DaptoFunlandGuy

Yeah - Mistakes happen all the time! Here's a few choice mistakes by Cadboy Ok - now heres a real kicker - This one is from Cadboy Posted on: Oct 21 2008, 06:19 PM That link points to part 5 of the guidelines, which says Spelling, punctuation and grammar should be correct and proper at all times. Take the necessary time to properly form your posts, because if they are not up to standard they may be deleted. Many Browsers these days have built-in spell checkers so there is no excuse for not making the effort. And all that within the last 4 days. Cadboy - "let he who is without sin cast the first stone". You seem to be able to police the site very well when someone else isn't following the guidelines, but can't take the time out to form your posts properly. You poke fun at others who make errors, and yet you make those errors too. You pull members up for not following the guidelines, and yet you don't either! The thing that really gets me is that you correctly spell some really complicated words like prosthetic and discrimination (well - I say complicated, I mean in reference to some of the above words) but you fail on words like Safety and Maybe. Do you only bother to spellcheck the big words you don't know? or is it really weird you can spell prosthetic, a 10 letter word, but not safety, 4 letters shorter? I guess what i'm trying to say is the way I see it, you slipped up and made a lot more mistakes than Doc Brown and it caught on from there. Lighten up abit, things like this happen on the forums all the time. Don't take it as a personal attack because someone mimics the mistake you made in your post. Back on to topic, but clint - anything you can share regarding any particular lighting we will see under the roof?

I like it Richard, i think Construction HQ looks great - although of course I don't know what else you've got planned for it - i'd probably leave it as is. I do like the little flash animation between the photos, with the bubble effect - is it possible to randomise the effects so it does something a little different once in a while?

Well no, I wasn't forgetting that, but if you're saving the Super and Workcover levies on that amount of staff, you're going to have enough money to front it up - its all on percentages. If you reduce the staffs working hours by 15%, you're saving 15% off the other costs such as super and workcover. So with 15% saved off 20 staff, gives you 300%, or full priced super and workcover for THREE staff. While the savings are very unlikely to be used towards hiring new staff, meaning that not having the savings to cover the 4th person's super and workcover, at the end of the day I was just trying to demonstrate that while most people viewed the 1 hour closure as being pointless, it does in fact save the park quite a lot of money, which in turn can be used for other things. Again, if you're cutting staff hours, you're unlikely to be hiring more staff, but I used the "4 full time staff" example as it is a reasonably understandable figure for most people to comprehend, because "a years wages" makes sense to most people.

I don't think sea world would have the facilities to house it, even as a "rescue animal". They require quite deep pools, deeper than dolphin cove - and there would not be the option of using Shark bay for obvious reasons. I find it amusing that the movie Free Willy, along with it's subsequent sequels and spin offs all revolved around the freedom of a killer whale that ultimately died in captivity simply because, for all intents and purposes, it had been domesticated. For those whose education on killer whales stems from free willy - the bent dorsal is explained in the movie as being a result of captivity - which is in fact false - see "shamu" Slight tangent, being that SW is a Warner Village park, and Free Willy being a Warner Picture - theres a startling reference to the disney company in that movie. Those who collect disneyana would know it as a "hidden mickey". Can anyone tell me where the hidden mickey is? (it isn't that hard - google should help) At the end of the day, while a lot of marine parks do have killer whales - SW SD for example, a lot of them have these as a result of rescue and or breeding programs, and have been established for quite some time, back when the capture of a wild marine mammal was a little less of a conscience matter (as well as a legal one). Lastly - while sea world GC did consider killer whales in the past (back when the legalities and moralities were a little looser also) in their current form, there is absolutely NOWHERE to put them on the spit.

on the subject of stunt show comedy relief, Wonderland used to have Felix for the Action Man show - one of the guys who did Felix was named Duncan I think - anyone know what happened to him?

