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Levithian

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  1. Multiple substations on site and their own feeders from the network thats not providing the suburbs nearby. Thats probably a good indication how much power the parks use. Might not have the rides at seaworld and wet n wild, but pumps and filtration suck down the juice before you even talk about heating or cooling the water too. Hate to think what a daily power bill would be worth.
  2. In the case of movieworld, they ran white christmas wednesday-sunday. So you'd run into that roadblock until basically after christmas. Someone has done the math and probably worked out the turnover generated isnt worth the added wages. Yeah, parks have big work forces and can roster people to avoid overtime, etc, but people in specialised positions with small workforces like maintenance, managers and park supers would probably generate a lot of overtime. You would think if the frw extra hours generated extra income outweighing the hassle, they would be doing it. Wet n wild used to have movie nights every night of the summer school holidays. Attendance dropped and it went to every friday, sat, then it stopped completely. Park used to be open to roughly 9-930 those nights, but it was apparently canned because the cost vs attendance didnt weigh up.
  3. Played any of the games or seen any of the current generation batman? Textured grey suit that started with AA. I reckon they pinched most of the design elements from Arkham City/origins games though. Smoothest the suit had looked. Origins is pretty close to the look of the current Robin thats in the park too.
  4. I reckon youll find that refers to the queue hall being stripped, and i wouldnt be surprised if it takes longer to be repaired. Its a big area with a lot of either created or molded pieces, so i wouldnt be surprised if it needs another 150-200k spent just on this room. Unless the company finds a pot of gold over the rainbow (maybe aquaman will blow the doors off), it would be like trying to get blood from a stone for a big spend during the final financial quarter. Maybe next year if its one of the first budgeted items to be approved.
  5. As opposed to it sitting as a stripped out shell? You are familiar with how advertising works right? Tell the truth with creative licence. They did everything they promised. It has been transformed. It has new technology, and whether you like them or not, the effects are improved. I think people are remembering what scooby was like in its prime, not what it was like when it closed initially to be gutted. Sets may have looked good but everything else was a mess and what effects hadnt been removed was very hit and miss. To get an opened, functioning ride with working effects, some of which is new technology, combined with a set that looks very similar to old is a infinitely better than the state of the ride the day it suddenly closed and was gutted. The fact it has working effects in multiple areas is a huge improvement than its ever been in the last decade. Its arguably the best it has ever been, even if it fell short of expectation. It might not be what some people want or what a lot on here were expecting, but you have to be a little realistic too.
  6. Theres motors that drive the train from the brake area into position at the end of the station. The squeals are the rubber wheels making contact with metal as it drives the train through the booster, more so than the wheels on the track. Next time youre at the park, go stand near the station and out in the observation area at road runner coaster and watch it climb the lift. Get similar rubber squeals for a similar reason.
  7. Thats your experience but it has nothing at all to do with the reality that it has been replaced. So when talking about time and just a refurb, thats not really the case. You can argue about them calling it new vs similar to old all you want though. But aside from showing new added effects in the adverts, they were just calling it next generation werent they? Not brand new, everything is different? I thought it was just a little confusing in the add because they kinda lumped it together with aquaman which is new, made it sound like they had new rides this summer when reality is they have a new static display and an old ride is open again largely complete. Edit: being realistic, what is the expected budget? Maybe a couple million if very lucky? Maybe 2/3 to go on actual construction. So that leaves you with a spend of maybe 600-700k on cool stuff. Not sure what you guys were expecting, but youd probably need a cool stuff budget in the millions itself (and not by just) to produce something near ground breaking or industry leading in just a couple of effects/sections of the ride. That was never going to happen with the financial state village are reporting. It was never going to get a $10,000,000 make over to blow everyone socks off, no matter how big an opportunity they had to upgrade. Nobody would have ever approved that capital spend. Not when they are cutting costs everywhere and trying to remove debt. May have had more money spent on it if dc rivals wasnt the big committed spend before scooby doo needed rebuilding. But timing kinda sucks and the coaster was their completely mental, makes no sense, big spend for the decade.
