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  1. rappa
    Southbound isn’t very pretty either
  2. rappa
    I kinda gave you more credit for being able to understand the point I was making...
  3. rappa
    I'll celebrate that from the comfort of the dockside bar. Its a nope from me for those things. I haven't ridden a Skyflyer though admittedly. Is it more view than spew? Certainly not getting me on Vortex though
  4. rappa
    Yeah but its not really transparent, nor is it the park, thats kind of my point. In hindsight that should have just been a steel lift hill for the wooden coaster I imagine. But again, hindsight is a wonderful thing.
  5. rappa
    What's your point here? What do you want them to do about that TODAY?
  6. rappa
    Cool story... pity it's half of it... Then after it's grand opening, it basically shit itself again immediately after and even CAUGHT FIRE at one point. They have never stated what the issue was/is with the launch. I mean you can hand pick bits at will to suit the story but the reality is different. Again, I'm not defending Sea World, but don't make out someone else to be the poster child on this. And I could give two shits about what a website banner says. The fact is the Grand Opening of Atlantis has come and gone. We can keep pissing and moaning on here about what HAS happened IN THE PAST, or we can move on and make comment on what's happening moving forward. You can't condemn the park for all time now based on the past. So judging today, for their actions now, they opened it without fanfare. But if staying angry makes you feel good, go for it, seems a great way to spend a sunny Wednesday.
  7. rappa
    Didn't the company doing the photos just change? Surely related
  8. rappa
    I take issue with this. Dollywood have never since day 1, and still to this day been "transparent" with the issues on LR. They (and no one else) have ever said what was, and is wrong with it and what they need to do to fix it. Yes they told people when it was open and not, but pretty much it's has the same kind of problems at Sea World, they did a big opening and it was issues ever since. Never been transparent at all. Plus Leviathan may not be a World First, but in reality it's an Australian First (modern tech wooden rollercoaster) and with how different Aus is than the entire rest of the world it may as be considered worlds first. The above is not an endorsement or condemning of soft open or not, it's just taking the issue with the statement that Dollywood were completely transparent and SW aren't. Trident quietly opening today with little to no fanfare or announcement kinda sounds like 'testing the waters' and 'softly opening' to me does it not?
  9. rappa
    I get the joke but can we try not to derail every thread with zinger Atlantis burns. It just makes the forums a total gross mess and then we have to moderate and that’s very dull. The reviews thread is already a shambles, much like the opening week so let’s just let that be the place for it please.
  10. rappa
    Taking a bight of the dolphins is generally frowned upon… Actually is Dolphin Sushi considered Seafood?
  11. rappa
    But you only soft open until you believe the ride to be ready. So all of this it should have been soft open talk is moot (not in hindsight but that’s not reality) because even if it did, it would only have been to the same point as before last Friday so you’d have the same issue. Again, unfortunate yes, incompetent no. But if anyone on here wants to believe they know better than the people who do that for a job you’re entitled to your opinion. I mean it hot big media coverage, a lot of haply guests and will drive Christmas visitation… doesn’t sound so botched to me.
  12. rappa
    The two aren’t mutually exclusive. Pretty stabdard to have reps at opening. Are you suggesting they didn’t think it was ready but opened it anyway?
  13. rappa
    The ride builder believed it to be ready. The train manufacturer believed it to be ready. The controls manufacturer believed it to be ready. The park projects team believed it to be ready. The park maintenance team believed it to be ready. The park operations team believed it to be ready. If all these experts didn’t foresee any problems with opening, the idea that some theme park forum members know better is laughable. It’s unfortunate there appear to be unforeseeable issues but thats what they are. VRTP doesn’t hate its customers as much as many here would like to suggest otherwise.
  14. rappa
    How does that affect things? Once it’s dispatched it doesn’t car who’s in the seat right?
  15. rappa
    So it’s problems with trains? The trains have been finished and running for months and I heard have had over 1000 cycles each… how would a soft opening solve those issues exactly? How could the park anticipate something working for over 1000 laps is going to suddenly have issues? And before you mention guests, the trains restraints have to cycle (open, close, lock and be checked) every time it runs. So they didn’t just have 1 day with a few riders. If the issues are with the train, a lot of the anger doesn’t make sense as it’s not a forceable problem is it?
  16. rappa
    FML I cannot. You just don’t get it.
  17. rappa
    No I didn’t. I said a soft opening wouldn’t work because it would still create the complaints, I stand by that opinion. I said world made decisions and unfortunately some didn’t go perfect but also they didn’t have lot of other options given the timeline and how the real world works. That’s true. I said the complaints are a false level of outrage from people who think they understand things but don’t. I also stand by that opinion. I also wager the benefit in publicity and surprise/shock value the park got from keeping it all under wraps till opening day has far outweighed the small negativity from a vocal few that have been disappointed. (Side note most if those people will go back again and spend more money at the park). So as much as it might anger your precious self, it’s probably still worked well for the park.
