Levithian

A lot of the not working/out of sync issues seem to be related to stoppages during the ride i think. Ive been on before where we actually stopped in the ride near superman for about a minute and just had to wait for some reason. Couldn't shoot anything from there on, with the last staro projector actually being blank. Rode it again later in the day and it was fine with no hold ups and everything worked.

channel 7 seem to be worse than 9 and abc in hounding them?

You wont build one for that sort of money thats both the rumoured height and the length of this coaster. It would still cost closer to 30 million US.

25 million seems pretty short on the cost i reckon. If be guessing closer to (or above) 40,000,000 as a nice round number to put on it.

In the scheme of things, maybe 3 break downs is probably a little less than normal. You cant really call stoppages breakdowns because some rides require evacuations anytime an emergency stop occurs. They cant just start it up without moving people off the ride. Might be a quick 2 minute fix to actually get going, but moving everyone off turns it into a 30 minute + prospect. Prior to arkham asylum, when was the last time something stopped and remained closed for repairs? I remember batwing having issues before christmas, anything else?

I don't think it works that way. For starters, any agreement is based off the original concept, so if you go ahead and make changes, it probably wouldn't be covered and a new one would probably need to be agreed upon. The ride has been around for quite some time now, so the original holders might not exist given all the mergers, so I wouldn't be surprised if someone wants another great chunk of money to see it reimaged. Even if the same company did own the rights, everyone has to make money. If you don't think theme parks have to pay rights for image usage and merchandising, etc to production companies that may hold the rights to the product, even if they may come under the same group of companies, then I reckon you would be mistaken. Everyone would still have to get their share. We have already seen that media publishing rights and property rights for usage in theme parks aren't mutually exclusive. So you can't assume that just because companies are linked together for distributorship rights, that they will be able to use their brand elsewhere outside of the production/distribution deal. Merchandising especially is such a big deal, given the cost vs markup on the products. I wouldn't be surprised at all if you are talking millions of dollars per year for a deal when it comes to big name/big exposure property and nobody is going to hand that out for free.

It's gutted, maybe even more to come if they only opened it in the holidays to ease congestion on other rides. So anything that is changed and revamped will probably need a new agreement with whoever has the rights to the property. I wasn't suggesting it because scooby is dead, I was suggesting it as a way that you could use a lot of the existing theme work, update the ride to something new AND avoid having to pay licencing fees. Money saved could be used in the retheme to create an even better experience. Honestly, even if scooby brand isn't dead, a revamped attraction is going to be a bigger draw card and more incentive for the park to spend the money. The problem is, I can't really think of any other franchise that's as well known that could translate to the coaster. So I started thinking what if you drop the franchise and just stick with a well known theme, a haunted house/ghost train.

You could turn it into a pretty cool haunted house/ghost train ride without needing to change the cars or the castle entrance.

Doesn't that include the whole company though? across many divisions? So there could be a mass shortage of corn kernels driving up the cost of pop corn overnight, which might hurt their cinema division and the share price could drop.

The thing you ought to be worried about with automated cars is they have to be designed to kill people. Not only that, they have to be programmed to be selective too.

You can see the platform being used in the footage/photos. I think the fire service only evacuated a small number of people.

I dont think you can actively comment about the reason or cause unless it has actually been established. In the trial by media, it would be seen as essentially lying and you would be crucified if you get it wrong. Not only would you look stupid, but it would look like you are trying to cover something up or brush aside the incident like it was nothing. That would generate a whole bunch of fear and anger in people, especially the ones that were evacuated. He seemed to give out some info about a possible cause in his (and the parks) statement, but also made it clear that it takes time to investigate and no definitive cause is known at present. Thats pretty informative, it sounds like the truth given the train was still stuck up the lift hill yesterday afternoon. Not sure if you watched reports before you posted? Im not sure what more could be said in regards to operational issues/causes.

Ive tried a few of the new sandwiches in the deli and id have to rate it as excellent food. Its fresh, tasty and its fairly well priced considering the serving size.