  8. They gutted the majority of the ride, right back to nothing. It wasnt removed and put back, it was hauled out and recreated from scratch. Everything from basically the load station back to unload has been developed, created and installed. They even made the building bigger in a few areas to accomodate it. So im not sure where refurbishment comes from?
  9. Maintenance is done by outside companies such as?... Its done in house, that is the point of having a maintenance department.
  10. They upped the height limit earlier this year too i think. Seems connected. Out of all rides, being adults riding with small kids, id take a guess and say they had issue with the single lap bar or were prompted by an audit as its not the only bizare safety related addition we have seen. You could have a 120kg burly man sitting with his 20kg 5 or 6 year old, sharing the same lapbar. Could probably stack 2 or 3 kids behind the bar, so maybe its a risk. We dont live in a world anymore where its expected adults take responsibility and monitor their kids, so you see more things pandering to the lowest common denominator everywhere you go.
  11. Maybe poor choice of words? You are supposed to register yearly, thats not what i was meaning. The filling out the paperwork and applying for registration, or renewing and paying the fees, thats done of your own accord. You could install equipment all over your site, but its your job to send out the requests to worksafe to have it all registered. If you dont, they wont know whats on site unless they ever have need to come out and inspect for compliance. Thats where you could see it falling through the cracks. Maybe one of the recommendations to come out of the inquest will be yearly inspections by worksafe? Things like air conditioners i could understand. Missing their registrations and overlooking the paperwork or never being noticed, but rides? Surely someone in the department had been to the park as a guest and saw changes/new rides or even just the tv commercials. Dreamworld admitted they didnt follow proceedure because they felt their inhouse policies/inspections were enough without having government regulators involved, so there were some things that had no registrations at all, while some were "only" years out of date. I mean, wtf?! Like you, under threat of fines and a smack by worksafe, surely this should have been picked up by the regulator before it got this far. They seem like they have plenty to answer for, too. The coroner normally doesnt hold back in shaming government departments if they've dropped the ball. I can see the basic structure of the department reply now though; "we are underfunded and do what we can....", followed by more outrage when, if pushed, they are found to have a backlog of work going back years because they cant fund enough inspectors.
  12. I think plant equipment registration is voluntary. You are supposed to submit paperwork every year to the government that basically says you are maintaining things to standard and they send you back a "registered" tag to place on your piece of equipment or to file somewhere I think. Explains why things can get missed, but what should be answered for is if this paperwork stopped as the government inspectors attested to, why didn't they send someone in a year after it lapsed? or at the least, did anyone even call the park for a please explain? If paperwork was years out of date, it just makes no sense that the government department in charge of these registrations doesn't have checks in place to flag someone/something when they stop. It should have raised many eyebrows before it got to this stage, it's not like it was a corner store that could shut up shop overnight and vanish.
  13. Engineering and Construction Electrical General Safety (everything from railing heights to trip hazards). Usually end up with inspectors from each of those disciplines turn up on site and physically inspect the site, but also go through your plans, proceedures and associated paperwork. Imagine its similar when they go to something like a theme park instead of a building site.
  14. When you lookup the name registra for the website you listed, their domain name servers point to ones based in Qatar (W3QATAR.NET) too.
  15. And my reply is basically saying if they are, the direct fallout, other than word of mouth/reputation is pretty much nill anyway.
  16. The company, as they testified at the inquest, has a policy in place that the ride pumps were not to be restarted multiple times. They also testified how important water levels are from a safety standpoint. Not only that, but they also testified that they knew there was a problem with the pumps and had an expert tasked with coming to inspect them. On top of that, they knew the age of the units too, and had a history of faults occurring during the month leading up to the deaths. So even after experts have testified they had very, very poor documentation or procedures in place, what poor practices they thought they should adhere to, were ignored by managers anyway. Given the history and the fact that you thought it frequent enough to have an external company come to inspect/repair them, if you continually had faults after the fact the proper decision was to close the ride until the problem could be rectified. Opening it, knowing all this is negligence. Even if for a moment you could prove the operators didnt shut the ride down properly. The park is still negligent for returning it to service multiple times creating the situation in the first place. if they are based overseas, even if they are, a judgement handed down against them in australia would basically prohibit them from trading in the country again under threat of staff being arrested at the airport, BUT if you actually wanted anything out of them you would have to file a motion in the court based in their home territory and probably have it go to trial. So you'd have to fight another legal battle in another country under their system/rules, which means all the testimony, all the witnesses, etc would probably have to be presented again. So thats probably not going to happen, but it would be nice if they were effectively blocked from providing services within the country.
