DaptoFunlandGuy

TBH - having ridden both without stupid surfboard backpacks, rash shirts etc, I can honestly say i've experienced no difference between the two rides.

I do love hearing your voice... but sadly my budget (free) can't afford time in your recording studio...

No problems Tim - I apologise - I wasn't aware of it. It makes a lot more sense now with your posts and as I recognise now its out of your control, i'm sure I can spend a minute or two more to to translate your posts without much bother. Cheers for letting me know. @Ryande16 You also need to consider conversion rates and different currencies. As Swarm and Oblivion are both constructed and quoted in the UK, i've used GBP as the base pricing. I've used historical rates and inflation calculators to work out the prices for all at the time of construction, and what they work out to be in today's dollars (based on a UK inflation calculator). Abyss was US$12M in 2013 (GBP7.4M). In today's dollars, it would be around US9.7M (GBP 7.49M) Swarm was US$28M in 2012 (GBP18M). In today's dollars, it would be around US$25M (GBP19.8M) Oblivion was US$20M in 1998 (GBP12M). In today's dollars it would be around US$25.5M (GBP19.68M) Bottom line is that whilst the actual price tags make them seem to be within reach of each other, the fact of the matter is that both rides are more than DOUBLE the 'current' pricetag of Abyss. TBH whilst we've seen AW make some real leaps and bounds - and Abyss was certainly pulled off well (for the budget) - I honestly don't think we'll see AW as the first Australian park to put in a B&M - much as i'm sure @Mark Shaw wants it to be. The other parks are much better placed to be able to afford one, and to be able to support the kind of attendance needed for a single investment to pay itself off.

So your poor review of the wedgie was actually just an admission of your own stupidity... since (for me and @pin142 at least) nobody seems to have any issue with it.

I dont.

I've assumed that you're taking the picture from roughly the 'blue star' in the below: I should think, given the thin treeline, that you're seeing the stacked containers in the back of the studio carpark (yellow), presumably used for storage, or to store the containers when not needed. The image above also shows the watertank when set up for bluescreen filming (red), and as you can see, from pretty much any angle you look at, the thickness of the trees means you probably wouldn't see it (although, i'm unclear exactly how much tree clearing has been done through there - those trees are all on the opposite side of the creek) This image is from September 2015. Latest image is from May 2016, and the tank does not have containers stacked at that time, but the carpark still is as it is shown in yellow above... practically identical, except more cars, and less trucks.

You missed two opportunities to capitalise <pun intended> on the AWesomeness of AW. I don't want to make a big noise of it Tim, but can you proof your posts a little better please? - a lot of them seem to have either auto correct issues, or completely misused words - for example in the above snip - want instead of won't and cheek instead of check. I do find your posts a little tricky to read sometimes because i'm struggling to work out which word you actually meant to use. As for theming, yes - slides can be heavily themed, and I find this is usually the case for a wet and dry park (i'm thinking about AW and Jamberoo here) where the park isn't a dry park with some slides, or a wet park with some dry rides, but a fusion of the two. Theming is an integral part of the experience across the park. I think what AW have put into improving these attractions is wonderful. Amazing even - definitely AWesome... and please don't think that what i'm about to say is in any way intended to say that AW shouldn't do these things, because they're great... but... When it comes to parks that set out to be 'just' a water park - thinking WnW or WWW, I don't think a heavy theme is needed. Some water parks do very elaborate themes, and those parks are amazing, but WnW, for example - doesn't pretend to be a themed area. They do have areas (extreme H2O zone for example), but for the most part the park is nicely landscaped... and thats it. It doesn't need to be any more than that to slide down a fibreglass chute into a pool. WWW set out to have an aussie \ beach theme, and they have some giant thongs, and some aussie throwback names for their slides (BRO was very well done IMO) but you don't need anything more than that. All I ask from a waterpark is to not have concrete hot enough to burn your feet, and to manage attractions in such a way that you don't spend an hour queueing in either baking sun or freezing wind before getting a 40 second (or less) ride.

Scapula - that tells me that you weren't holding your arms in the correct position. if they are properly crossed over your chest, your scapula should lay flat against the rest of your back. I couldn't find the link, but this is one of the reasons why body slides require you to cross your arms. I haven't yet attempted to take my little guy on rides, but I fully intend on a visit to guest services before I do. A ride card (DW) or wristband (VRTP) is marked by guest services with the rides a person can \ cannot go on. I would imagine they would do this for small children as well, but I could be wrong - having not attempted to do it myself yet. The band \ card then serves as an indicator to ride ops (especially those who may be inexperienced) of what guest services have determined is appropriate. Of course a ride operator has final say and if they believe the risk is unacceptable they have every right to stop you riding, but i would think these would at least help. The trip would also be beneficial to discover from guest services what rides they allow parent swap on, and how each one of them operates.