I don't claim to be an expert on the launch systems either, but as far as rollbacks on launched coasters etc, it can be many different reasons. The issues that occur in the morning could be from a number of things, the first that pops to mind being cold wheels. Whether Nylon or polyurethane wheels, as it cycles, the wheels would warm up. This would be the same for the track - as the day warms up, the track would also expand slightly. I would also think that the computer calculations would have something to do with it. From memory - don't the computers in the ride system calculate the force needed for each train due to differences in weight etc? or do they just throw full tilt? I think we asked the question a while ago and someone also mentioned the cablewinch itself - again the matter of heat and expansion having an impact. *sits back and waits for the real tech heads to come in and explain why*

*Groan* The logistics of such a move are beyond the realm that even Disney could consider.

Well let me know when we're up to Part 1 of Page 1, chapter 1, rev 1, phase 1, section 1, subsection 1, wave 2?

By my count, there is roughly 18 stores in WBMW. If you figure a few are ride stores that have to be open, bring it down to say - 13. Now, some of these run on 1 staff, some on multiple, so overall, lets say an average of 20 staff across the board. Opening 90 minutes after park open (and i think some stores opened before 10:00 to get business before they drop the rope??) means they save 90 minutes in wages per day, 364 days per year. Average wage of those staff would be about $15 per hour. $22.50 per staff per day x 20 staff per day x 364 days per year = $163,800 per year saved. This is the budget to be able to afford another 4 full time staff per year. This doesn't take into account the other costs associated with the operation of the stores - electrical (which would be minimal) consumables such as light globes, etc (small but it does add up - just like cutting employee hours by 90 mins per day). Sure they miss out on 90 minutes of revenue, but with the exception of pre-opening stores that hold the guests before the rides open, the first 90 minutes of any park operation - and nobody is thinking about shops - they all run for their first few rides of the day before the queues get busy. The advice i've seen numerous members of this forum give people asking advice about visiting parks has always been to hit the big rides that have lower capacity or higher demand early.... noone is going to a shop that early in the morning unless it is an unusual need. Its a smart decision, anyway you look at it - shops at parks have a lunchtime rush, and a closing time rush - theres never an opening time rush - thats reserved for the rides.

Capacity wise, yes it doesn't have many seats per car, but the ride experience itself would not be a long one, with the tracks being only about 200 metres, the experience is short, and could probably accomodate in the high hundreds per hour. I agree that for 10 mil, a more fleshed out coaster would be preferred, but for those who said it couldn't be themed - view that photo.

Well, i'm sure the "Japs" will be no worse off than any other guest. Naturally if there is any signage in a major themepark, the parks will have organised translations for many different language, including Rascist Hick. With the exception of Sea World, which is too far, all of the WVTP photo outlets in WnW and WBMW are linked to a central server wirelessly. You can get a photo from any attraction at any other kiosk. On my last visit to WnW, we accidentally got a photo from SE wet (it was in our day pack). We were able to get the photo re-printed at WnW's photo kiosk. The only reason we discovered this was when we were ordering a photo from WnW, there was a template there for scooby, and the attendant showed us how he could log into any of the attractions in MW. I'm sure that answers that.

Holy Crap - bust me sideways - Gazza when did you become a community leader? I mean its not that I don't think it is deserved, I think it's well deserved - but that was a shock seeing that edit! Don't know how much time you'll have to run around and correct all the spelling on the site, but if it was going to be anyone, glad you're on the team... helpful to have a little more presence - just like it was when Clint and Joz were "upgraded". On a side note, it will be good to see this when it finally opens, even if the concrete stays.

These have been posted before, but to save you searching the archive, here are two good sites: The first is some Disney Park Simulators The second is a few different style attractions from Alton Towers from the boys at Towers Times. I love the disney ones, but aren't very hands on, and tend to freeze every now and again if you play for too long. The alton towers ones aren't great on graphics, but do really challenge you as far as gameplay goes.

