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  1. joz
    Quite a lot of beer too! It's $250 worth of f&b sales to get your money back. If you're with a decently big family you can pretty much do that in 4 transactions. Don't think 'Families' are really the target market.
  2. joz
    Oh you know what, I thought it was a subscription. Yeah there are times in my life where I'd throw $25 with zero expectation just to see
  3. joz
    I think people just kind of like being mad at MW. Only they could add 3 coasters with a whole themed land, filling a niche that's needed filling for ages (more/better small and midsized rides) and still have people calling them lazy with a straight face. It seems to me that what Gumbuya and MW are doing with themeing is very different too, so I don't think they'll be that similar in experience despite the same layout. I think ride mix comes into it though, and a ride that would be a massive game changer at one park would be filler at another. Put a Boomerang into a low tier park like Aussie World or LPM and you've got an absolute game changer headliner on your hands. Put it in at MW or even DW? Big meh. It's not going to be a headliner, it's pure filler and while capacity is handy, it's not going to motivate anyone to go. They're only headliners at your smaller 'lesser' parks (And anyone who says 'What about Wonderland', I'm sorry you had to find out what calibre of park Wonderland actually was this way). Something like Buzzsaw/Zero G is a big ride at Gumbuya in a way that it just isn't at DW. I still think they should have hung on to it for a couple more years as filler, but I don't think it was ever a great 'fit' for DW, so aside from the filler aspect losing it wasn't a big deal. At Gumbuya it gets to be the headliner. It's a big ride in a small park. Does it make me want to go there? Not really. If you're from Vic and don't get to go to the Coast would it be a big deal? Absolutely! For Victorians if it lasts long enough, it becomes a rite of passage/coming of age sort of ride.
  4. joz
    Good enough for me! Have a wonderful day everyone (like not even being sarcastic, ACTUALLY have a good day. Locking this thread is my gift for you so you can go out and enjoy the sunshine) 😊
  5. joz
    Is there anything else to be said here or can I shut this shit show down?
  6. joz
    Yeah look maybe I'm old and I don't 'get it' but I can't imagine even as a kid being into this stuff. Hope those that get it enjoy it, but it's really not for me.
  7. joz
    Aw man you were so close! I had really high hopes for you there! Better luck next go around 🙂 I mean I think that's a pretty mild assessment, but also it having been deleted is a clue.
  8. joz
    Yeah, you're getting very close to understanding point: There may be a few people whose visit was motivated by riding a new ride (who it should be pointed out, did get to ride), but EVEN if you didn't visit with that expectations, once you see the ride open, and your queueing, the original motivation for your visit is out the window. To them, it's just 'open', no A frames will make it ok to queueing and not ride.
  9. joz
    And there it is, you're going for personal attacks and baseless assumptions. Maybe you should slow down posting a little bit
  10. joz
    People will still queue. Maybe not as many, but I can guarantee people would still form a queue.
  11. joz
    What they spontaneously got in the car and drove up after seeing an ad? Also it is open, if they were there on opening day, and they wanted to, they would have got a ride. About 1000 other people did, many of which did so after closing as they ran it till everyone that wanted to ride, did ride. I'd suggest you read all my comments before you reply to me specifically. I'm talking about people who see the ride open randomly, who then queue.
  12. joz
    But what if they queued for an hour only to be turned away? Which is what people are saying happened. Would the A frame and opening date make the problem go away?
  13. joz
    How many of those do you think there are? If it's more than 2 I'd be totally shocked. The 'travelled for opening day' is a made up genre of a person that you just don't get.
  14. joz
    I'm aware of what a soft opening is. My point is that if you do a soft open, and guests on that day see that the ride is open, from their point of view, that's it, it's open. They will not care about official opening dates or A frames, they will be pissed when the ride breaks down. Soft opening might placate a few, but the guests that people are acting like who this is all about, the casual day guest, won't be placated.
  15. joz
    Again, the whole post started with... 'I'm all for soft openings...' In other words I agree, but once the ride is open for the day, it's open, and people will absolutely piss and moan if it's unreliable or breaks down once they see it's open.
  16. joz
    I'm all for soft openings (not passholder previews), but I don't think Brad's point can be over stated enough. 'Grrr the ride is closed!' 'Did you read the A frame' 'Oh OK I'm happy now!' - No guest interaction ever.
  17. joz
    Far out like its closed like 4 times and it's only opened once
  18. joz
    Soft open is open. It's just a way of saying 'manage your expectations' as people aren't able to. As demonstrated in this thread. Yeah it sucks, I get it's dissapointing, but there seems like a real lot of vitriol on here. Like it's intentionally done to fuck with you rather than just an unfortunate thing. Because people will queue even if you ask them not to. May as well put them where they're meant to queue, particularly if you honestly think you will have the ride handed over imminently. Do you really think you've made a good point here?
  19. joz
    Oh yes, I see where it says it will be free for passholders 😬 TBH as much as I'm sure they've probably said this to be true, I really don't expect them to know or commit to a rigid pricing structure this far out. It's more than a year out, it's the spitballing phase.
  20. joz
    Again the thing about Claw is it's quite popular generally, it's in exactly the right spot, and it isn't giving away your new hotness for very little. Also it gets people more used to going on rides at DW again. It's like 'OK, come to DW, don't even have to go on any rides if that's something you're worried about'. 'Oh you're here now, how about this old friend?'. Make it $20 for an all night pass so people go on a few times, you get some extra atmosphere in the place, you are doing something no other trendy market can do which may attract more people, and you're making money while doing some repair work to the reputation. Just seems so obvious to me.
  21. joz
    I've said it before and I'll say it again, Claw for $5/$10 makes a lot of sense
  22. joz
    For me it was just the audio that needs work. I like that it's a lot less produced and just seems more genuine than the traditional soulless marketing. It's an amusement park, it's OK to have some personality
  23. joz
    Yeah my point is people read too much into it. My post was in response to people who were acting like kids would accidentally ride a big thrill based off of a couple words on the website that no one really reads anyway. Still the height requirement is low enough that you will get quite young kids riding it. It will be the first 'big' coaster for many, Max thrill level family coaster is more than appropriate, but it literally doesn't matter. While that's true, I feel like it kind of misses the whole picture.
  24. joz
    Oh that's good! Because apparently people were going to go, see a massive roller coaster going very fast and very high, and accidentally end up taking small kids on who weren't ready because the website said it was a family ride. 'The website says it's a family ride, so you WILL ride it!' while they whip their kids towards the entrance.
  25. joz
    The year MDMC opened, it came second last in the Mitch Hawker poll, long missed and often regarded as the most accurate list of the best coasters; if that's even a thing you can definitively do. That poll was much more than 'Fav roller coaster', as you had to list all the rides you'd been on ranked in order of best to worst, and all the rankings were then compared to each other. So it wasn't just 'the least people said it was their fav', lots of people had to rank it lower than pretty much all other rides to get that rank. HOWEVER, in MDMC's limited defence, clones were grouped and people were asked to vote on their FAVOURITE version of clones, so the poor versions of cloned rides like SLCs or Boomerangs were more or less excluded, which may well have affected its ranking.
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