong. Still fun to speculate

The car ride, if it does still go ahead, won't take up much of the building space. Right now it's still a big empty space that's a handy store and maintenance shed. Makes me think the kiddie cars have been scrapped all together. Mostly educated guess -I mean come on, what sort of sound business decision is this idea anyway? Also a little wishful thinking too perhaps, however I am sure I speak for most when I say nobody wants this thing. One way or another, this year we will find out for sure