Well, they could always run the Alien experience whilst they develop their own motorcycle VR in house, and then relaunch it as MDMC II in a year's time...

I'm pretty sure the fire occurred late afternoon. the ride had already closed for the day when the fire was discovered, but as it was discovered quickly, I would suggest that it was only just after closing, meaning it could have been contributed to by a guest, by effects, or by maintenance. only real way to know would be to ask the park... but unlikely you'd get a candid answer out of them unless Greg did a AMA or something.

Considering you are riding Arkham Asylum: Shock Therapy I think they would have been nuts to have themed the starting point to anything but - especially with all the station themed that way, and the audio of Joker and Harley talking about how the shock therapy was about to begin.

Yes, Sadly it seems the Mick Doohan connection will remain, and i'm disappointed they've chosen what I imagine is a generic off the shelf VR system. I'm sure that the alien invasion VR is designed to fit onto any coaster and it just modifies the turns and twists to suit the ride it is on - so this won't be the only park in the world you can experience it. I think its a greatly missed opportunity that they did not theme the VR to motorcycles, but of course that would have meant designing the VR experience from the ground up - and when your competitor is just about the launch a similar experience, one does have to get it out as quickly or risk getting left behind. I'm not suggesting they're copying MW - i'm sure both parks have been working on these VR projects for some time, but like with most other things in both parks, comparisons will be made, and DW will once again be considered to have pulled it off half assed: Jet Rescue vs. MDMC Aqualoop vs. Wedgie etc.

How has anyone visiting MW not heard that annoying voiceover down mainstreet introducing village e-serve? the guy sounds like a real twat.

You should travel with people who have a better idea of their demographic. (For obvious reasons) your little guy is the complete opposite of the two of you which does make things hard. Pricing - not really anything to say there - VRTP does come out on top in that department. Time - depending on the time of year you're travelling, it is debatable whether you would knock DW off in a day - although your little guy's age means you're not restricted to school holidays, so factor that into your planning to maximise time. As for MW and WnW - Without a car it can be painful but not onerously so - if you're walking a pram and a backpack, the stroll over to WnW isn't too painful, but if you're lugging a little more stuff, take a taxi - it'll only be a couple bucks and still come in less than DW's tickets. I'm not saying this makes VRTP better than DW in the time department, but it minimises the impact. Rides - 0-3 is a big age difference here. if he's on the lower end, it probably won't matter what rides he does. If he's closer to the top end, it will. I would base your decision here more on what the two of you wish to do rather than what there is for him. For the most part it would more come down to what character themes there are for him to enjoy and what he is interested in \ what photos you want to look back on. That said - most of what you've missed out on at DW are flats which aren't that big a loss (and neither is buzzsaw) although I will admit TailSpin is an awesomely different experience. There are less in the VRTP stable that you've missed, but i think they are a better quality and worthy of your time. Shows \ Animals - Dreamworld's animal area are predominantly native australian animals, many of which are also available at Paradise country. If the weather is good you may find you'll spend a whole day at WnW in which case you can double up on MW and PC for the day which will give you much the same thing. The tigers are awesome, but Ti (though amazing with the new space) is akin to just another 'zoo' viewing area - depending on when they start the new show \ demonstrations - so the little guy is going to be watching tigers lounging around \ walking around not doing much. I think Sea World trumps them here - as there is a much larger diversity of animals, and further - you can get much closer to them \ see them do much more. I think Sea World is worthy of standing on its own in this regard. For me, my family fits your demographics perfectly - although my wife does sit a little higher in the thrill department and a little lower in the water attraction area. If I were interstate \ far away and planning a once-a-year or less trip to the theme parks, i'd be putting my eggs into the VRTP basket. I'd aim for a day at WnW, a day at SW, and a day spent doing MW and PC. DW do have a lot for everyone, and in one place, but with a 0-3 year old, I wouldn't count on getting the whole park nailed in a day, and finding time to stop, and chill would be ideal. Having the same (or more) experiences included in the VRTP parks (including PC) spread across several days would mean less of a rush to get through the park in the time available. Thats my $1.29 anyway. Thanks for the kind words @AllegroCrab. I agree with your sentiments and reinforces what I said over quality rather than quantity. On this point - it must be remembered (as I said above as have others) that VRTP are a FOUR park group. PC is the poor cousin, but it caters to the market looking for animal attractions that always look towards Dreamworld. Essentially the wildlife experience cancels out PC and vice versa, except in my opinion PC does it better. This then leaves the tigers standing alone against the entire Sea World contingent, which in my view - Sea World wins. Flat rides then are the only plus for Dreamworld, and whilst I regard many of them as solid attractions, they themselves would not be enough to sway me to the dark side... so to speak.