  18. rappa
    Sounds like you have some ACTUAL expertise in the area and know what you are talking about. This thread is no place for that!
  19. rappa
    Its getting pretty funny now with all these assumptions. Who said they didn’t run the ride under normal conditions with staff? Who said the exit is temporary? You have all just decided these things to fit the narrative you’ve invented. @Rivals the more times you say Fully Commissioned the more ridiculous your definition get’s and make’s no sense when coupled with your ‘it’s not ready yet’ opinion.
  20. rappa
    I enjoy that at no point has anyone carrying on been able to answer what ‘fully commissioned’ is despite continuing to throw the term around. Either it’s fully commissioned and doesn’t need a soft opening, or it’s not and shouldn’t be classes as open. I can’t keep up this thread is hoping around so much. What is very clear is few people if any seem to have any actual idea/experience on how ride commissioning actually works, how marketing campaigns work, or how projects are actually managed in the real world. And as soon as examples are given on why things are the way they are it’s all AH NO ITS NOT LIKE THAT THIS IS DIFFERENT SEA WORLD BAD BOOOO I seem to recall a heap of complaining about ST previews at the time, not to mention all the mud slinging over Sky Voyager. But apparently I remember wrong and in fact Dreamworld handled their ride perfectly and Sea World have no clue. **side not, where did this rubbish that the theming isn’t finished come from? Give me a break, the solid line since opening is the absolute praise for how good a job they did on the theming.
  21. rappa
    Yes it does. Because there is a greater expectation that a ‘fully commissioned’ ride thats been open for years wouldn’t have as many problems as a brand new one. Let me ask this. What is ‘fully commissioned’? Like at what point are they allowed to set an opening date, book advertising, arrange billboards, book the media? All of which has decent lead times? And then what if the day before a $50 component in the motor drive or the lift motor fails, blows up the drive and its 6 weeks to get a new one and make repairs? How angry are we allowed/not allowed to be then? Actual legitimate questions. I was just in Las Vegas, a new show has opened there that was years in the making. It had months of dress rehearsals and previews (ie soft opening). A week after official opening colleagues of mine spent several thousand dollars on tickets to the show. That night the main ending of the show failed, it ground to a halt and ruined the whole thing. Are they allowed to be angry? Should the show have never opened knowing there was a chance something could fail? Just want to know where the line is here? No, but you are saying Sea World don’t realize a soft opening is needed and Movie World do. Its the same people so how does that make sense?
  22. rappa
    You realise Movie World and Sea World are the same right? Its the one company and management… How about maybe there just wasn’t time for soft openings? If they had announced dec 02, and then ran into problems and pushed it back then people would complain about that. What if people booked a trip and then a week before they said no, not opening? Those people would then be upset. Like there is no perfect way to do this and at the end of the day 100s of happy guests have ridden it already. Its a bloody theme park ride. The hyperbole over what a catastrophe it is because it hasn’t been smooth sailing is just ridiculous. Do you know how many people a week queue for an hour or more for Rise of the Resistance at Disneyland only to have it break down before their ride and they be offered no expectation on when it might open again? And that ride has been OPEN for years.
  23. rappa
    You are 100% correct. Based on the hour by hour operational status of the ride they should put up or disassemble billboards interstate. They also should wait until the ride is cycling trains full of guests before allowing any guests queue for it. They really don’t know what they are doing and should refer to your years of experience in theme park operations instead. I’m sure an automated turnstile could solve half these issues just as a start.
  24. rappa
    Yeah and I’m saying no one would get it. The ride would brake down and everyone would be on here bitching that screens weren’t working and they came all way there and didn’t get to ride, etc etc. As usual your posts are living in a fantasy land. Does it suck the ride is going down? Yes of course it does, but it happens. Steel Taipan was an off the shelf ride with a car port for a station from a manufacturer that already built one 5 mins down the road. Leviathan is a one off custom built coaster and the first one for the manufacturer in a country that has INSANELY different safety standards to the rest of the world. You really can’t compare the two. Like I said, it sucks. But throwing around things like “they’ve handled the entire ride building poorly” is a bit if a stretch. Reality is, it’s annoying, people get annoyed and then have a vent. Which is fine, but let’s have some perspective at the same time. Be mad at things to be justifiably mad at. The ride going down in its first few days of opening isn’t one of them. As for communication, no park ever including Disney has told guests how long a ride will be down for or what is wrong with it when it is.
  25. rappa
    Its got nothing to do with Sea World. This is the care at nearly every ride opening anywhere. I once flew to the other side of the world to hopefully ride Lightning Rod. When I got there it died and didn’t run again for months… and STILL has issues years later. Shit happens, and as I said it’s just the risk we all take trying to get on something early. What good does pissing and moaning on the internet do?
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