  17. You dont need to know how each ride physically works to oversee a department. You have to UNDERSTAND how engineering principles work and UNDERSTAND control systems, so when your very experienced (with this ride, function or system) staff come to you, explaining the situation or discussing a matter with you, you know what they are talking about even if it means you can't walk over to a ride and push buttons on a console. You can talk over to a ride with this very knowledgeable tech staff who know exactly how to operate the ride, who then can perform those very basic functions while you talk about the actual control systems and mechanics that are happening once that button is pushed. See the difference? You know what systems are actually functioning when you press that button that starts a conveyor, and how that conveyor works. The operator pushing the button only understands the function, not the process. The department head is going to know about the engineering that goes into running a complex machine like an amusement ride, they don't have to sit down in front of a ride and run it. Might things change following this inquest? maybe. But it really doesn't make a lot of difference. Unless you are a chartered engineer registered with one of the few societies in the country, you aren't making judgement calls on systems anyway. So even having an engineer in the top job of the maintenance department who could replace a sick operator at a moments notice isn't going to achieve much. What you are supposed to be is someone up on current industry standards around things like safety and operation and very adept at recognising potential issues before they happen. This is what half of your job is, the running of the department is left to supervisors. You oversee the works and are tasked with bringing in auditors and technical inspectors or 3rd party engineers for advice or to respond to outside requests, changes or incidents. You basically want a chartered engineer prepared to put a recommendation to paper, essentially putting their registration and insurances on the line. I would be surprised if there are any of these people in any theme park in the country. They are the ones that command big dollars and are ultimately singing off on projects and developments for pretty much everything you see around us. If a person has had a hand in building or maintaining it, there's a chartered engineer who has signed off on it. So, going ahead and making changes to a control system full of buttons and complex controls isn't something someone running the department probably does either. It would be like my boss coming into the office on monday and saying he wants the bottom chords moved higher in all the trusses of this conversion we are doing so they aren't immediately visible from the big glass doors at the end of the building. No problems, i'll just change the bottom timbers out on all the engineered components that hold the roof up and tie the walls together. It's not like it would need a complete redesign to be safe, no big deal. What seems to have happened at dreamworld though is they have had good, 3rd party, professional advice on many issues of safety, control and operation of their rides, and little to none of it has been implemented. This may not be just an issue with the department head though as they would have budgets to work within, but further up the management chain where the money decisions are really made. Especially when it seems clear they had been told to put a hold on any spending that wasn't already a capital works project. Really, jail time needs to be an outcome of this. Who gets jailed should ultimately come down to who made the yes or no decisions that placed ALL of us in jeopardy. Not just the people who lost their lives, BUT EVERY PERSON WHO VISITED THE PARK IN RECENT HISTORY. If there is a long suffering maintenance department burried under the lack of funding decided upon by people like the financial officers, park general manager or even the chief operations officer, then no matter how inept some people in the department were, it's not ultimately their responsibility alone. In this specific case; Yes - allowing the ride to return to operation that many times following faults should see you jailed. You ignored even your very poor control methods/standards and people died because of it. The ride should never have been running, and if you advised park management of this and they put pressure on you to keep it open, you should have grown a spine and told them it's an issue of safety and you weren't prepared to open the ride until the electrician arrives to inspect the problems with the pumps. and Yes - Not approving a MAJOR safety upgrade to your ride that would have made its operation easier and implemented a control system that no longer required the input or judgement of operators, which would have meant these people would not have been killed, you go to jail. You, or they (together) sat there in front of a bunch of numbers and discussed the works and ultimately decided an amount worth less than your monthly salary was too great to ensure that your guests will be afforded with at least a basic level of safety that should have been (and was previously recommended) performed long ago. You put a price on each of those people's heads that amounted to a few thousand dollars each. You all should go to jail. And if they bring in a new law that requires every amusement operator in the country to register for a licence to operate amusement rides, you should be struck off the register to make sure you are NEVER in the position to weigh up the cost of human life again. You were supposed to weigh up the cost of upgrading the ride vs shutting it down, you weren't supposed to weigh up the cost of safety vs the cost of human life. I hope it comes out in the inquest if these same methods were applied to any other rides too, because it's these people that need to be turned out for all the media and the general public to see. There needs to be a clear message sent out that it's not OK to judge who lives and who dies. If you cannot afford to maintain, upgrade and operate a complex, dangerous machine within the grounds of what the safety industry, and hell, members of the public consider an acceptable risk; then you don't get to open the chain links or gates to that ride until you come up with the funding to do so. When it starts becoming a business of making profit for shareholders, you start killing people and that should never be acceptable. The board members who stepped down should have necked the lot of them and turfed them all out as they were out the door themselves.