Footage shows they werent upside down, they were going up the lift hill at the start.

Hah. Same reason for green lantern stopping? Isn't it pretty much just the standard reply for anything causing a ride stoppage now?

they do have an indoors one too though don't they? only depends on how big a set they need.

Yeah, because we kept seeing the ride actually run at various times, that made more sense to me than there being a major problem with a big/major component/part which a few other people were wondering. Seemed a lot more like a trial and error sort of deal, than having the whole ride grounded indefinately

I can't see them ripping up the gold coast highway to continue to tram to the airport when it was planned by state/federal government for the railway already. The last piece of the puzzle has been purchased to allow it to continue past reedy creek/varsity lakes now, plus they have already started the track works for dual tracks in the northern end of the coast to allow for proper express services, so I can see the train becoming a reality over the g-link.

He's asking because there is another VR install where you target and shoot things using buttons like that. They are just harness release buttons on arkham asylum.

I think you are supposed to hold the harness anyway, but, no, there is nothing linked with the harness release buttons when I rode it.

Pretty sure they usually keep selling parts too, so thats a big part of the business. I wouldn't be surprised if they charge fees for some sort of service plan too. Like, if you want support after what ever period is offered in the sale of the ride, you have to pay for it. Especially with how technical rides are getting, you'd have to be making money being able to connect remotely to ride systems and upgrade/repair/monitor controls, systems, etc.

Might have issues with it drifting into the station if there are no walls.

It's pretty much professional suicide to close something during the busiest time of the year. I reckon it is pretty safe to say that what ever the reasons for the recent rides being closed outside of maintenance periods, it would have to be something critical to force the closure of them. If they could operate, you would be running them, so you can hardly blame the park for keeping rides closed. There are probably lots of components/problems that could be repaired locally and/or by staff, and given they have been seen to be testing doomsday a number of times during the closure, I'd say there is more than just a casual issue wrong for the date to keep getting pushed back. If they were waiting for more parts, maybe they manufacturer had an issue with supply or something, or maybe they have had problems with components when they have arrived. You can get stuff air freighted around the world pretty quickly these days, so its not like you would expect them to have to wait months for something to arrive via sea. Anyone been to the park lately and seen what might be removed/deconstructed? might point to what sort of problem they are having.

You can never be too safe. It's as simple as that. It's in reaction to the previous post. Where it comes into it is risk analysis. Reducing the chance of failure/incident to such a small degree that it either 1) becomes virtually impossible to calculate/factor/comprehend or, 2) becomes completely cost prohibitive to implement a control above expected/acceptable risk. It's the primary reason for multiple redundancy systems, sometimes even greater than what something might have been produced with.

Im not saying you can't be too safe, what I am saying, is that this is probably one industry that already does most of what people suggest. you can't really compare movieworld and dreamworld now. Completely different scenarios. For starters, i remember reading that movieworld already had independent auditors planned/checking their park before the incident, and before worksafe people came in. If you were to try to compare them, you would probably want to compare the outcomes following the green lantern accident, vs this one and see if there were any changes to operations. I don't think anything like that was probably made public though because, fortunately, nobody died, so there probably isn't a public inquest made available like what might follow after dreamworlds accident. Although there is a level of genuine concern in their media statements, you also have to appreciate that it's also worded as a PR exercise with the intention of rebuilding their brand and calming any fears guests might have. How many of the independent audits, contractors, etc are already performed each year, and how many extra have been added since the incident? Like, you could have had a yearly audit planned each year, then had an external auditor check the audit to make sure nothing was missed. So it happens each year anyway but nobody outside of the industry knew about it, so the average person may think they are really going above and beyond, when such stringent tests were already the industry standard. Get what im trying to say? It's kind of like its not doing the parks justice when you suggest they have probably found things from more stringent testing and inspections, when in reality, operation/inspection standards are already so high that what people suggest they should/are doing is probably the absolute minimum that is performed every year as it is. That's what I am trying to say.