A quick google had me wondering what on earth Quantum Field Theory had to do with all this, but then i found urban dictionary.

Finally finished. A good read as always. Glad there was a happy ending.

I do understand where you're coming from @Theme Park Girl - but being told no, and then yes - what makes you think that didn't happen in other areas such as the statues, thereby making it perfectly acceptable? Perhaps if you went back to the statues and asked permission again you'd have received a different answer? You may not have initially told people off publicly - but you certainly had a private whinge about others who were posting things first, and this isn't the first time either. By all means make your own choice to post \ not post... but whether you do or don't - there's no need to make a big song and dance about how you're so fabulous because you're respecting your best mate Greg's wishes or whatever. Just do it. Or don't. And if someone else makes the opposite decision to you - tough luck. Whether that reflects on them later when the park decides to invite social media outlets to press calls and the like, who knows... but live with the choice you make without attempting to enforce that on others (as was done from Star Tours, if not this). Much as I'll be tempted, i'll not weigh into this discussion again* (unless I really REALLY feel like it)

I'm guessing we'll be back on his radar in a year or so...

I really dislike these 'fill in a form' things the parks have. Most people buy online - surely this information can be captured and transferred to the pass-printing system relatively easily.

I get reverb on almost every enclosed slide - all one has to do is shout loudly to hear the effect...

Ive said this elsewhere and i'll say it again here. If the park doesn't want people taking photos of shit. they cover it up - completely. Weeks ago they had bedsheets and such over the statues - now, nothing but a temporary fence \ hoarding, which is easily shot over \ around. Having been a photographer in a theme park selling licensed photos where people were not allowed to take their own, you make it almost impossible to police. TBH - By having staff 'on and off' trying to stop you taking pictures of various areas, all that does is create animosity - you see someone else take a photo and get away with it, and you want to as well, but then someone tells you you can't, when you clearly saw someone else do it seconds earlier? I think this 'respecting the park's wishes' thing is bullshit. GO back and read my thoughts on the confidentiality thread again if you need to hear it all again, but in short: ANYTHING VISIBLE TO MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC, EVEN IF OVER \ BEHIND A FENCE IS FAIR GAME. If the park came along and asked you not to take pictures of their new rollercoaster until opening day, would you? (Don't say its different because it isn't - its still 'respecting their wishes' - Unfortunately the park doesn't really get to determine whether someone takes a photo of something in a publicly accessible area. In todays modern media world - the picture can be on the internet before the staff member can get close enough to you to tell you to delete it - so if they want privacy - they need to cover their shit. End of story. TPG - You say to Skeet that it's ok that you took photos of the shop, even though you earlier had a video of someone telling you not to do it - yet you're up in arms about someone else posting photos of the back of house area, and point to a video proving that staff are asking people not to take photos of the statues. Did you stop to think perhaps that the same 'loophole' you've used to justify your pictures of the shop is perhaps the same one used by those who took pictures over the fence? #takealookatyourself #getagrip You've shot loads of images over these sorts of fences. But you aren't showing images of the statues over the fences because someone told you (at a PRIVATE TVC SHOOT) that they wanted them kept under wraps, and you think that should now apply to members of the general public who have been freely admitted into an area where you can clearly see whats behind the fence? #FFS

For the love of god, don't buy an intamin parachute tower if you want to class it 'maximum impact'. I rode one of these in toy story land, and it was a heck of a long process to load, and over extremely quickly. I'm sure the kids loved it. For me it was very yawn.

Usually you like to give your marketing people a heads up on things so they can start formulating a marketing strategy. You don't do that overnight. I'll weigh into the debate with my 80 cents. There has been a lot of discussion here about MW vs. DW. TBH - I don't think that is a fair comparison. It has been mentioned that DW offers families more - by having animals, and kids areas and such, and this has been pointed out where MW is lacking - but I don't think many of you realise the model VRTP have going. You cannot compare DW to MW. What you need to do is compare pass to pass. The VIP \ VRTP Membership vs. the World Pass. Both passes get you into all of the relevant company theme park property both offer a waterpark gate both offer high thrills both cater to families both offer various children's branded entertainment and themed areas both have animal experiences Once you broaden the comparison, those few areas where DW is regarded as 'better' suddenly lose a little shine. #MyOpinion

How then did it fail? either they debited the old, or the new - if both would have worked, how did it decline? Reserve bank...

i think old faithful, like most geysers on flumes and rapids have a 'winter' and a 'summer' setting - and are timed specifically to either just miss, or soak the boat. it could be that you always ride on the 'winter' setting, as i've personally been soaked by the geyser. (it doesn't have to be winter to be on the winter setting either). I'm not saying WWF has this setting, just going off experience with other similar rides.