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I would say it is shockwave. There was a blue train and a red train, perhaps they were stored near each other in the junk yard. Another possibility is Great American Scream Machine at SFGAdv although I think it may still be operated with the original trains so then again... maybe not. Great American Scream Machine http://www.coasterimage.com/pictures/sixfl...ammachine04.htm

That truck left during the middle of the day. It was one of a few that went past loaded up with track pieces.

Here is a photo of a truck leaving Wonderland today (15/12). It's a sad day.

That drop has been re-profiled a number of times costing the beach quite a bit of cash. Apparently, it only seems to get worse evey time they touch it. Also, the F1 car was a promotion for a new ride (not sure what it was). They took the outer shell of a F1 car and bolted it onto the base of a regular train (or at least one car of the train). I wouldn't have thought it would have been heay enough to make it round the track, but, there you go!

But Australia as a whole doesn't have a population of 250 000 000. But i do have to agree, Wonderland could draw larger crowds. Maybe not up there with the American parks but still quite decent.

If it was between Demon and Cyclone back when it was at Luna Park, Cyclone (or Big Dipper) would win no question. You can't beat a coaster with a view like that. Now i'd say their pretty much even. Both are average rides. Neither has anything particularly special about them. I'd still probably go toward Cyclone though simply because its a custom layout and you won't find it in fifty other parks throughout the world. ________________

IOA? Try Paramounts Carowinds. Paramount haven't sold the coaster. It's just a relocation. IOA is owned by Universal or NBC or whatever was formed after the merger/takeover. _________________

I have a park map from 1994 (pre Space Probe) and the waterfall is clearly marked.

The Thundarbolt is not being sold to Wonderland. It has not been sold yet. Dreamworld has it ready for shipping WHEN somebody does buy it. It is currently listed for sale on usedrides.com Once on the site, go to 'search ads' and then 'for sale'. About half way down the first page there is a small add for a double looping meisho coaster. It is a 1982 park model. It is Thunderbolt.

Actually, it was on 'The great outdoors' but those shows are all the same anyway. I saw it and was reasonably impressed. Coverage was a little short but for a segment on a show like this it was pretty well done. It had some good footage and stuff like that.

I know it has gone a little off the topic now but anyway, i have a map pre space probe from 1994. There is a ride in the beach called 'Mountain Cascades'. Is theat still there? (sorry, i never visit the beach). If not, what was it? Anyway, i don't have a scanner but i will still try to find someone to scan it for me. The map also has a basketball court next to demon on the other side of where space probe is now.

Back to the upstop wheel business for a second. Wooden coasters normally do not have wheels or magnets to prevent them coming off the track. A thin metal strip sits under an overhang on the inside of the track is what prevents it from coming off. It is almost like a thin bar bolted on the bottom of the train so that if it lifts up it will hit the overhng and hold it on the track. If anyone owns "Roller Coaster: wooden and steel coasters, twisters and corkscrews" by David Bennett, the proof is on p70.

The cost of rides varies alot. Firstly, depending on the manufacturer. B&M are probably the most expensive because their rides are so smooth and well designed. Intamin is down a bit and below that is probably Vekoma and Arrow (excluding the 4D ). The reason Australia isn't doing too well in the ride department is because of the cost of shipping. We have no track or coaster train manufacturing plants so all goods have to be shipped in from Europe or USA. This can be quite expensive.

Maybe some kind of rock outcrop could cover the back of the slide. I don't think it would be that hard. I'd say Holiday World just didn't want to spend the extra cash.

You think thats cool. Check out Holiday Worlds newest water slide - Zinga http://www.negative-g.com/HolidayWorld/HW2...-Opening-1.html

Who said anything about roadworks?

The factory business is as follows. This is the truth and if you don't believe me then just wait and see. It is not a factory but rather a commercial office area/business park which will include warehouses. There will be no type of manufacturing facility. The land does not belong to Wonderland. It was sold to Australand or whatever that building company is that begins with 'Aust'. I know of one company that has signed on. I can't say who but it is the Australian branch of a large foreign company. The only thing i am uncertain about is the location exactly. I think it is the strip of land right along the highway. It will be very close to Wonderland and access will be off Wallgrove road.

No, It means it would need a drop greater than 400ft. It's the greatest drop record. Its possible but unlikely. If it happened it would be down into the valley but as i said, i doubt it. I'm not going to get my hopes up because of some workers in wonderland, even though it would be great if it was true.

How could someone die on the wizards fury? Was it recently? Is that why they took it away because that was my favourite ride as a kid.

I really think a hyper would be the way to go. The only problem would be cost. The companies charge a fortune in for shipping. With all their room a hyper could be turned into one of the best on the planet. Maybe they could go with another prototype like space probe. That would probably make it a little cheaper.

Ok, I created this topic to see what rumours people have heard about new ride at wonderland and thought i'd bring you up to speed on some stuff too. First, wonderland is now several years overdue for a new major attraction. 1985 - open 1990 - demon 1995 - space probe 2003 - still nothing Apparently they had been negotiating with Intamin and had confirmed the worlds first 9 inverting coaster but upon the announcement of thorpe parks ride it was cancelled. Now they may go for a hyper. Alternatively, people think they are looking to get a well themed large log flume similar to that at WB movie world. What they will do now is anyones guess. Anybody have any idea?

Ned Kelly's Getaway used to be a waterslide at the beach. Surprisingly, it actually involved an overhang. I don't know exactly how but i think it must have closed due to safety reasons because that must have been unsafe.

I don't think this coaster will ever come about. This track has been at scenic world for about 5-7 years now. I have been there many times since the track first appeared and there has never been any sighns it will be opening. It has been painted rrecently but thats about it. Sorry to dissapoint you guys.