Baconjack

Like re using Lethal Weapon Chinatown alley? Most logical solution imo but it seems to be wishful thinking based on concept art. Before someone goes on about F&B needing the space for temporary storage there’s a many other areas to put these things that doesn’t necessitate using an area that was designed to be public access

To be fair they do have that sign printing machine they’ve made some good use out of

As mentioned by others I’d say most of the people visiting at this time of year have pre bought tickets prior to going up north. So they need to go within a span of usually a few days they don’t have unlimited time to visit the parks. Either way the problem is very manageable. It’s not by letting less people in but by improving what you do day to day to lower wait times. I like how in your post you used those quotes and missed this one: What excuses are there for these? There are about 6 months in the year village could use to complete train rebuilds and get them online for peak time. Back in the day both major coasters would run a 2 train service from Boxing Day to early feb, and allowed guests to do their own seatbelts rather having the 2 station attendants doing a whole train full of them. You’d figure if 2 of your majors were down at the busiest time of the year (with another being replaced) managers would figure out a way to churn through people an hour on each ride efficiently. That means training their staff based on how Universal does it, or by creating a culture that values efficiency.

There's bigger fish to fry at the park. Dreamworld only have so much money in the budget, I'd rather that money go towards a renovation of Motocoaster rather than re-opening a ride that's got 6 months left at most before it gets moved.

If that’s true then what is the point of making the effort to re open it then if it’s all going to get demo’d in a few months? Reckon we might see vintage cars closed until Rivertown opens

As pointed out by other people waiting more than 2 hours for tower of terror was normal 10 years ago. Same goes for Superman before Rivals got built

To be fair if scooby and green lantern was open the crowds would be much more dispersed. Everyone likes to rag on dreamworld for having a low ride count but at the moment down the road isn’t offering exactly a lot either, you have a major that’s going to be down until 2025 and another one that they struggle to keep open and isn’t open currently either. A giant line for doomsday is quite sad to look at really but that’s a consequence of poor planning. Would be just another summer school holidays day at movie world if both were open otherwise which is not good by any standard either. You can say “Oh village’s reputation will slide” and that’s a fair argument for locals but at the end of the day most visitors are interstate and will go to movie world anyway, or go to dreamworld as well. That’s why village can get away with this kind of stuff even if it means ripping people off, because they’re usually only visiting once a year at most.

Gold Coaster is no longer listed as down on the website so potentially given both share the same grid

Yeah in 10 years or so when it will most likely need it again hence why I said

Just to set some boundaries on which land is allocated to the main park (as per the recent zoning changes to the park), this would most likely rule out big brother & blue lagoon as they have been rezoned for mixed use. All said there's still 3 key spots around the park for development: Rocky hollow spot Trolls village/thunderbolt/flowrider spot Wipeout/chill out zone spot And there's also a few rides reaching end of life in the next 10 years (gold coaster, gingys gliders, potentially claw & giant drop) and a ride in need of change (motocoaster) With all this considered here's what I would say for each spot (in no particular order except for the last bit) Family ride on the rocky hollow spot - a water coaster that's more flume than coaster (think journey to atlantis) would be really nice here as any water rides in the future need to be differentiated enough from thunder river to avoid comparisons (but that goes without saying) Major coaster in the trolls village/thunderbolt/flowrider combined plot of land. Call it thunderbolt 2 if you want it to, would love to see a small scale dive coaster on that site (think dr diabolical's cliffhanger or iron menace), Australian first, crowd pleaser, within dreamworld's budget (as of late) and ultra reliable. Ticks just about every box and worth the price tag Gold coaster inevitably removed and used for WWW. I'd say it's probably got 10 years max left in it. The land it sits on is prime real estate for WWW expansion, could easily fit a lazy river in there as that's the only gap really left in that lineup. All said though you could easily put the dive coaster in this spot & put the lazy river in the thunderbolt plot if you wanted to properly flesh out WWW (as was planned several years ago) Flat on the wipeout spot - i like the idea of the nebulaz. Would love a screaming swing in australia but is not happening in that spot because of clearance issues re: claw and tailspin Motocoaster renovation to integrate it into rivertown - we'll probably see this sooner rather than later I think they just need to see how such a project fits into the budget. For later down the track - Giant Drop is approaching 30 years old and Claw is nearly 20 years old. Dreamworld should be realistically throwing money at Giant Drop if they need to in 10 years as it is their one prestige attraction. If that necessitates removing the old ride system and building another one on the same tower - then so be it (they've already done the numbers for a falcon's fury conversion so it's possible). Realistically Claw has about 10 years left in it, I think this is a straightforward like-for-like replacement with a new generation gyro swing (such as Goliath at adventure world). Further gingy's gliders will need to be replaced by then, so use the opportunity while it's gone to rip out the tower station and expand dreamland.