  18. I see no mention of lasers in the job listing. Why are there no lasers?!
  19. Plus get those people in that skim lakes to remove plant growth aswell. They use nets and drag it to the shore.
  20. I think the controlling factor height wise is going to be possible different foundations required and how deep/how much they have to spend to keep going up. Starts getting real expensive when you have to put in a cofferdam. Might reach a point where the bean counters decide its not worth the added spend to go up another 10m, etc.
  21. Yes, which is why i was replying to the person above me who said nothing much more will come from regulators. They have plenty to answer for as well, as they dont just work within the theme parks, but industry as a whole. So it could call into question hundreds or thousands of investigations or cases they are ultimately responsible for, which probably has greater impact than establishing the liability of dreamworld. Especially if the coroner passes down recommedations of some sort of licence or registration scheme. You cant task the same regulators who ultimately overlooked so much with the responsibility of overseeing a new standard. Might mean quite a bit for safety compliancing in general if they are critical of the government workplace inspectors.
  22. All the external companies tasked with inspections or compliancing having been called yet though have they? Theres plenty for government inspectors/agencies to answer for. Things like why, over years of operation and inspection, did the registration for all rides and plant equipment, and lodging of those documents slip through the cracks? Why was it allowed to continue and why werent the lapses investigated which probably would have shown some pretty big discrepancies in their documentation and policies, which should have snowballed into a full blown investigation. Where there's smoke, there's fire, etc. Might not have saved lives and stopped an incident like this happening, but on the other hand, after being thoroughly investigated and being taken to task for such poor attitudes towards operation and documentation of their rides, the apparent lack of policies and proceedures when it comes to safety; It may have caused them to make safety upgrades a priority to appease the assessors which would have saved these people. Its all very open ended, lots of what if's, but inquests by nature are looking at all parties for anything thats overlooked, or basically failure to do the job they are tasked with (usually in the interest of the general public). Includes government departments, even responders like medical people and police who attended. Even if they did nothing wrong, by nature of this basically being a first in the state, the coroner often makes recommendations how to better improve how the services respond in this situation too.
  23. Brakes in the station are still friction brakes. If they have replaced the shoes or the brake fins, you get that smell for awhile.
  24. I know exactly what people are getting at, with the expectation of witnessing trauma. I understand what is being said by reasonable people here, im just trying to get people to understand it is fundamentally wrong and walks all over employee rights that everyone is entitled to. All we can do is minimise the potential for harm, we cant remove it. So its even MORE important that people in these positions are afforded the same coverage and compensation as the rest of us. Why would anyone put themselves out there? It would be like russian roulette. The desire to help those in need isnt going to override the possibility youll ruin your work life, maybe break up your marriage, your family and even contemplate suicide. Again, high risk work environments do not absolve those the right to seek compensation simply because they are employed in that position. The other people i saw commenting on articles saying they are money seeking or money grabbing really pissed me off though and is why i initially replied. Those people are vile and should hope they never need medical assistance.
  25. Universal Singapore - 2017 Attendance - 4.22 million Village Roadshow Theme Parks Gold Coast - Combined 2017 Attendance - 4.96 million. See the difference? a park like Movieworld still only has roughly half the attendance of Universal in Singapore.
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