Too true, and even the boys at screamscape are sceptical about the aussie part of the rumour. I could very easily make mention of something in an email to screamscape and get them to report it. Screamscape is reliable, but if he says he is sceptical, it usually means it isn't something he believes or has verified. It's a little like wikipedia when it comes to that part. I like the mention there about ThemeParkNewsDirect launching their new videos section of rides "around the world". Featuring contributions from two people - Cadboy's videos of dreamworld and movieworld, and Zano's videos of two international coasters. - Some great viewing to be had there of parks "around the world".

From what we can see of these pics, it will be a simple turnaround, with a bit of a dip \ climb in that rockery area. It will be simple, but the speed of the turnaround (straight off the launch rail) should be adequate thrill enough without any other elements. Yes well - the last promotional photo had Corkscrew track on it - and we all picked that in a heartbeat - at least this is the same colour - it would be pretty obvious to guests if they're looking at a billboard of the ride, and it had white track, and the ride in front of them was clearly blue. As we all know - WVTP people do read the boards, and I think we can all rest smugly in the fact that that little detail, while small, was picked up here first. It does seem abbreviated, but for the cost of the ride, lets consider - 1. First coaster in seaworld in years. 2. Element of difference to standard sit-down coasters, which we have had a bucket load of. 3. Multi-launched, which, unless you count scooby, hasn't happened in Aus before. 4. It is a family coaster, so we don't want to be having kids terrified for more than two minutes at a time. 5. While I do hope it isn't SLOW, the family element, and the call for two launches tells me the speed might not be "superman fast". If they can give it a decent theme, and a decent story behind it, it would stretch it out a little to make it worthwhile. They could even "stop" on the second launch, to extend the story, and make the ride experience a little longer. My guess is it is a tight little squeeze between that part of track and the show building for bermuda, and heavy machinery will need to go in there to get over the dirt mount on the next turn. There are little mounds of dirt piled up that aren't from construction, so that would indicate to me the start of theming, rockery and the like. I'm not sure if thats what you were referring to before gazza? I do hope they're going to be doing something with the surrounds, to hide all the buildings and maintenance accesses there are around there. Has anyone given thought to the layout of the station? My guess is access will come from corkscrews viewing area side, but the access from bermuda would be good too. Looking at construction, I'm thinking it is going to have to be bridged over, and step down into the station like viking or bermuda. On the layout of the station, with the exception of the final turn, the whole ride could be just awesome if the turn we are referring to as turn 1 - the one yet to be completed (or the last one to be completed) were actually the LAST turn, big sweeping turn before the station, I think it would have been better - in otherwords reverse the direction of the train. Thoughts? (and yes I know the brake run would need to be changed, and the L turn the brake run is on would need to change) Other than that I can see a quality coaster going on here, and cannot wait to see the level of theming WVTP put into this one. Hopefully, they live up to the standard of their animal exhibits, and other rides (ex-corkscrew), which all have a level of "real-life" theming that is unmatched. (Yes - Movie world has great theming, but as it isn't "Real life" theming - its all movies and make believe - they have additional license that you couldn't get away with in sea world.)

I think all of these improvements sound great. It's good to see the continued commitment you have to Parks \ R-C \ TT Richard, and i'm sure we're all very thankful for your ongoing efforts to give us the best that we can have. My only concern with the ordering of the gallery pages. I realise the posting of a link to the gallery page will break the link as time goes on, but when viewing images, I don't want to have to page through all the old pages to get to the new stuff if it hasn't been posted. My thoughts here in the links to the gallery page itself would be perhaps there could be two links to each gallery? One that links "view images of <attraction>" and "view newest images of <attraction>" so that there is a shortcut to the most recent images?