Will explain again: Sky voyager - delayed multiple times and opened nine months after expected timeline Steel taipan - delayed and opened a year after expected timeline (You could blame Covid for this one but no one was for New Atlantis) Giant Drop renovation - delayed a few times (from memory was meant to be completed end of 2022 could be wrong though) Years is a bit of a stretch from me but the point still stands regardless. If we’re taking the piss out of village for failing to stick to timelines (rightfully so) then it’s only fair to point out this is standard practice for parks on the coast even if we finally got some rides open on time for once.

"Past few" Yeah sure two of their biggest post-2016 additions have been delivered years after their original opening timeline. This isn't even discounting stuff like giant drop's renovation which was pushed back consistently as well. Bit of a recency bias showing here.

Can’t they not build at that height? I was under the impression that sea world has to build things within a stricter limit (whatever council mandates for the spit)

Haven’t visited but it and Japan are the first countries on my list when I’ve got enough money to travel. Something I would mention is that if you want to visit Everland I’d advise travelling later on in the year as their major coaster (t express) is allegedly going to be down until April/May

You’d think maybe a drain in that section of the queue which collects water and recycles it on the water jets would reduce water costs & eliminate this problem entirely?

After their last ride they built for them came within a bees dick of killing people I highly doubt Village would buy anything from S&S again

And a tiny one at that. The process of commissioning the ride would probably take longer than the construction itself

Why even lol if you’re going to turn the lights on surely it’s not that difficult to jump on a computer and change the setting to make it light blue or something. These rides have programmable led’s, Luna park’s one is set to be all one colour to fit the vibe correctly. They really should be setting stuff like this up now with a few weeks until opening

Ssshhh people hate the existence of Dc at mw

That’s correct but you’d figure given it’s a local brand and very in at the moment you’d be more than keen to get them on board. Dreamworld has spent plenty of money for licenses before look at Dreamworks and Nickelodeon before that. Plus with bluey you could have integrated that with the existing ABC kids land or developed something totally new. Instead dreamworld renewed its deal with the wiggles rather than going after bluey. Not a bad choice at all and better than nothing but it doesnt take a genius to figure out that bluey would have been a far better ip to drive gate numbers. Though they could certainly add it in the future given there’s the tower station sitting behind that area which can be cleared for an expansion down the track

Giving road runner “love” is putting it very lightly they bought new trains, ripped out a third of the rockwork and replaced the cool old sign with a boring 2d one straight from their sign printing machine. Apart from doing that (which nerfs the ride and doesn’t improve it) adding Marvin & driving school and getting rid of the hut what else have they done to that land? It’s been 15 years (and even longer for most of it given how much of the land was built in the 90s) I would flatten that section bar road runner & Marvin and start again from scratch. Bring back the looney tunes village name, get rid of junior driving school and put an air conditioned dark ride back in that building, put speedy Gonzales out of his misery & the other rides in that left section that are quickly approaching 30 years old, then start over again

Now imagine if dreamworld decided to sign a nice little exclusivity deal to put bluey in that new freshly relocated ABC kids section they have instead of the wiggles

“It’s a kids area” is not a valid excuse to explain away abject laziness because there’s no longer licensing standards that the park is bound to. People will walk past that ocean parade section to get to serpent slayer & tiger island it’s not just kids. Neither is the “not Disney” excuse our parks in the 90’s did what Disney could for half the price. I suppose Nickelodeon Land doesn’t exist either and you’ve conveniently forgotten that

Two of the three rides I mentioned have already been replaced (indirectly but that’s beside the point) Thunderbolt - gold coaster (if punters on Facebook think that despite them running next to each other for a couple of years then that is what goes) Tower - Taipan Wipeout - chairs, yeah you get the point on that one. Obviously you’d avoid thunder river (or anything in gold rush country for that matter) with a 10 foot pole but that goes without saying. It’s a good opportunity to make some extra cash though you’re not spending much to make shirts. Though the case is strong especially when the current batch of investments are complete and there’s not so much of a gap in the lineup anymore. If dreamworld is happy to change their logo back to the 80s one then I think they’d be happy to make some thunderbolt shirts.

Yeah I certainly didn’t imply the safety part. Anyone would have done what current management are doing, I mean the operations of old management really speaks for itself - I’m not looking at it from a day-to-day operations point of view but rather from a presentation and capex allocation point of view. Even old management would sprinkle in some minimal theming - look at tail spin & hot wheels as examples. How are they any different to let’s say giant drop & taipan. It’s inoffensive sure but is still quite boring, this is a theme park, not taronga zoo. It’s almost the polar opposite of what’s on offer at the spit (although general upkeep is a different story entirely) Also the budget argument is a perfectly valid point - dreamworld are spending most of the cash on Rivertown- but give me a cohesive land over an extra flat or 2 any day of the week. New rides can be added later on in a stage 2 - but you need a good foundation first before adding new stuff (and not the other way around) which is what this refresh should have been but unfortunately misses the mark in that regard slightly..