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Here's a video I shot earlier in the year that'll give you a glimpse into what a daily routine is like at Tiger Island - Here's the thing - i'd put my name behind Tiger Island - the team there live & breathe those cats, and i've spent enough time back of house there doing film work and whatnot to really vouch for the quality of care they all receive. And that's backed by the fact that they're also the biggest contributor to conserving wild tigers anywhere in the world - seriously, no one gives more shits than the team there. The problem here, at least in my mind, is the same thing that happens when people are faced with the harsh reality of where their meat products come from - turning livestock into tasty steaks has a few real world realities people forget about, just like how there's real world realities in keeping endangered, wild apex animals in captivity for the purposes of conservation, breeding & education. The only way you keep a species that's typically not a pack animal in captivity is by spending a lot of time and attention on ensuring boundaries and checks are established with those animals, and this video that's gone viral is the reality of what happens when large predators want to test those boundaries and checks. Let's be also really clear, there's no punching here, and it's absolutely not like pulling your cat's tail, but people are clearly imposing those ideas onto this situation because the reality is these tigers look just as cute and cuddly as the domesticated counterparts, despite the fact that they'd rip each other and the handlers into shreds given half the chance. The simple reality is, their tails are far, far stronger than your everyday cat, and the studied & documented way to re-enforce large cat behaviour (that's sanctioned by both RSCPA and many zoo-oligical societies) is 100% what these handlers did. Again, saying you can't hit your kids and thus they shouldn't hit the tigers is ludicrous. They're not hitting or punching the tigers for one, they're tapping them on the nose (as do other cats), and let's not forget that unlike your kid, big predators don't understand logic and reason or cause and effect, so the kind of rationale that you can somehow talk to wild animals and they'll listen like your just like your kids is bafflingly out of touch with reality. Guys, they're wild animals, and they are treated as such. You'd make Dreamworld wrong if they didn't and they hurt someone or hurt another tiger. People freaked when a tiger in a Chinese zoo mauled a live animal, something that happens in the wild. Where's the line? You want tigers in the wild but somehow you want the problem of them being poached to magically solve itself? Lemme guess, you want no tigers at all in captivity but don't have an alternative to preserving numbers? This is the best solution we've got, and thanks to Dreamworld & Tiger Island, it bloody works, and their efforts should be applauded, not condemned.3 points
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Dreamworld social are probably done with everyones shit on social media today2 points
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It's clear that they're trying to separate one cat from another. The one corrected was clearly moving up into the blindspot of the other. It's stalking behaviour. I have dogs and a cat that do the same thing to each other constantly. These guys spend a lot of time with the cats. They have a huge bond to be able to walk around in an enclosure with several of them without much fear (although there have been incidents). The last thing they want is a bully stalking a cat they don't particularly get along with, with a savage brawl ensuing - resulting in severe injuries, and possibly death of one of these great cats. I haven't read anything other than this thread, and watched the video. This is not abuse. This is correction behaviour to prevent a worse situation. ... And now i've read the article posted on Parkz with the statement from Dreamworld - and it's pretty much the above. Media need a good flogging.2 points
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It’s a good thing then that Disney’s queue lines are more entertaining than some of our rides here2 points
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Dreamworld responds to Tiger Island footage As social media and media outlets decry interactions at Dreamworld's Tiger Island, the theme park responded swiftly to refute baseless allegations of animal abuse. Click here to continue reading1 point
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Totally had to steal this... (Thanks for the laughs TPSN) ”Major work is happening at the Log Ride area who’s excited” accompanied by this photo which certainly well depicts this major work being undertaken1 point
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Why do theme park enthusiasts think they are better than anybody else? I’ve see people from this site laughing at DW predicament and I’ve seen other people like the co-host of Park Chat Live calling people potato heads on DW Facebook site. I haven’t seen one person besides Alexb construct a reasonable argument on DW Facebook page. It’s embarrassing as a community that we act like this. The parks must really laugh at us. If you don’t know how tigers should be looked after and let’s face it, most of us don’t (including me) than we should keep our mouths shut. Just because it’s happens in a theme park doesn’t suddenly make us an expert on tigers.1 point
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Good on Dreamworld for firmly correcting that idiot, although it's a shame they can't correct them the same way the tiger handlers correct the tigers as that would probably work better for someone that thick!1 point
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The ground level is essentially a typical driving range aimed at hardcore golfers. This is definitely a significant part of the market for Topgolf despite the attraction being about much more. I think there is validity to questions about its location. Look at Topgolf in the USA: locations in tourist towns like Las Vegas or Orlando are reasonably close to the main strip. 5-10 minute Uber/Taxi from most hotels. Then look at other cities, where the Topgolf audience is more corporate. They are built away from the CBD where land is cheaper, but the difference is most USA cities have significantly better highway systems. I have every hope that it'll be successful but getting folks there is definitely going to be a challenge: Theme park guests are tired at the end of the day. It's not an easy trip there and back for tourist staying at Surfers. It's not an easy proposition for after-work drinks. I see it being quite lucrative with conferences that can bus guests out and back for a night of drinks. I think it'll work with a certain type of locals too but at $35 million it is very clearly banking on being a tourist attraction.1 point
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Yeah, let’s put our logic hats on for a second and simply ponder this thought... “how many several hundred kilo wild apex predators respond appropriately or positively to the same behaviour re-inforcers as our domesticated animals?” Itd be a concern if they were punching them all day every day, but that’s not what’s happening here, it’s at best a solid tap on the nose to re-inforce good and bad behaviours. Just because they’re cute and cuddly doesn’t mean they’d have a crack at you given half a chance, and I guarantee you had this person asked instead of trying to create a viral piece, the handlers would share what’s going on (like they do every, single, day.)1 point
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Fair enough, my lack of knowledge on what it actually will be is probably got me thinking the wrong way.1 point
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TP is not a glorified driving range. Nobody is going here to practice their golf swing.1 point
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I think Top Golf will be fun, I have no interest in normal golf but Top Golf looks entertaining. I'm not complaining about more attractions in any case, the more the merrier!1 point
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I should mention when they offer the fast track pass it’s for any ride of your choice, not just for JL. We honestly didn’t care that much were just curious about what happened, the ride op told us if we went to Guest services we could get a fast pass, so thought we might as well - we got it for Scooby and saved over 1 hour in line.1 point
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Wasn’t aware of Marks background at Merlin, but from what I can see (LinkedIn) it was as a commercial director for 2 merlin parks. Again, I’m not sure if that is the same skill set required for CEO of an international, multi-focused company - but hey, what do I know! The last 3 CEOs haven’t been all they were cracked up to be!1 point
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Hey all, Not sure if anyone has seen this Youtube Channel but its called Defunctland and it has some excellent videos on past attractions at Disney, Universal and Cedar Point. They are not overly long but are jam packed with great history and info. Thought you guys would be appreciative of the viewing. The below one is excellent and is on that infamous water park Action Park. Check it out: Also the videos about Disney's 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea attraction is recommended- I have always been interested in this ride and these videos do a fabulous job of explaining the history and the ultimate reasons for its eventual removal. Happy viewing- Enjoy!!1 point
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Log ride update that I stole. If you believe TPSN these are motors for the lift hill.0 points
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well Dc rivals was a success and movie world are pushing the boundries on this year but what will be in store next year? a flat ride. or thrill ride a new are/expansion a family coaster. it would be awesome if movie world could get an expansion but if thay did that please do a movie studio themed ride not Dc. wheres all the movie magic? lets hope that can happen again. I love Dc but its just taking over movie world.0 points
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