On the other hand, it saves them having to spend a lot of money on advertising, as Richard has said in another thread, this site is usually ranked in the top google results for many australian theme park \ tourism related searches. If someone went by Aussie world during construction, and googled "aussie world construction" to find out what they were up to, they should find this thread, and find out all the exciting things happening. I mean - I know that isn't the intention - the council plans are publicly available, and anyone has the ability to view them - thats just the nature of the council DA process - but it isn't necessarily something that WVTP would "hate" as the side effects of them being available to us are only beneficial. There would be no detriment - because trust me - Dreamworld would be looking at them well before we notice them. Funnily Enough - there are only 5 search results on that website - not six as Gazza pointed out - has it been removed? And to the mods - this isn't exactly "breaking news" anymore - any chance of a topic name alteration? ***Edit*** Ok - so its the fifth search result, and then when you OPEN it - its Attachment B is the sixth one down. I guess those plans answer our questions about their ability to handle the additional parking requirements - looks a lot better planned than WnW ***Further Edit*** Looking at the plans, it looks good. 9 starting attractions, all with large capacity, and an additional 4.5 attractions (1 is add-ons for an existing attraction, and delivers more capacity, but no difference, and one is a roof over an existing set of attractions to make it "indoor". It also appears as though there are a number of Aussie World attractions staying on - the "3D" view of the artists impression shows a ferris wheel, and a few other attractions which could be the existing rides of AW

Well, to answer your question, one needs to simply understand a little more about pre-fab or pre-cast concrete walls such as the ones at MW - In most cases, where there is any danger in the walls falling over, a simple set up like this is employed.

The similarities that lead to the name rice burner is basically any vehicle of a diminuitive size that comes from an asian country, as opposed to good old Australian muscle. Mitsubishi, Nissan, that sort of thing. Having said that, Aussie muscle has no place in a stunt show themed around how they achieve the stunts that they do in movies - even the movies shot in Aus use a great percentage of imported cars - Ford Crown Vics, and the like, so in actual fact, a lot of the police academy cop cars would be appropriate vehicles - as the Crown Victoria is frequently bingled and smashed in car chases on the silver screen.

I'm sure i've said it before, but Ian's photo updates always used to be very serious and clinical... what is in the water down at WVTP?

Blockwise i think the only consideration here is the first launch may be the station - cancelling out one of the blocks you counted flea. By the way - your High School video was enjoyable.

Such a pity the topic begins talking about the anticipation of summer, and yet the caption photo is dark and overcast. I'm not criticising, but we'll have to get a photo with a sunnier disposition. Good article Gazza. Can't wait to see it up close.

Ok - so I know Disney isn't ACTUALLY planning it - but it popped up on my news radar and I thought it funny enough to post up here: Disney Venice - News.com.au

Looking at the pics, it would seem very similar to the tornado without a roof? Clint - what did you mean by large vessel landed direct from scandinavia - do tell - sounds like something we would like to know about...

If the no limits creation represents the first section - its going to be really boring - launch, do a u-turn, and then another launch. I'm hoping theres more to it than that. The theming possibilities are endless. Simple landscaping similar to shark bay would be perfect, but more complex "enclosed" landscaping would absolutely make the ride. There needs to be water here - Jetski's don't really come off on land like motorcycles do (although when was the last time you saw a yellow road for a motorcycle - at least the track here is blue). My only concern for the water element is that it is going to hurt the coaster over time - and like SurfRider - have to be switched off (or if water restrictions kick back in - same again). It really doesn't look like its going to be long enough. Family coaster - ok no problems - reptar is only 30 - 45 seconds, but still it would have been nicer to have a longer experience. I still hate those mounting points between track and footer - but i suppose where you can keep costs down you can buy more coasters quicker, so i'm not going to complain too much. Overall, I think we've got ourselves a nice little family coaster here that will have enough thrill element, and enough gimmick to pull the punters. The coaster itself will be good enough - thats my call, and i'll put money on that one - but my only concern is how well they're going to pull off the theming. If its themed like bermuda, or superman, or batman, or scooby - then well done Warner Village and way to stick it to the man - but if its something like MDMC or SurfRider - a few rocks, and a few plants, with maybe a pond at the bottom of the gulley - it's going to be a disappointment. Make it more like the photo in the myfun mailout, and i'll be happy.